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Post #36

QUOTE (serrb @ Nov 8 2003, 04:29 PM)
Holy shit. Dejavu!

I was doing exactly the same thing when I read the post title.

isnt that what ppl with no lifes do, is just sit at the computer and drink coke Drink.gif ?
just what ive herd rolleyes.gif

back to the topic
it is very stupid
u would not only not gain performance but u would lose performance
simple as that

crazy_bunny
Post #37

It was jsut a simple fucking question. Im not that fucking smart on the technicle side of things and i wanted to no if it was possible or if it ould fuck up, you dont have to dis me cos you no more shit than me. a simple yes it wouild work or no it wouldnt and why would of done, but you go on with shit like "why don't you buy a boost guage and blow off valve while your at it."

51-KVL
Post #38

Righteo

I think he has what he needs to know. No more giving him shit for his incompetence. I'm sure we were all the same whe we started getting into cars.

-ben-
Post #39

the intake temp will not really differ. as turbo air can come out at 200c+ and ur intake would be 40

so just do cold air intake, not worth it and wouldnt really do much

Spec83
Post #40

Hmmm mabe a small water to air intercooler with a very little number of fins MAY work in bringing the air temp down (sort of like the dry ice idea). Small number of fins so that the pressure drop through the core isnt as much (can be a bit in air to air fmic's)

The reason why the air heats up in turbo cars -

*Compression of the air by the intake turbine.....by taking a set ammount of air and "squashing" it up generates thermal byproducts (heat hahaha!)
*Because of exhaust turbines and other underbonnet heat sources
*Other little things.........

As other people have mentioned your money would be much better spent on exhaust/extractors/cams/computer/fuel supply/NOS and other small things such as plug indexing etc... only once all these other avennues have been exhausted would u start to look at things like intercooling...everyone has a turbo these days so going a tuff NA setup would give u somethign very unique....be the sheapard not the sheep!
Grimwolge
Post #41

QUOTE (Mini Mac @ Nov 8 2003, 06:50 PM)
u guys are fuk heds, give the guy a break he asked a simple question looking for an answer not looking for fuk heds that think they're mr cool to come n dis him for not knowing as much about cars as them.

May be "fuk heds"

But we are semi-literate enough to be able to spell "Fuck Head"

Go back to preschool mate...

My 4 year old step-sister can type better than you and your riceboy mate put together...

 OppositeLock
Post #42

I'll tell you one thing... new posties always get hammered on this site and a lot of the time i think it's because they don't take the time to get in tune with the site before they start posting.

I think the admins should put in a two week "learning" period before new members are able to post. If they are keen enough they will wait it out. I know i was reading this site for close to 6 months before i signed up. Just a thought.

Boosted GT
Post #43

Not such a bad idea there OppsiteLock .... i used to look thru the site for months until i wanted to reply to something and ask a question, so i signed up.

Sometimes 'stupid' questions arent always asked thru lack of knowledge , some people just want a shit-fight.

crazy_bunny
Post #44

the only reason i asked was because i couldnt any information on it. Isnt that why this forum is here so that peolple can ask questions, if it was a fuck ass stupid question an admin would have locked it if they been watching the threads. and even if there was a 2 week period i would have asked after that 2 week period because it was a genuin question.

Grimwolge, were you referring to me as riceboy??

clifford
Post #45

most cars have radiators

Post #46

Ask Twincam16 laugh.gif

-ben-
Post #47

getting off topic. dry.gif

DINGUSS
Post #48

i just read the last 2 pages and its all off topic

71MBO
Post #49

give the dude a break he might not no anything but everyone gotta start sumwhere and from the FEW people that gave him a proper answer hes learnt a little bit more bout cars

serrb
Post #50

QUOTE (crazy_bunny @ Nov 8 2003, 05:38 PM)
It was jsut a simple fucking question. Im not that fucking smart on the technicle side of things and i wanted to no if it was possible or if it ould fuck up, you dont have to dis me cos you no more shit than me. a simple yes it wouild work or no it wouldnt and why would of done, but you go on with shit like "why don't you buy a boost guage and blow off valve while your at it."

Seriously man, to reply to your question again.
Having an intercooler without a turbo kind of defeats the whole purpose. So the answer is 'No'. smile.gif

king of the concrete jungle
Post #51

I can't beleive how some people carry on on this site. The poor bugger asks a legitimate question in the right area and some keyboard smartarses decide to have a group pay out! Grow up you fools. EVERYONE HAS TO LEARN SOMEWHERE, INCLUDING YOU! I hope anyone that has made a smartarse reply to the poor guy gets absolutley hammered by moderators because you bloody deserve it.

To help you out mate it was a good idea in theroy, but not practical. Some really good cold air induction and the purchase of one of those Hicloyne products will work wonders. I have bought 3 of those previously and seen the dyno results to prove they work. Good luck with it and don't let the keyboard tuff guys get to you on here.

s13viper
Post #52

some peoples thinking just defies me sometimes!

dw crazybunny, if u want the looks, buy a old one and dummy fit it, then use ur cash to get a decent CAI

tis all good

TurbostyleR
Post #53

QUOTE (king of the concrete jungle @ Nov 9 2003, 09:08 PM)
I can't beleive how some people carry on on this site. The poor bugger asks a legitimate question in the right area and some keyboard smartarses decide to have a group pay out! Grow up you fools. EVERYONE HAS TO LEARN SOMEWHERE, INCLUDING YOU! I hope anyone that has made a smartarse reply to the poor guy gets absolutley hammered by moderators because you bloody deserve it.

