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DZ
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Post #1 post 7th March 2006 - 06:20 PM
Well, a couple of years ago I would have laughed at the idea of Fords and Holdens becoming involved with drift. When a certain high powered Holden ute showed up at a DriftZone day I even argued with its owner that drift was for turbo cars, not V8's.

Roll forward to now and things have changed. SEVS/RAWS is making it harder every day to get anything new in from Japan. Ford has released the XR6T and Typhoon and even HSV is starting to concentrate on turbo cars.

Things change, drift is continuing to grow at a staggering rate in Australia and its time that we started making drift a part of Australian motorsport culture instead of just another Japanese copy. People want to be able to look out to the driveway at their production car and then see it on telly, or better yet, take it to the track themselves. This has always been the biggest appeal of drifting - its affordability for everyone to get out and give it a try. Of course a stock BA or SS isnt going to go up too well against Robbie or Jerome but neither would a stock Silvia or Skyline.

Now, finally getting to my point......
DriftZone wants Fords and Holdens. We want imports too, drifting is nothing without them and its where drifting started, but if drift is going to keep growing in Australia, we need to realise that Fords and Holdens have a place in drift as well.

To this end, DriftZone is in the VERY early stages of considering a Ford vs Holden drift challenge. MOTUL oils (one of our major supporters) has shown a great deal of interest in this and we're trying now to get some feedback from everyone.
I'm not talking about "Mr Blown Torana" coming out on his cheese-cutters and ripping a fuli sik skid, I'm talking about XR6's, XR8s, SS's, Clubsports, VL's, EA's etc. getting out on the track and really drifting. And if they cant drift, we'll have professionals on hand to teach them the difference between power oversteer out of a corner and drifting.

So, without turning this thread into a "V8 vs import" or "I hate Robbie" shit fight, we'd love to hear everyone idea's on this. Just make sure they're constructive or dont bother hitting "Submit".

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DAMDEVAN
Post #2

yeah about time....

get some more v8 action out there...

ps, robbie sux get rid of him and his drones
sandman_350
Post #3

to do what Tony or Robbie do it seams you just carnt do it in an import or others would be doing it . so i see it as a good thing to involve such huge horsepower cars . but however the visual appeal of those kitted up imports is awsum seeing the smooth drift lines they carry is first class , its good to see both styles of drift

HSV
Post #4

QUOTE(DAMDEVAN @ Mar 8 2006, 12:28 PM)
yeah about time....

get some more v8 action out there...

ps, robbie sux get rid of him and his drones
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Rightio........... get rid of one of the people who have put a lot of effort and time into making drift more recognizable to the general public. dry.gif

ShanO`
Post #5

I think its a good idea which might just work...

I have been to about 10 drift days (spectating) and was rather suprised with some of the aussie cars that were giving it a go. Sure their cars arent the greatest drift machines but i enjoy watching a large variety of cars giving it a go...

The best aussie car being drifted has been the blue and black BA xr8 work ute.

57ING
Post #6

I think its great, these cars are making the power to do it, why should anyone descriminate what kind of car it is, hey, if someone built up a Mighty Boy that could drift Im pretty sure everyone would love it.

Im behind bringing anyone into it, its good to spread the wings of the sport, good on you.

GTRVspec95
Post #7

QUOTE(DAMDEVAN @ Mar 8 2006, 12:28 PM)
ps, robbie sux get rid of him and his drones
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Way to go Captain Caveman dry.gif



Nimrod
Post #8

Ever since i went out to a driftday as a spectator bout 2 yrs ago and one other spectator was there, we had a chat about drifting ( as you do) and just so happens he owned a 5ltr Vn commodore (Im sure some of you can recall the vehicle) I never thought of Holden or Fords or v8's for that matter as much as a drifting vehicle.
But this changed my view and since then we have seen a few getting around, but in the whole i think drifting still belongs to turbo's and imports as this is the set mind image i have when drifting is mentioned, yet alone the sport would not have begun without them.

But then bringing in Holden and fords etc into the sport could give drifting a bad name.
what im trying to say is that most of the cars on the street u see dropping skid's, axcting like fools are v8 owners ( no harm intended towards anyone) so if more fords/holdens begin drifiting then owners might go out more and try this on the street, thus giving the sport a bad name.

(this is the only bad part about it that i see)

Finally i would like to say to everyone remember to keep it off the street and on the track.

Eddzy
Post #9

Im a fan of encouraging diversity in drifting. Would love to see the new VZ SS battle a XR6T.

Daz_V6si
Post #10

Well Cam, you know how i feel about this mate, i personally think if we want drifting to become a much bigger player, we need to welcome in aussie cars because, and winge and moan about it as much as you like, they are an extremely popular car, and australia really is a V8 country.... Its good seeing 50-Man and Robbie out there for the V8 guys, and hopefully we get more and more of them out there.... Im sure the import guys and the aussie guys can play nice together, because in the end we all want the same thing...
tango
Post #11

this is a really good idea cam
i would love to have a go at drifting a ford

DioXidE
Post #12

hahha, that would rock - last drift day I was the only privateer aussie car severly outnumbered by all the imports...

yes i spin out but i'm learning and i'm sure if we got more aussie cars into it it would be great for the sport.

lotusmk1
Post #13

i tried to drift my ford but as it was the escort it sucked....

but i think it is a great idea and will bring ever more attention to the sport.

madcow
Post #14

'sif imports started drifting in Aus...pfft!!!!
Me and my mates were drifting our Sandmans, HQ's 'n Torries in the early 80's before imports were even on the scene. burnout.gif

Great idea mate - good luck with it.

johnsey
Post #15

sounds good to me

pinchy
Post #16

Yet to drift my vy ss ute but i am keen as

RetardedMonkey
Post #17

Tony rocks my world. And I don't even like Commodores. hehe.

