P-plater Exemption Form - wanting to know it anyone can apply and get a exemption form.  

Slav

Check here.

Click Link

benfalvey

If in qld and your said wrx is less than 125kw/ton then you can apply. Change in recent laws or something. Or just by a shitter for you p's and get a wrx when your on your opens

Kiteal

Not going to get an exemption unless its for work purposes only then you'll only be able to drive it on set hours of the day, or if your family owns the car and its your only means on reasonable transport, so if you live near a train station or bus stop you'll probably be rejected. Only people who get given exemptions are mechanics basically.

90GXLiberty

I think you're pushing sh!t up hill to be honest. ( not to be rude or anything ).

And even if you did, and you bought the car. Your insurance would be holyfunk high. I had a mate who was 18 and this is before the p plate laws came in and he was paying almost 5grand a year on insurance.

splinter743

I have a mate who drives a 2003 wrx on his red p's. He got the exemption by filling out the form and attaching a spec sheet he got from Subaru which showed it was under 125kw/tonne.

The exemption is specifically for that wrx though. So maybe find one that you want to buy and file for an exemption for it. Think my mate said it took just over a week to get the approval in the mail. Once you get that then your all sweet to drive it.

JakeSRIT

i got a quick question, im on my opens so it doesnt apply to me but just curious, if you bought a car on ur Ps and it was over 125kw/tonne and u had it limited througha tune or somethign and then could prove its 125kw/tonne could u drive it on ur Ps without the exemption form?

mark1414

No because its based off the factory specs.

Sharpy

Most of it has been said, and a lot of sh!t information in here too.

First thing to be said, as a young p plater, WRX insurance is going to destroy you.

Second thing is you don't NEED a wrx. There are heaps of NA versions available.

If you insist, here is the info you require mate.

If the car is under 125kw/tonne as per manufacturers specifications, you can apply under the moderately powered turbo/supercharged vehicle application.

Link Here: http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Licensing/Gettin...e-vehicles.aspx

You don't need to own it, but you need to apply for a specific car, and it needs to be rego'd. (you need to include the rego number, and the VIN). If approved you can ONLY DRIVE THAT WRX!

not all wrx's.

If it is over 125kw/tonne, you need to show it is for work, its the only possible car, severe hardship blah blah (also explained under the above link)

Check the redbook site to see if the car you're looking at meets requirements http://tmr.redbook.com.au/search

Don't forget the fee to lodge your application.

90GXLiberty

Sharpy,

You honestly should just have replies for these and other situations saved in a word pad in its own little desktop file for topics like this. You seem to repeat yourself a lot ahah.

"search button" or "google" ftw?

Sharpy

That......


.... is a funking good idea.....

...... that I will probably forget to do..... hahahhaha

90.PSI

Im on my opens and i dont belive this law. they bought in this law to stop p platers driving performance cars but now they can get exempt and it sounds pretty easy too. So lets just say you did buy a wrx that is under the 125kw per tonn you get an exemption to drive it, you rip the stock turbo out and put on say a VF 34 or 35 turbo on it and tune it to 15 psi it will clearly be over the 125kw per tonn mark and still look stock to the naked eye and to any cop who pulls him over wont be able to tell/ prove that it is over that power to weight ratio? so we are back at square one or is there a law to prevent this from happening?

truffles

Well V8's and higher capcity rotary engines are still out, so it's not back at square one. I do see the irony in the fact that I got my license 2 months after the new p plate laws came in and then the next year after I get my open, they go and change the game. I do feel this amendment has positive and negative consequences. It came about because a lot of cars are using turbochargers for fuel saving purposes as opposed to power applications, so there was a need for p platers to want to drive a newer, safer car that was cheaper to run. A number of P platers are taking advantage of this, but it's for moderately powered turbocharged cars (Veloster, golf gti ect), so I don't see the problem with that aspect. I drove a 184kw, 140kw/tonne S2000 on my P's and that was legal before the amendments. Eh.

TwinCam16

Please don't post incorrect information.

gutless

Soooooo many dribble posts in the first half of this thread....

this thread reminds me of the Epic P Plate debate thread created by espress because he wanted a Wrx lol.
For the "Alriiight awesome!" Factor, these new exemptions are pretty cool but the exploitations that people can achieve with a few sneaky upgrades does not sound safe! Somewhere out there, some kid is doing naughty things with a modded RB20DET

My opinion is that your P Plate years should be solely concentrated on driving and learning as much as possible to further yourself as a driver on our roads and not pull off Mong P Plate moves/habits that they never work on(Cue: oh but ive seen people on their opens drive like idiots blah blah whinge whinge boo hoo Eat.a.bag.of.dicks!).
I did 150,000Ks + on my Ps in a little Red FWD Impreza and i certainly did enough stupid stuff as a teenager with a car when i wasnt even a car enthusiast at the time.

OP:Look harder and buy a normal car and be normal!

And thats my tired 2cent Ramble.

tumeke-maori

Bro, i think anyone can apply, it cost me $35 i think which is non-refundable should your application be denied. You also need to fit certain criteria to be eligible. for example, i applied for an exemption to go from learners to p-plate. I was granted the exemption & because i'm over 25, i went straight to green p-plate so i have no restrictions. i can drive v8's, turbos, etc. To be eligible for the exemption, from memory. you need to show that. by not being granted the exemption you will be put under great hardship. eg: 1) Need to drive to & from work, & during work, between jobs etc.
2) Medical reasons: you need to drive, yourself or a family member to & from doctor appointments on a regular basis.
3)To & from a place of study, tafe, uni etc. You also need to show that public transport is not a viable option.

