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8th March 2005 - 01:08 AM
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_Insane089_
Post #39
why not a turbo V8?? |
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blackout
Post #42
this is the shit i hate about some people on the forums. |
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57ING
Post #45
QUOTE(the red krawler @ Mar 8 2005, 05:26 PM) This is a dumb poll stingles :S You're comparing apples and oranges again, you're as bad as Pensioners Insurance Agency. [right][snapback]4999173[/snapback][/right] Hahahaha I'll pay that..... The idea of the poll for "grunt" could be anything from a Masarati to a Porsche for outright grunt. But yeah, it was based on the new Holden motor having 300kw's. Yes mostly the big kw cars are heavier than the lightweight turbo-charged cars, but it was set up to be fun, by the looks of it the Grunts are doing alright compared to the Boosts being in a biased site like this one. Boost could be anything from the turbo car world under 200kw's, WRX to Evo. I got the inspiration from reading last month's Motor magazine that compared the Evo 8, FPV F6 Typhoon and the new LS2 R8 I think it was, and the Commodore came out on top in all aspects, handling through to performance. |
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the red krawler
Post #46
I'm still miffed as to how a 200kw turbo car has more top end than a 300kw V8 :S |
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Menco
Post #47
QUOTE(blackout @ Mar 8 2005, 08:50 PM) this is the shit i hate about some people on the forums. No one in this world (unless they are a fuckwit rich person) buys a brand new car because of its ability to drift. DRIFT IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CONSIDER WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A BRAND NEW CAR. And for those who whinge about a 300kw GTS drinking fuel, if you have the dosh to spend on such a car, you have the dosh to fuel it. [right][snapback]4999476[/snapback][/right] Drifting with one finger is obviously going to show how good the cars handling and balance is. An evo 8 in the hands of an experienced race driver can also out handle an awd lambo in the hands of an experienced race driver. The only prob with the evo 8 is it has some pretty bad lag and if your not in at the right revs your stuffed. |
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FRI22
Post #50
QUOTE(the red krawler @ Mar 8 2005, 09:06 PM) I'm still miffed as to how a 200kw turbo car has more top end than a 300kw V8 :S Then again, I know of a 255hp turbo VL that is dead even with a 310hp V8 VY...  [right][snapback]4999497[/snapback][/right] Hmmmm, must be the gearing cause the VL runs out of legs 
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the red krawler
Post #51
QUOTE(FRI22 @ Mar 8 2005, 09:14 PM) Hmmmm, must be the gearing cause the VL runs out of legs [right][snapback]4999512[/snapback][/right] Whatchew talking about, 1st 2nd 3rd is dead even. Then I run out of gears  Not legs Stupid 4th gear equipped auto boxes. Fancy-schmancy things.1:1 is as far as any box should go, cruising at 5000rpm is good mmkay? |
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blackout
Post #52
Then what does Motor magazine tell you about which is better out of the two cars? (GTO versus Evo) |
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MCS-83
Post #56
Both have their own advantages but cubes will always win when it comes to modifying cars, unless you don't plan on trying to get more power out of the car. Don't see why people worship the apparently powerful BA falcons, the typhoon was pulled out of Wheels COTY because it can't handle its own power, thats pretty pathetic.. On another note, F.I.T.'s turbo commodore v6 ( was originally a supercharged v6 ) ran a 11 second pass using the stock block. |
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SupraCrazy
Post #57
QUOTE(the red krawler @ Mar 8 2005, 05:26 PM) This is a dumb poll stingles :S Why not just straight out ask 300kw LS2 Commodore or 200kw turbo Evo8? Based on the poll question alone, I'd take the 300kw and thats all there is to that. 300kw is 150% the power of the 200kw car, regardless of how it makes it. Having 200kw in a turbo car is hardly "top end", especially compared to a 300kw non-turbo car. The non-turbo car would smash it stupid in every way, except the ability to hold traction in the wet - and even then the torque spike of a 200kw turbo car would probably just as much of a handful to drive. ^ This is assuming all other attributes are equal, which in what the REAL reason for your poll is, they arent. You're comparing apples and oranges again, you're as bad as Pensioners Insurance Agency. [right][snapback]4999173[/snapback][/right] Back in the day when I was running 195rwkw I went up against a few GTO's (300kw). They didn't have much once they hit 150ish km/h. We're roughly the same weight, but totally different in where the power is located. This was from a roll, but from a dig I'd get smashed. Don't know....maybe I'm a freak. btw they weren't being Sally's, they were racing. * All done @ QR of course. |
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The Pupat
Post #60
QUOTE(MCS-83 @ Mar 8 2005, 10:32 PM) Both have their own advantages but cubes will always win when it comes to modifying cars, unless you don't plan on trying to get more power out of the car. Don't see why people worship the apparently powerful BA falcons, the typhoon was pulled out of Wheels COTY because it can't handle its own power, thats pretty pathetic.. On another note, F.I.T.'s turbo commodore v6 ( was originally a supercharged v6 ) ran a 11 second pass using the stock block. [right][snapback]4999626[/snapback][/right] And Nizpro ran 11.3 at 127mph on a stock block on pump fuel. What's your point? Ohh you have none just taking the time to bash Fawd over something you know squat about. Ohh and they ran 11.1@131mph with a built motor and the same bits hanging off it the next week. |
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MCS-83
Post #62
The typhoon was pulled out the COTY award because it blew two clutches, a gearbox and a diff during the testing. wheels decided it didn't deserve to be put up as it would just embarrass ford. and your comparing a old buick pushrod motor that was running on pump fuel to something with double over head cams. i was just saying thats pretty amazing times for that type of motor and car, fuckin rice worshipers |
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The Pupat
Post #63
You seem to want to take every chance to bag out Fawd from one little clutch drama in one specific spec level. |
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mkerr
Post #68
QUOTE(The Pupat @ Mar 8 2005, 10:55 PM) I don't know who's worse. Sting for baiting all you guys, or all the ones that chose the underpowered turbo cause it makes Phhsssttt sounds. How can a motor make a car handle. [right][snapback]4999649[/snapback][/right] weight location power curves / spikes etc etc |
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blackout
Post #69
all I know is ford bashing is getting quite old these days. |
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