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Post #1 post 18th April 2004 - 11:35 PM
I am thinking of buying a sony xplode system but have been saying there shit and the sound isnt that great, also i have been thinking of going for a pioneer system


if anybody could help that would be great

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JayJay
Post #2

Go for the Pioneer, I've heard that the Explodes fade out from time to time and that they lie about some stuff, that is what I heard anyway, so go for the Pioneer.

shonkas88
Post #3

thanks
because i heard that the xplod's have a higher watt's but it sounds shit

so just go for the pioneer

big929
Post #4

higher watts doesnt mean anything really.

they are just maximum power and if u crank em to that, they become distorted and sound crap. You can get pretty good stuff out of the trading post. It all depends what u want (SQ, SPL etc.) and how much u wanna spend.

if u can choose between pioneer and xplod, go for pioneer.

Gibbo
Post #5

no choice out of pioneer and sony really tongue.gif bit of a no brainer.

If you can though, go a better brand for amp and sub however, pioneer head decks and speaker are great for the price, but I wouldn't buy their subs to be perfectly honest.

13THL
Post #6

Xplod dont have a higher wattage at all.
They just rate their stuff at max power, not RMS power like you should do, and where the hart of the equipment comes from.

Paolo
Post #7

If I was you I would mix the brands up abit.

Starting off with a JVC headunit, JL speakers, Coustic amps, Kicker/ Cadences subs

Thats what I like anyway.

LINO28
Post #8

yeah dont build your system just based on a single brand name.
not every brand has good H/U, Amps, splits, subs

BTW nothing wrong with Sony Headunits......speakers and amps are a bit of a problem though.

Dirty Raver
Post #9

Xplodes have a tendence to do exactly that.. EXPLODE! huh.gif go the pioneer ive got pioneer and it does the job very well! thumbsup.gif tunes.gif

ferdie
Post #10

dude dont go for sony!!!!!

pioneer is the better of the 2, but b 4 u buy, listen to other brands in cars/walls in shops and make a educated decision on what sounds good 2 u!!! i personally would never settle for either of these brands because i have sampled so many better car audio systems that dont cost much more and will be so much better 2 listen 2 in the end.

cheers
nathan

Nathan
Post #11

You would think it would be self explanatory to put this thread in "Car Audio Forum"

DJC
Post #12

This is madness. Not to start a shit fight and all but all you guys that are saying that sony is crap and they have no sound quality and that they explode is a load of BS. I mean really, can your ears tell the difference when the subs are pumping any ways ? If I stuck u all in a room told u to just listen to the various tracks throgh different systems I bet not one of you would be able to tell the difference and further more I doubt one of you would be able to even tell me what brands sound liek what. In the end it all comes down to $$$. The more $$$ u spen the more tunes.gif you will have. Its that simple. Saying that Sony are crap and that their head decks are shit is not really explaining any thing to the poor guy. I have a Sony explode and I think it kicks ass. But when I hear another car stero I don't look at the stupid brand I listen to the music besides isn't that whats it all about.

Just my 2 cents, bit sick of hearing every one say that Sony Sucks and not telling me why they suck just that they do. OMG dry.gif

Cheers biggrin.gif

Team Eddy
Post #13

Once apon a time most of sony's products were good... then they brought out xplod.

early xplod stuff imo, is not worth much chop at all, unless you paid out for the premium xplod gear.

4yrs later sony have picked up there game alot and have learnt from most [MOST] of there mistakes and are now putting out reasonable gear.

personaly though i still wouldnt buy it - i've got pioneer hd and its great! thumbsup.gif

easty1
Post #14

i would stay away from pioneer except for their slits, and i would stay away from sony and xplode all together, thats my opinion anyway, had some bad experiences.

JVC, JL, JBL, Kicker, Cadence and Eclipse would my choices, although obviously it goes up in price from there....all depends how much cash u got to throw at your system.

dont buy half assed stuff though, if u cant afford the good stuff, by it all bit by bit and eventually u will be cranking. just start with a decent head deck and then work form there... no use doing it twice biggrin.gif

~*b*~
Post #15

DONT DONT DONT even think about buying Sony Xplode... Very very poor quality. with the amount of money you spend on them, you could get a sound system with much more power and 110% more reliable.