This is what i did.
1st; I got my boss to write a letter stating that i was an important member of the team & that i needed a p-plate license to drive to & from work, & also during the work day to & from jobs. (if we finished a job early i had to drive to the next job) That ruled public transport out as an option. My boss also wrote that i would lose my job, should i not get the exemption.

2nd; I wrote a letter explaining that I have a son whom i have 'court ordered' shared care of, so i needed a p-plate to drop him off & pick him up from school. I explained that circumstances had changed & the arrangement previously in place would no longer work due to the fact, my son had changed schools, & i had moved house. I also took a copy of the 'court orders' in as extra evidence to back-up my letter.

The lady at the Transport Department, took 1 look at my application & granted me the exemption immediately, but i did make sure i had every base covered. Anyway bro, hope this helps & good-luck, I know how it feels, its ratshit. Laterz,

RASTA

TwinCam16

You do realise that if you are over the age of 25, you don't have power restrictions anyway....

astorey

i swear i'll get rid of the screamer soon.

pat_b08

I hardly think a Golf GTI is what they are talking about when saying moderately powered. More likely the TSI versions which are 1.4L. The GTI is more power than I would feel safe giving to a P Plater...

RB25_lovin

if you are going to do it get a cheap silvia something you can afford to pay insurance on. or a 180

astorey

or just don't get full comp insurance because it's worth <5k

truffles

Golf GTI's are not banned and can have applications lodged.

http://tmr.redbook.com.au/results/?Ns=p_Ma...o=30&Nne=15

176OES

Lol.... just LOL


Ask yourself.... what type of people buy those cars?

Ask yourself... what type of people are the highest crash risk

Now compare answers.

Basically, if you're young and you want a perfomance vehicle, be prepared to pay a high price because *drum roll* you are a high risk

End of story, no one cares how cool you are, not even insurers

90GXLiberty

im 23 years old, I recently bought a 09 xr6 FG ute with 31k's. My insurance through swann is 2200 a year, $200 a month because i am young, high risk, and drive an XR6 ute which in there eyes is a performance vehicle.

90.PSI

I just bought my crappy little daily, perfect p plater car, 1995 cc lancer coupe, 1.5 carby 6.5L per 100km and insurence was $219 a year, yes my TURBO lancer is a lot more but it also has 5 times more power, seriously dude, buy something cheap that still looks ok, save your coin for when you are off your p's then go buy a GTR or something, or if your this way incline buy a cheap daily and buy a project car, work on it in your spare time, smash heaps of coin into that so when you get your opens flog off your cheap daily and you'll have a bull s!#tly nuts car straight away, not only that you will appreciate it more to cause you know all the time and money that went into it, and with this kind of repect your not as likely to get in it and flog it all day everyday cause you'll be worried that something will break or damage something and cost you more money in repairing it that spending time driving it. some of the things i have learnt the hard way over the last 15 years.

purepunani

You're getting boned pretty hard lol.
Had the maloo since new, last year and the year before that was $1100premium through justcars. 25 currently. This year since its been a couple of years from xx offenses, I pay $750~.
How they came up with that price is beyond me, but I wasn't one to argue, just paid the money and smiled while doing it.

90GXLiberty

Yeah sucks the cawk dude.

I am going to get some quotes. Thinking NRMA or Suncorp.

ThunderBolt

Check how much excess you will pay if you need to claim. You will probably find it is a quite a bit, hence why the premium is fairly low.

astorey

I have like $1200 excess (400 of it is "age premium" which may not be added on but i would guess certainly would be) for my turbo 32 4 door as a 20 year old p-plater. Didn't bother with full comp as i got it for chips anyways.

purepunani

Ofcourse it is, it's huge. But you pay a given premium a year, not a given excess.
Only time you pay excess is if you're at fault. Works out to be a 25% chance that you have to pay excess.
Works out in my favour.

176OES

If you're holding the steering wheel and run up the arse of the car ahead of you, then yes - count on it.

But if you (not you personally... any <25yr old) end up parking at Westfields to catch the latest Twilight flick with your mates and the mother of all hailstorms gives your car a fisting in the car park... well, thats gonna happen wether you're 18 or 80 yrs old.. so you wouldnt expect an age excess to apply there seeeing as its irrelevant to the issue

mark1414

But he said he didn't get full comp. So if he has to use his 3rd party property it will be when he has a crash and is at fault so he will pay the age excess. Assuming he didn't get fire and theft, which come to think of it would be a bad assumption if you own a skyline.

176OES

oh yeah, my bad... completely missed the non-comprehensive bit

But I guess it helps as a bit of general info for those <25 with full comp in relation to age excesses

BlueSwiftGTi

Wow $200 a month for an N/A XR6? I'm a green P Plater driving a Turbo Coupe making 150kw and I'm paying $102 a month. I'd understand that sort of premium if you were driving an XR6 Turbo but not N/A! Maybe they get written off at a hectic rate.

truffles

I'm guessing because the valuation of the car would be quite high.