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wbtonner
Post #106

QUOTE (75 KINGSWOOD @ Jan 9 2012, 01:47 PM) *
yeah the belt came off the other week, replaced the pully and it was all sweet. Best thing i have done was buy your engine

Running sweet now with the Auto? I've got the manual here if your after a change later down the line. tongue.gif
Did you end up changing the cam?

Sorry for derail*

75 KINGSWOOD
Post #107

QUOTE (wbtonner @ Jan 10 2012, 04:44 PM) *
Running sweet now with the Auto? I've got the manual here if your after a change later down the line. tongue.gif
Did you end up changing the cam?

Sorry for derail*

Yeah runs better with the cam, but i still havent replaced the stall convertor, hopefully that will be done in the next couple of weeks. Then after that ill be saving for a doner car for the LS conversion

AZNPRIDE
Post #108

coming along nicely mate

aussiemk2
Post #109

have you done/do you need to change the master cylinder in these after doing the disc upgrade?

Be-Hating
Post #110

QUOTE (aussiemk2 @ Jan 11 2012, 08:16 PM) *
have you done/do you need to change the master cylinder in these after doing the disc upgrade?


Yes, I'll be putting a booster on it.

gutless
Post #111

Engine Looks Mint!

nightcrawler
Post #112

Looking good bro , air cleaner is facing the wrong way though , just saying lol

Be-Hating
Post #113

QUOTE (nightcrawler @ Jan 12 2012, 06:58 PM) *
Looking good bro , air cleaner is facing the wrong way though , just saying lol


Sif I'd face it towards the battery!

Slick Lad
Post #114

looking good, cant wait to see it done

aussiemk2
Post #115

QUOTE (Be-Hating @ Jan 11 2012, 11:22 PM) *
Yes, I'll be putting a booster on it.



i was more refering to, do these have a different master cylinder or a proportioning valve for the disc brake front compared to the drum front.

Be-Hating
Post #116

No, It's all the same.

Rookie
Post #117

Your Dad's done a good job Joel tongue.gif

racerphill
Post #118

QUOTE (Be-Hating @ Jan 12 2012, 10:03 PM) *
No, It's all the same.


Ummm, you sure?

nightcrawler
Post #119

QUOTE (Be-Hating @ Jan 12 2012, 10:03 PM) *
No, It's all the same.

sorry but its not

racerphill
Post #120

QUOTE (nightcrawler @ Jan 13 2012, 09:25 AM) *
sorry but its not


This!

74QEE
Post #121

Yep, differant proportioning valve required for disc conversion. Ive heard they are quite difficult to find, dont know if there is any repro ones avaliable. Mine was lucky enough to be a disc front car from factory.

Be-Hating
Post #122

QUOTE (Rookie @ Jan 12 2012, 11:27 PM) *
Your Dad's done a good job Joel tongue.gif


Hur hurr hurrr.

QUOTE (racerphill @ Jan 13 2012, 08:18 AM) *
Ummm, you sure?



QUOTE (nightcrawler @ Jan 13 2012, 09:25 AM) *
sorry but its not


I was referring to the master cylinder.

CAM-327
Post #123

Pretty sure the master cylinder is not the same, same with the porportioning valve.

Was looking to get a WB Deville diff, and i would need a proportioning valve and new master..

Cheers, looks like she's going sweet. thumbsup.gif

Be-Hating
Post #124

QUOTE (CAM-327 @ Jan 13 2012, 05:01 PM) *
Pretty sure the master cylinder is not the same, same with the porportioning valve.

Was looking to get a WB Deville diff, and i would need a proportioning valve and new master..

Cheers, looks like she's going sweet. thumbsup.gif


I'm pretty sure they're the same. From looking at my drum and disc brake master cylinder there's no difference.

And with the WB, It was probably different because they had the RTS????

CAM-327
Post #125

Have checked this out before and they are a different part, have had a WB Deville disc brake all round master and a HQ disc front/drum rear master side by side and there are slight differences. Haven't had a drum all round master next to a disc front/drum rear master.. so i couldn't tell you exactly what is different, however they are two different parts.

Be-Hating
Post #126

QUOTE (CAM-327 @ Jan 13 2012, 05:45 PM) *
Have checked this out before and they are a different part, have had a WB Deville disc brake all round master and a HQ disc front/drum rear master side by side and there are slight differences. Haven't had a drum all round master next to a disc front/drum rear master.. so i couldn't tell you exactly what is different, however they are two different parts.


Thats because wb`s have different master cylinders to hq. Im using one from a hj (pretty sure) so theres no difference. I dobt know why your comparing hq with wb?

Be-Hating
Post #127

fail post.