If you really want to get a decent brand speak to Phil from Incar Audio.. 55 264 885. Tell him Bianca sent you. He will be able to point you in the right direction and give you all the info you need.

Hoon
Post #16

QUOTE (Nathan @ Apr 19 2004, 07:44 PM)
You would think it would be self explanatory to put this thread in "Car Audio Forum"

Yes I think I might move it. Some people today... tsk tsk tsk

QUOTE (Jaron @ Apr 20 2004, 09:17 AM)
This is madness. Not to start a shit fight and all but all you guys that are saying that sony is crap and they have no sound quality and that they explode is a load of BS. I mean really, can your ears tell the difference when the subs are pumping any ways ? If I stuck u all in a room told u to just listen to the various tracks throgh different systems I bet not one of you would be able to tell the difference and further more I doubt one of you would be able to even tell me what brands sound liek what. In the end it all comes down to $$$. The more  $$$ u spen the more  tunes.gif  you will have. Its that simple. Saying that Sony are crap and that their head decks are shit is not really explaining any thing to the poor guy. I have a Sony explode and I think it kicks ass. But when I hear another car stero I don't look at the stupid brand I listen to the music besides isn't that whats it all about.

Just my 2 cents, bit sick of hearing every one say that Sony Sucks and not telling me why they suck just that they do. OMG  dry.gif

Cheers  biggrin.gif

Okay if you go back and read comments you will realise people have had experience from using Sony Xplode. Dont get me wrong Sony is a top brand but the Xplode range is by far one of the worst products they ever brought out. The QUALITY is poor, the RELIABILITY is poor.. and you find that when buying subs you want them to at least last you SOME time. Not just to burn out after a few months like what they do!

Feel free to invest your money into a product that doesnt do its job properly. not to mention pretty much spontaniously combusts after a short time! wink.gif Dont say we didnt warn you.

thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif

psi999
Post #18

I had a top of the range Sony Xplod head unit in my 200sx, never had a problem with it, worked flawlessly.... cant comment on speaker quality though, i ran JBL's


DJC
Post #19

QUOTE (~*b*~ @ Apr 20 2004, 10:31 AM)
Okay if you go back and read comments you will realise people have had experience from using Sony Xplode. Dont get me wrong Sony is a top brand but the Xplode range is by far one of the worst products they ever brought out. The QUALITY is poor, the RELIABILITY is poor.. and you find that when buying subs you want them to at least last you SOME time. Not just to burn out after a few months like what they do!

Feel free to invest your money into a product that doesnt do its job properly. not to mention pretty much spontaniously combusts after a short time! wink.gif Dont say we didnt warn you.

thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif

Can't you see you have just simply said sony products are poor, tired of people saying that Sony sucks. I mean if you can go into specific's it would be great but just to say that Quality is poor (what type of quality, design, sound, price for value, components, tones ect ); the reliability is poor, well I totaled my Seca last year (total mess) the only things that were left together was my Sony gear. Everything else including custom box was destroyed, but the head deck and subs and 6'9 now rest in my house all working. Now to me that spells RELIABILITY.

For any one who actually knows alot about car stero's e.g works in an audio shop some help please. Just because word on the grape vine says they are shit.

BUT WHY ?????? blink.gif

Cheers thumbsup.gif

QUOTE (Paolo @ Apr 19 2004, 06:21 PM)
If I was you I would mix the brands up abit.

Starting off with a JVC headunit, JL speakers, Coustic amps, Kicker/ Cadences subs

Thats what I like anyway.

i agree, dont put all your eggs in one basket.

jabes
Post #21

It would be best to give us a budget and what you were looking to buy, then we could give you a better idea on what the best things you can get for your money are.

Try not to stick to one brand, as other people have said...