Nah, will good. Competition is always welcomed in my opinion.

VLTurbro
Post #18

Hahahaha that would be awesome seeing stock VLs and EAs drifting. biggrin.gif

Both Holden and Ford are forces to be reckon with in drifting. IMO smile.gif

qwk_R6
Post #19

i personally like watchin v8's drift more than imports. i saw that commo that is posted in the first post at the last drift day i went to and when most of the imports are valve bouncin that thing just keeps pullin. plus it sounds awsome

TwinCam16
Post #20

There is a little but of a difference between drifting and a powerslide...

QUOTE(madcow @ Mar 8 2006, 06:49 PM)
'sif imports started drifting in Aus...pfft!!!!
Me and my mates were drifting our Sandmans, HQ's 'n Torries in the early 80's before imports were even on the scene. burnout.gif

Great idea mate - good luck with it.
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WRX mad
Post #21

QUOTE(57ING @ Mar 8 2006, 12:45 PM)
I think its great, these cars are making the power to do it, why should anyone descriminate what kind of car it is, hey, if someone built up a Mighty Boy that could drift Im pretty sure everyone would love it.

Im behind bringing anyone into it, its good to spread the wings of the sport, good on you.
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Agreed Sting, anyone who wants to have a go should be able to give it a go!!

cruisin in style
Post #22

i do agree with trying to get a more diverse range of cars in to drifting but what about a muscle v import battle instead of holden v ford it might get a wider range of people to watch it if the like muscle plus you would get people that like the imports dunno.gif

LOW_CAL
Post #23

more the merrier
gives every one something to cheer at or bag at the same time

go 50man !

TuFFvs
Post #24

count me in ay ! my VS ute is more then capable

KOS!
Post #25

Its the same as rallying, the more cars in it the better. Drifting is about having fun, not about who is better smile.gif (just like entry level private rallying) Theres nothing more boring then a whole bunch of the same old same old going round in circles.

zorak
Post #26

Anyone see the FPV turbo in this months street machine, inhouse build up by FPV and Prodrive ready to drift....

Raceflo
Post #27

Hey Guys

With out starting a which motorsport is better debate, i would like to say I have been a motorsport fan since I was 8 now at 35 I have seen enough and been involved with enough motorsport to have formed an opinion, and in my opinion Drift will become as big as the V8 Supercars, and the V8 Supercars will loose following, if the present way the series is run remains the same.

Going back to the 80's and early 90's we had what I consider the pinicle of Motorsport in this country, where all manufacturers had a vehicle competing and it was embracing of all forms of vehicles, 4's, 6's V8's Rotary, and it was fantastic, every one was catered for and it was good racing that rewarded those who put in the effort and built good cars, now all we have is a series that does not relate to any thing you can buy from any manufacturer, I mean when was the last time Holden made a 5.0 lt Commodore? every thing except the block and body panels is the same in both brands of cars, and there is only 2 brands, what happened to variety.

As such my interest in the series has been reduced to just above zero, and instead have focused on events like Targa, Classic Adelaide, Australian Performance Cars and of course Drift Racing.

The thing that makes Drift so appealing is its Divercity, you can have the Raceflo Hatchi of Leighton Fine beating Robbie Bolgers V8 ute one race and have Jeremy Lake take a clean Sweep in the Monaro Next Race, it is always interesting, diverse and above all free to all makes and models.

So my thoughts for what they are worth, are, sure bring out more holdens and more fords to drift events, but lets not go down the path of a holden vs ford only drift event, I think all of us non ford and non holden guys deserve the diversity that is part of drift and long term it will ensure that Drift Racing becomes a big as we know it can become.


Cheers
Jon

sandman_350
Post #28

more drifters like Tony Harrison can only make the sport grow ..... the fact he drives a V8 is a bonus , but that guy is an animal he could drift anything !

supercharger
Post #29

euros, aussies, japs, wateva, as long as its manual and RWD it has drift potential.

actually, maybe FWD drifting should be promoted a bit thats always interesting...

TwinCam16
Post #30

it would be like watching a cat dragging its ass, sure its funny, but at then end of the day, its cruel.

VLTurbro
Post #31

QUOTE(TwinCam16 @ Apr 4 2006, 02:20 AM) [snapback]6082194[/snapback]

it would be like watching a cat dragging its ass, sure its funny, but at then end of the day, its cruel.


lol couldnt've said it any better myself. biggrin.gif

Raceflo: The last time Holden made a 5.0L Commodore, was the VT, just before the introduction of the 5.7L LS1. smile.gif

tango
Post #32

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, but that guy is an animal he could drift anything !



you'd think that but i've seen him in an rx7

waterboyAE82
Post #33

Holden would win way too easy

80SNA
Post #34

QUOTE(madcow @ Mar 8 2006, 06:49 PM) [snapback]5997441[/snapback]

'sif imports started drifting in Aus...pfft!!!!
Me and my mates were drifting our Sandmans, HQ's 'n Torries in the early 80's before imports were even on the scene. burnout.gif

Great idea mate - good luck with it.


Do you even know the differnce between a powerslide and drifting?

supercharger
Post #35

fords cant be controlled going straight how are they gunna control one in a drift? oh well, at least it'll get that thing around a corner lol...

fwd drifting can be done but most ppl that think they can drift a fwd just ass-drag. fwd drifting isnt just holding up the ebrake... u need to accelerate alot too...

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