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nichy
Post #36

i think you should get 20' rims like J's got......oh hang on....he didn't get them did he!!!

GTS-t would be the way to go not worth the fucking around.....

timmy_o
Post #37

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Nah my mate that manages the place has a Maroan R33 that's parked there most days. Last I was there was Saturday, in my ride tho. Anyway, better not screw this topic up.


Nvm I'm thinking of the other Caltex closer to Geilston Bay...

Ok back on topic now! biggrin.gif

But man if you want something custom, drop something in do what YOU want to it, yeah it will cost you more money it will be alot of fucking around but you will get what YOU want in the end.

delazy
Post #38

QUOTE(timmy_o @ Jul 27 2006, 11:24 AM) [snapback]1280098268[/snapback]

But man if you want something custom, drop something in do what YOU want to it, yeah it will cost you more money it will be alot of fucking around but you will get what YOU want in the end.

puttin a rb20 into a r32 wouldnt b considered custom....now puttin a Sr20 in one would b custom biggrin.gif

timmy_o
Post #39

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puttin a rb20 into a r32 wouldnt b considered custom....now puttin a Sr20 in one would b custom


That's what I meant... Dropping a NEW/DIFFERENT engine in. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough...

ronald_r32
Post #40

QUOTE(delazy @ Jul 27 2006, 01:31 PM) [snapback]1280098635[/snapback]

puttin a rb20 into a r32 wouldnt b considered custom....now puttin a Sr20 in one would b custom biggrin.gif

taking a engine out of a non turbo car and putting a turbo one in would be counted as custom.

delazy
Post #41

QUOTE(ronald_r32 @ Jul 27 2006, 01:41 PM) [snapback]1280098665[/snapback]

taking a engine out of a non turbo car and putting a turbo one in would be counted as custom.


nah disagree...aslong as the engine came in that model of car sometime in its life i wouldnt call it custom! everything pretty much bolts in, there is no custom work involved!

now sr20 in r32 would b different as would puttin a rb26 into a S13 (but why would u) but yea....

ottoS13
Post #42

QUOTE(ronald_r32 @ Jul 27 2006, 01:41 PM) [snapback]1280098665[/snapback]

taking a engine out of a non turbo car and putting a turbo one in would be counted as custom.


what planet are you on ben. you cant say i have a custom rb20det r32, thats bloody standard. just like i cant say i have a custom silvia

phatroll
Post #43

QUOTE(nichy @ Jul 26 2006, 10:55 PM) [snapback]1280097362[/snapback]

GTS-t would be the way to go not worth the fucking around.....


GTS-t isnt the way to go... GT-R is the shiz nit.

MUZ
Post #44

lol... thanks for giving me a break aido unlike mr. AROGNT

i liek my car. and i would kill myself in a turbo car now im just thinking aobut the ned of next year. + my parents wouldnt want me to have a turbo car + i didnt quite have the $$.

Its not that gutless just not real fast. Its everythnig i wanted for a first car.

delazy
Post #45

QUOTE(phatroll @ Jul 27 2006, 06:30 PM) [snapback]1280099790[/snapback]

GTS-t isnt the way to go... GT-R is the shiz nit.


mate his 16

ASYLUM
Post #46

so u guys r saying that if I dropped a twin turbo legacy engine in my beast... then it wouldn't be custom??

MUZ
Post #47

well i figure i might as well just get anotehr car later. although someone said i could bolt all teh turbo shit straight onto my engine? is this true? how hard and how much $$ would this be. and where could i get the parts?

also what are some other 'go fast' mods i could do to the skyline. just to give it a little more poke.

and when i do get an exaust on it. what do u guys suggest? i know theres not much u can do with an n/a skyline but anything that would give me a few more kw?

juddo_031
Post #48

Nothing bigger than 2 1/2 inch on a Nat Atmo 2L, also is it Rb20E or Rb20de?

phatroll
Post #49

QUOTE(delazy @ Jul 27 2006, 07:05 PM) [snapback]1280099918[/snapback]

mate his 16


Thanks Delazy, now i feel like a noob! rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif bowrofl.gif

Sonic Drift
Post #50

Give MUZ a break. ..... a top ride for an L plater.

but yeah get ur licence and get used to the NA engine then sell up and go for a GTS-t.

Civic over and NA skyline .....some good drugs up your way then stu!

nothing wrong with an NA skyline for a first car. Shits all over what i had for my first ride.
Go the KE-10.

Jord
Post #51

fuck yea go civic smile.gif

MUZ
Post #52

QUOTE(Sonic Drift @ Jul 27 2006, 08:53 PM) [snapback]1280100319[/snapback]

but yeah get ur licence and get used to the NA engine then sell up and go for a GTS-t.


think i will do mate thumbsup.gif Wont be for another year or so yet though. i'll say the end of next year.

oh and juddo its an RB20DE

oh and wtf do the D n E stand for? i was thinking about that the other day...

any more mods you guys can think of to keep me happy till the end of next year? tongue.gif

Sonic Drift
Post #53

D= Double over head cam
E= EFI / Fuel Injected.

if it was a DET the T=Turbo

timmy_o
Post #54

Air intake and shit could be done, a new exhaust nothing over 2 1/2 though as it is N/A.

MUZ
Post #55

air intake on the way... got a little pod on now.... but it seems to be sucking in hot air as i have made the intake thingo yet. will do this Week sumtime.

timmy_o
Post #56

Where abouts is the pod? If you can't be fucked moving it... there is a pod shield thing you can buy to block out some of the heat from the engine and that...