HooDs
Post #22

i'll sell ya the tape deck outta my old ladys magna? thumbsup.gif

QUOTE (Jaron @ Apr 20 2004, 11:31 AM)

Can't you see you have just simply said sony products are poor, tired of people saying that Sony sucks. I mean if you can go into specific's it would be great but just to say that Quality is poor (what type of quality, design, sound, price for value, components, tones ect ); the reliability is poor, well I totaled my Seca last year (total mess) the only things that were left together was my Sony gear. Everything else including custom box was destroyed, but the head deck and subs and 6'9 now rest in my house all working. Now to me that spells RELIABILITY.






For any one who actually knows alot about car stero's e.g works in an audio shop some help please. Just because word on the grape vine says they are shit.

BUT WHY ??????  blink.gif

Cheers  thumbsup.gif

ok man here goes.

sony is over rating its product, a headunit that is 52wx4 is in fact more like 18wrmsx4 this means that it will 18wrms all day every day and the only time that it will run at 52x4 is just as lightning strikes the unit and just before it melts into a blob of metal... sony makes good home audio/vusial no questions here, now what they did was enter car audio with out enough product development but a huge marketing campain, as a result they sold lots and lots of units that were of average quality. and by this i mean they have not so good anti skip functions and the longevity of the lasers..... also the sound processing side of town leaves a lot 2 be desired. the sound production sounds tinny in my opinion, with bass that is usually muddy and lacking definition.

dont get me started on the speakers... cos they lack in all the parameters that make good speakers, poor power handeling, bad excursion, very in-efficient.

now compare this with other brands. hertz and audison for example
hertz make speakers. thats all they do. all there development goes in 2 making speakers. if they make bad speakers they go bust. audison make amps for sonud quality and thats all they do. as a result both there companys make top products because they specalize in these fields.

i started with a sony system, once u learn 2 appreciate good quality then u will never go back. listen 2 everything u can and decide what u like...

just like comparing an excel and a subaru one has got relyability and an amount of performance and the other has got nothing because they r cheaper on build/r and d is less and although there is the ocasional good one encountered on a whole they have a bad reputation

sorry bout the long post, hope this answers ur q'
nathan

15EXN
Post #24

well my sony 6x9's sound a hell of a lot better than ppl that have jl and pioneer 6x9's that i have heard

again there are variables though eg parcel shelf is pretty solid in my car

but yer ive never had any problems

now if we talk about blaupunkt...... thumbsup.gif

HooDs
Post #25

generally , if something sounds like shit but you like who cares what anyone else thinks?

the whole purpose in buying a system to your requirements is because its for YOU.

if u like it buy it

if u dont, dont. biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Jaron @ Apr 20 2004, 11:31 AM)
QUOTE (~*b*~ @ Apr 20 2004, 10:31 AM)
Okay if you go back and read comments you will realise people have had experience from using Sony Xplode. Dont get me wrong Sony is a top brand but the Xplode range is by far one of the worst products they ever brought out. The QUALITY is poor, the RELIABILITY is poor.. and you find that when buying subs you want them to at least last you SOME time. Not just to burn out after a few months like what they do!

Feel free to invest your money into a product that doesnt do its job properly. not to mention pretty much spontaniously combusts after a short time!  wink.gif  Dont say we didnt warn you.

thumbsup.gif  thumbsup.gif

Can't you see you have just simply said sony products are poor, tired of people saying that Sony sucks. I mean if you can go into specific's it would be great but just to say that Quality is poor (what type of quality, design, sound, price for value, components, tones ect ); the reliability is poor, well I totaled my Seca last year (total mess) the only things that were left together was my Sony gear. Everything else including custom box was destroyed, but the head deck and subs and 6'9 now rest in my house all working. Now to me that spells RELIABILITY.

For any one who actually knows alot about car stero's e.g works in an audio shop some help please. Just because word on the grape vine says they are shit.

BUT WHY ?????? blink.gif

Cheers thumbsup.gif

Okay... I feel like I am talking to a brick wall..

My brother in law owns a well known Car audio company and he refuses to stock Sony products because of their unreliablity! And also because so many customers who used to purchase the product off him found it faulty, poor quality or was unable to actually hold any decent DB's at all..

