Vz Alloytec To Ls1 - Whats involved and how much?  

Not much.

Engine, box, ecu, loom and a bit of BCM work.

Be ready for the uneducated crew to jump in and start the "just sell it and buy one already done" comments.

23rd April 2012 - 01:05 AM  Reply  Quote

As long as it's the current or newer model engine to your model car. Should be alright. Probably the tail shaft, K frame, engine, loom, ECU, gearbox, cross member, all those usual things to doing that.

Wouldn't know about the Body Control Module so I will not comment on that one. I just figured it controlled everything to do with the body/lights and things like that. Not the actual engine.

23rd April 2012 - 03:17 AM  Reply  Quote

well if your planning on selling it why not just replace it with another V6 will be cheaper and honestly your wont really make any money buy putting a ls1 in it

23rd April 2012 - 04:05 AM  Reply  Quote

It really wouldnt be worthwhile to transplant a stock LS and associated running gear. All you'll have is Sv6 resale (if you ever decide to sell), you'll have a vehicle that will end up costing you quite a bit more than if you were to buy the same year model SS.
The better options would be to:
a) Sell your vehicle as is, and purchase a different vehicle (SS if that's you're preference)
b) Replace the alloyanchor with another one (can be had relatively cheap), and keep it or sell it or whatever you want.
c) If you decide to transplant an LS, sit down and plan a proper build, however it won't be cheap.

23rd April 2012 - 05:57 AM  Reply  Quote

just sell it and buy another.... ohh wait

:-P

23rd April 2012 - 07:23 PM  Reply  Quote

in all real perspective your better off fixing the engine you have now and then buying an ss ute not the perfect idea but its not like its a hq ute with a 202 and you can just go throw a 350 in for the fuck of it

23rd April 2012 - 08:45 PM  Reply  Quote

If you can find a dirt cheap wrecked car with the LS motor and can transfer parts over your self then your set. Any more then that and it's uneconomical and your better off fixing the current motor or replacing like for like.

23rd April 2012 - 11:33 PM  Reply  Quote

And learn nothing in the process...

Not everything is about being a Jew.

23rd April 2012 - 11:57 PM  Reply  Quote

Ok so heres a basic list of what you'll need. First a decent engine, gearbox box and wiring loom, probably something from a vy or newer as the vt and vx ls1s had alot of issues like piston slap and oil pressure drops. A second hand vy or vz v8 pcm and bcm from the same car as they are linked and would cost more to get them tuned to talk to each other then it would to buy a second hand pair. A new vz ss fly by wire module and accelerator pedal box as the v6s ran a different step up to the v8s. You'll need to upgrade your brakes, the v6s ones are too small and wouldnt pass engineering. V8 ss front struts and shocks, v8 engine mounts, t56 gearbox mounts, V8 exhaust system including headers and cats, V8 radiator and hoses, twin thermo fan setup, V8 tailshaft, the v6 one would bolt up but wouldnt handle the added torque. A v8 ute lsd diff, i would recommend going a higher ratio diff, the vz ss utes came out with a 3.7:1, id go a 3.9:1 as it wont cost you a whole lot more but will vastly improve the acceleration of your car. You'll need to upgrade the fuel system, best way would be to just replace the v6 fuel pump with a v8 one. Lastly all the little stuff like loom and hose extentions, differnet fuse setups, clearance issues, etc etc.

Even if you do all the work yourself your still looking at atleast 7- 8 grand maybe more plus the cost of engineering and mod plating it. Thats unless you can find a wrecked car that has all or most the parts in working order, still they are rare in that form as they usually get stripped straight away and theyre not usually cheap.

when alls said and done your probs better off fixing or replacing the engine you have in it and then either sell it and buy an ss or throw a blower or turbo kit on it.

24th April 2012 - 10:57 PM  Reply  Quote

not worth the grief, easier ti fix than convert, financially, a sv6 ute, is still a fn sv6 ute

conversions are really only worth it when picking up a whole wreck some ftard has blown a bucket of the agc credit line on then deep sixed it at high speed, wreckers dont want to know, the habib crew can't rebirth it, but everything in place to do the full job if you want to go that path, go to a few auctions, you will learn the ropes.

BTW anyone who uses the words "my mechanic" and says they are into cars, they should just get a camry and fk off, you can work on them or not, fn simple.

27th April 2012 - 02:52 AM  Reply  Quote

http://www.boostclassifieds.com.au/advert/...R-for-Sale.html

$1500...easy fix and a good find .

27th April 2012 - 06:03 AM  Reply  Quote

That adds another level of complexity, I wonder what the difference is?, possibly block drilled a different pattern for the 6 speed.

For the price it is worth looking into what the differences are, as you say, not so common, I can understand your thoughts to going LS conversion, but I don't think it will be a cheap or easy excersize, vs fixing or replacing the alloytec.

BTW the "my mechanic" reference was regarding the knob that crpstra was deal with when trying to get the motor, it appears may have upset lovetappers, possibly some mechanical bromance I stepped on, lol.

In my dealings with fixing, buying or selling cars or parts, over the many years, I have found most who use that line, will just be a PITA to deal with, rather that knowing or researching what they are doing, they just rely on the advice of someone who derives a living from their ignorance.

29th April 2012 - 12:01 AM  Reply  Quote

What's the big deal?

It might cost you extra. But what you learn by picking up a spanner and actually using it rather than just handing over cash, is invaluable.

That's what people now days are missing... getting their fingers dirty.

Doing S13 DE+T conversions, RB20 into S13 (kills me to say that) etc etc It was all done by curiosity and having a go. Everytime there was clowns that would say "awwwwwwwwwwwwwww it's not worth it, it wont be worth anything, just buy something with the right motor to start with" etc etc... you know what? 99% of the time, those people are the ones with the mechanical aptitude of a monkey with down syndrome.

/rant.

29th April 2012 - 12:26 AM  Reply  Quote

It's a little more involved now days compared to the old stuff your used to Twincam. A lot more then just a simple engine swap like you make it out to be. Don't get me wrong I know what your saying though.

29th April 2012 - 02:55 AM  Reply  Quote

Now days?

Dude... I'm still doing this shit these days....

What do you mean it's not like it used to be?

29th April 2012 - 02:57 AM  Reply  Quote