Cheddle
Post #57

ok some mods you could do to keep it n/a, ur on a budjet so heres some cheepish ones

POWER:

1) place the pod in a cold (ambient tempreture) area, not so much in the engine bay. Cold air has more oxygen in it. its like boost in a way smile.gif
price: $20-$140

2) a 2 1/4 exaughst would be plenty, im not sure what you hve atm my gts-4 has 2.5 stock
price: $200-$500

3) advance your timing and run the best fuel you can find (BP Ultimate atm) that will definitly give you more kick for nothing
price: $0-$0

4) get some kick ass cams, there a bit more expensive but if done propperly can give u massive power gains as well as more tourqe at specific rev ranges, ect... some cams give u mad power at 2000-3000 rpm while others make ur motor shit house untill ur at 5000+ rpm and then u go like a cut snake
price: lots... $1000+

5) exaughst manifold, get a decent exaughst manifold, helps with the extraction of bad ass exaughst.

Keep this car man

work with what you have, insted of just replaceing it work with it...

if you do want to get a turbo engine get an RB25DET MUCH more kick. put it this way a stock RB25DE will own an RB20DET down the drags and an RB25DET will do both over backwards

you shouldnt have any major problems, try talking to some of the people who own r31's on here as i think most of them have been converted to RB20DET

im preety sure the breaks on gts/gts-t/gts-4 are all the same, its the gt-r that have larger ones. My gts-4 has 2 pot frounts and 1 pot rears and its the same 4wd setup as the gtr

so breaks and suspension will be fine.

ottoS13
Post #58

$140 for a pod? what drugs are you on
also you cant just adjust your timing for free

timmy_o
Post #59

Maybe he isnt talking just bout the pod... maybe piping and accesories aswell?

delazy
Post #60

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4) get some kick ass cams, there a bit more expensive but if done propperly can give u massive power gains as well as more tourqe at specific rev ranges, ect... some cams give u mad power at 2000-3000 rpm while others make ur motor shit house untill ur at 5000+ rpm and then u go like a cut snake
price: lots... $1000+

hhhhmmmmm....waste of money....rb20de is a pov pack engine...spending 1k-1.5k on cams would b a huge waste of time.....thought it was goin to be budget mods!! massive power gains?? lol!! wouldnt exactly say that unless u went for some massive lift/degree cams but then im pretty sure ud need upgraded valve train etc

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if you do want to get a turbo engine get an RB25DET MUCH more kick. put it this way a stock RB25DE will own an RB20DET down the drags and an RB25DET will do both over backwards

LMAO....gotta be the biggest joke ive heard!! u on drugs mate?? dunno what uve been watching!
maybe if it was a dr. drift rb25de+T...but otherwise ur dreaming mate!!

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im preety sure the breaks on gts/gts-t/gts-4 are all the same, its the gt-r that have larger ones. My gts-4 has 2 pot frounts and 1 pot rears and its the same 4wd setup as the gtr

gts got pov pack brakes....same as all nissan non turbos, they go brakes the size of a saucer, while the turbo models got brakes the size of a pizza tray! brakes vary in nissans heaps....countless different calipers and rotor sizes/thickness

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so breaks and suspension will be fine.

breaks a suspension wont be fine!! with a new engine more weight is put over the front struts and severely effects the handling! the suspension in it now is more than likely stock and is well and truely over 15y.o by now, definately wouldnt wanna throw a turbo engine in it and go for a drive to find a strut collasping and sendin u into a bank etc! before u do any serious engine mods its commonsense to do suspension/brakes or atleast make sure what uve got is in good condition!

thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif

please ppl only giv advice if u know what ur talking about!

RBDRTY
Post #61

QUOTE(ottoS13 @ Aug 8 2006, 09:27 AM) [snapback]1280133215[/snapback]

also you cant just adjust your timing for free

Yes you can. Timing light and a 12mm spanner! wink.gif

Whoever said the brakes would be fine is a fuckin idiot. How bout we take the brakes off your car? Cause thats how underbraked Muz's car would probably be without a suitable setup!

Mookie
Post #62

u gotta tune the car after u change the timing right ?
https://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....howtopic=153165
turbo cams ?
https://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....howtopic=149513
he sounds like he might be neg on price
https://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....howtopic=152776
project ?
https://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....howtopic=153158
$500 all it needs is a new head ?

Pie
Post #63

Yes delazy because only a dr drift rb25de-t could possibly make power.

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f you do want to get a turbo engine get an RB25DET MUCH more kick. put it this way a stock RB25DE will own an RB20DET down the drags and an RB25DET will do both over backwards

Just for a real life example, harolto's rb20'd r31, pulled consistently better times at the r31skylineclub.com drag day against juddo 31s rb25de r31. and the rb25 isnt THAT much of a performance boost, stock they are more powerful sure but modifications even things out.

harolto
Post #64

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put it this way a stock RB25DE will own an RB20DET down the drags and an RB25DET will do both over backwards

Hmmm, big words there,
at the drags we had R31s with different states of mods,
one had a 200+KW Rb25DET that got beaten by a 170kw RB20DET (was close, but RB20 had it)
i had Stock R31 exhaust (1.5inch or some shit) Stock R32 cooler (in the engine bay with no cold air feeding to it) and i ran a 15.8 with that, and 15.3 with no exhaust,
the RB30 R31s (N/A) were running constant low 16s with exhaust, and CAI,
and Juddies RB25DE powered R31 did supprisingly bad in the hot weather, but in colder weather it was a close race (between mine and his)
i know that driver skill and alot of other things come into it at the drags, but this is what those cars did, if your not after big power, and are on a budget then IMHO RB20DET would be the way to go,
if you have to keep a car NA, then go RB25DE (both engines can be had for around $1000)
-Jake

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