This IS from experience.. I have used the products also, and I have found them shonky and the sound quite poor in comparison to what I use now. I didnt say that all sony products were bad, just the xplode range! I have given you reasoning, and if you seriously cannot see what the hell IM writing because you cannot read properly, I will give you the guys phone number and he can give u many examples on why this product is not at all worth paying money for. Obviously other people are going ot have different opinions, and if the products worked for you.. then good for you! keep using the products! Just stating a few facts and trying to save you wasting your money.

NISMOgemini
Post #27

cant be bothered reading all the replys so it might have been said already.. sony = shit
pioneer aint to far behind it (from experiance) pioneer head units are sexuall, the rest is shit...
stick with american brands and not jap or china made stuff

QUOTE (Jaron @ Apr 20 2004, 11:31 AM)
Can't you see you have just simply said sony products are poor, tired of people saying that Sony sucks. I mean if you can go into specific's it would be great but just to say that Quality is poor (what type of quality, design, sound, price for value, components, tones ect ); the reliability is poor, well I totaled my Seca last year (total mess) the only things that were left together was my Sony gear. Everything else including custom box was destroyed, but the head deck and subs and 6'9 now rest in my house all working. Now to me that spells RELIABILITY.

For any one who actually knows alot about car stero's e.g works in an audio shop some help please. Just because word on the grape vine says they are shit.

BUT WHY ?????? blink.gif

Cheers thumbsup.gif

if you think the fact that your headunit survived a car crash spells reliability, i hardly think you have any idea whatsoever reguards car audio, sony xplod, okay fine i'll tell you the "specifics", they sound poor, they're designed poorly, they have poor power handling and poor excusion levels without distortion, they're cheaply priced because of just that, they're cheap, mainstream, everyday replacement but no improvment over stock speakers, and poor tones? what the hell are you on about, they can have poor reproduction of different hz levels (Which they do) but whats a "bad toned speaker?" mate, go back to high school if you think car audio is based on how well it survives in a crash.

big929
Post #29

its like anything, u get what u pay for.

simple as that.

even though the sony 6" might be 50w rms and DLS 6" are 50w rms, DLS would blow the sony off the scale. Porbably because u could by 5 sets of sony for one DLS, as i said, u get what u paid for.

Although, the sony head decks, i think it reatiled for about $250 to $200 with the blue LCD was pretty good, we had one in our skyline, it never skipped once and never played up. But then again, my pioneer HD has about 300 times the features of the sony one.

trd_rolla
Post #30

haha laugh.gif hav u herd of that place in the city sumwhere that got so sik of Sony car audio, that they stopped stocking the stuff. But they had a few 15" subs left or sumthin; so now they're having a 'Sub Throwing' contest with the Xplod subs biggrin.gif

QUOTE (trd_rolla @ Apr 20 2004, 05:33 PM)
haha laugh.gif hav u herd of that place in the city sumwhere that got so sik of Sony car audio, that they stopped stocking the stuff. But they had a few 15" subs left or sumthin; so now they're having a 'Sub Throwing' contest with the Xplod subs biggrin.gif

i know Northfield capalaba stopped stocking sony cause they thought it was shit.

big929
Post #32

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

i heard that too, cause i bought a sony sub about 1.5 years ago Drink.gif , used it for a month and bought a 15" kicker instead biggrin.gif

when i went to northfield to upgrade my system, they saw the sony sub and said that they dont stock them any more cause they r shit.

15EXN
Post #33

lol

for one i have communicated with people that actually work at xplod as i did some promo work in a different area of sony

u will find that northfield stoped stocking them along with other places purely because of profit margins

think about it

there is so much more competition with sony as every1 stocks it so the profit margins are that much less, hence of course retailers are gonna say its crap when they can make more profit on it elsewhere

saying all this don't buy american shit either

german is the only way to go - BLAUPUNKT IS YOUR FRIEND

~*b*~
Post #34

Yeah there are a lot of awesome euro brands out there.. you can also try Alphasonik. They definitely are worth paying their money for.. there are also a few other brands that have just been released in australia. Its worth having a look around first before buying into just any old brand.. do some research wink.gif

thumbsup.gif

shonkas88
Post #35

yeah i got $3000 to spend and yeah
so i wont go for sony because people arnt going for them and i might go for pioneer wat about rockford forsgate
are they any good

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