To help you out mate it was a good idea in theroy, but not practical. Some really good cold air induction and the purchase of one of those Hicloyne products will work wonders. I have bought 3 of those previously and seen the dyno results to prove they work. Good luck with it and don't let the keyboard tuff guys get to you on here.

So those Hicloyne things work???

I thought it was all bullshit??

How much do they increase the power?

Hawk
Post #54

QUOTE (crazy_bunny @ Nov 7 2003, 08:42 PM)
Ive been toying round with the idea of using a smallish intercooler too cool the air goin into the manifold with out runing a turbo. Just want to know do you think it would have enough pressure and would it provide much of a HP boost. Also thinking of getting water/alcohole sprayer to spary the cooler.

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Listen to King of the Concrete Jungle . I think he knows his stuff pretty well.

P.S. 2003 323 ---> These things can fully hammer without a turbo thumbsup.gif

SHERIF
Post #55

hey champ your on the wrong track .....

king of the concrete jungle
Post #56

QUOTE (TurbostyleR @ Nov 10 2003, 01:44 AM)

So those Hicloyne things work???

I thought it was all bullshit??

How much do they increase the power?

I picked up 10kw in my 2001 Holden Rodeo Sport 3.2 DOHC V6 4WD, 14kw in IH8WRX and 9kw in my VS SS.

On top of the extra KW's I got it also improved my fuel economy buy around 10% in all 3 vehicles. The heaviest vehicle on fuel I own is the Rodeo, it guzzles fuel but I now get pretty good fuel consumption out of it. I modified its air pick up system, decent extactors and exhaust system and fit the Hyclone. It was 140kw standard, it now puts out 170kw at the flywheel. Could have gone further and fitted cam head work etc etc (they do this to the Jacaroo's for rallying and safari races etc) but didn't see the need as I got a decent power upgrade buy those mods alone. Anyone thats been in my Rodeo can testify it gets up and hammers and due to it's DOHC configiration it will do a standard 3.8V6 commodore of the line.

Bottom line is the Hyclones work and you won't regret buying them if you do.

adam
Post #57

ive seen them work as well, but only if the intake system on that engine is inferior enough to actually need it

TurbostyleR
Post #58

QUOTE (king of the concrete jungle @ Nov 10 2003, 06:58 AM)
QUOTE (TurbostyleR @ Nov 10 2003, 01:44 AM)

So those Hicloyne things work???

I thought it was all bullshit??

How much do they increase the power?

I picked up 10kw in my 2001 Holden Rodeo Sport 3.2 DOHC V6 4WD, 14kw in IH8WRX and 9kw in my VS SS.

On top of the extra KW's I got it also improved my fuel economy buy around 10% in all 3 vehicles. The heaviest vehicle on fuel I own is the Rodeo, it guzzles fuel but I now get pretty good fuel consumption out of it. I modified its air pick up system, decent extactors and exhaust system and fit the Hyclone. It was 140kw standard, it now puts out 170kw at the flywheel. Could have gone further and fitted cam head work etc etc (they do this to the Jacaroo's for rallying and safari races etc) but didn't see the need as I got a decent power upgrade buy those mods alone. Anyone thats been in my Rodeo can testify it gets up and hammers and due to it's DOHC configiration it will do a standard 3.8V6 commodore of the line.

Bottom line is the Hyclones work and you won't regret buying them if you do.

SHIT HEY!!!

I always joked about those things to my mates saying how stupid they were....fucken shut me up now didnt they!!! hahahaha

where abouts did you get your hyclones from king?

deva
Post #59

U can't argue with king of the concrete jungle, he's always right... It's a fact.
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where can i purchase one of these hyclose products? my ute guzzles the fuel too.

andrew180sx
Post #60

dont be stupid
this is rediculous

king of the concrete jungle
Post #61

QUOTE (deva @ Nov 10 2003, 09:44 PM)
U can't argue with king of the concrete jungle, he's always right... It's a fact.
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

where can i purchase one of these hyclose products? my ute guzzles the fuel too.

ROFL. I have trained you well my son Deva tongue.gif

OK seriously anyone in Q.L.D. that wants a Hiclone should ring 1800 683 466 or check out their website www.hicloneqld.com

I don't know everything and never will but I don't like seeing people throwing their hard earned dollars away when I know something works better. But thanks for the compliment guys and only to happy to help when I can.

mAJORD
Post #62

LOL u are joking right

neil_se
Post #63

don't knock it til you've tried it i guess!

Phonic
Post #64

I have put a HiClone on a 3.0 V6 24valve Magna (no dyno) and I couldn't notice any power increase, but feul economy did increase, on avrage used to get about 20-30 k's per tank more with the hiclone.

deva
Post #65

Yeah, i'm gunna have to invest in a new K&N filter and a new hiclone,, damn ute uses WAY too much petty.

woody
Post #66

QUOTE (Phonic @ Nov 10 2003, 11:40 PM)
I have put a HiClone on a 3.0 V6 24valve Magna (no dyno) and I couldn't notice any power increase, but feul economy did increase, on avrage used to get about 20-30 k's per tank more with the hiclone.

u got 20-30k's off a tank? shit is it only 2 ltr tank or soemthing?

deva
Post #67

he means 20 - 30ks' EXTRA per tank

TurbostyleR
Post #68

160 bucks....man thats pretty expensive for those things....

but i mean what performance mod is cheap these days?

woody
Post #69

ah whoops, read that wrong, im a bit tired so yeah

woody
Post #70

QUOTE (TurbostyleR @ Nov 11 2003, 12:25 AM)
160 bucks....man thats pretty expensive for those things....

but i mean what performance mod is cheap these days?

stickers?

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