Monaro454
Post #128

QUOTE (Be-Hating @ Jan 13 2012, 06:12 PM) *
YOU CHANGED IT, SO I AM REPLYING TO THAT SILLY RTS COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!?



sorry mate, this is the fail post!!

RTS had nothing to do with the braking systems. it was all to do with the positioning of components of the suspension system (therefore, RTS stands for Radial Tuned Suspension).

you will find Joel that the brake system you bought off my friend had booster, master cylinder AND proportioning valve.

you will def need to fit the prop valve you got off Trent cos different braking systems need different pressure distribution to operate correctly. so.... drums all round will have a distribution that is different to that of disc/drum based on the effectiveness of the individual systems

pointless discussing disc/disc cos this isn't part of the equasion.

later models (HZ's and Commo's) have different master cylinders because the proportioning valve is built into the master cylinder.

this said, on earlier models it is completely possible that the master cylinders are very similar or even the same unit for this reason.

long winded but it gets the point across.

Ash.


nope.... here it is!!!!! :

QUOTE
And with the WB, It was probably different because they had the RTS????

74QEE
Post #129

Fucking kids. Should stick to Hondas.

Be-Hating
Post #130

QUOTE (Monaro454 @ Jan 13 2012, 06:52 PM) *
sorry mate, this is the fail post!!

RTS had nothing to do with the braking systems. it was all to do with the positioning of components of the suspension system (therefore, RTS stands for Radial Tuned Suspension).

you will find Joel that the brake system you bought off my friend had booster, master cylinder AND proportioning valve.

you will def need to fit the prop valve you got off Trent cos different braking systems need different pressure distribution to operate correctly. so.... drums all round will have a distribution that is different to that of disc/drum based on the effectiveness of the individual systems

pointless discussing disc/disc cos this isn't part of the equasion.

later models (HZ's and Commo's) have different master cylinders because the proportioning valve is built into the master cylinder.

this said, on earlier models it is completely possible that the master cylinders are very similar or even the same unit for this reason.

long winded but it gets the point across.

Ash.


nope.... here it is!!!!! :


I have shit all knowledge about RTS (Obviously) which is why I said that. I thought that because of the suspension set up change, The booster would have been different to compensate for that change.

Then I realised, Hence the edit.

QUOTE (74QEE @ Jan 13 2012, 07:08 PM) *
Fucking kids. Should stick to Hondas.


Fuuuu Jay, Don't you have some rocks to be sifting through? tongue.gif

74QEE
Post #131

No i dont get paid enough to do that

racerphill
Post #132

The thing that annoys people is not that you don't know stuff, but that when people point out mistakes, you want to make out like you know better when clearly you don't.
There's nothing wrong with learning and taking advice, or even making mistakes.
I've been around and worked on cars for probably almost as long as you've been alive and there's still plenty for ne to learn,.
Not having a go at you or anything, just trying to help you out!
Keep up the good work, but just be open to people who are trying to help you.
Looking forward to cruising with you and your Q!

74QEE
Post #133

sell it and buy a honda

Be-Hating
Post #134

QUOTE (racerphill @ Jan 14 2012, 03:22 PM) *
The thing that annoys people is not that you don't know stuff, but that when people point out mistakes, you want to make out like you know better when clearly you don't.
There's nothing wrong with learning and taking advice, or even making mistakes.
I've been around and worked on cars for probably almost as long as you've been alive and there's still plenty for ne to learn,.
Not having a go at you or anything, just trying to help you out!
Keep up the good work, but just be open to people who are trying to help you.
Looking forward to cruising with you and your Q!


Yeah fair enough but I don't see how in my previous posts I've made out that I know better but if it did come across like that then my mistake.

I have no problem taking advice or even criticism, Seriously. I'm not trying to make out that I'm some big headed expert.

Anyway, Keeping it OT:

The new rotors and bearings, master cyl and some of the parts that were painted today.

Should be on wheels tomorrow only thing I'm waiting for is my brake lines.



QUOTE (74QEE @ Jan 14 2012, 04:10 PM) *
sell it and buy a honda


You and this honda shit!

Be-Hating
Post #135

Got it on wheels today, But it wont be for long because We'll be ripping out the springs again as it looks even higher then what it was!

So if anyone's got any 2- 2.5" lowered front springs, Let me know.




racerphill
Post #136

You realise that once those springs settle, and the weight of the front clip is back on the car, that it will sit lower?

If you ordered the correct springs for what you are after, maybe give it time, get the car back together and then make a decision?

Phill

Be-Hating
Post #137

QUOTE (racerphill @ Jan 16 2012, 07:41 AM) *
You realise that once those springs settle, and the weight of the front clip is back on the car, that it will sit lower?

If you ordered the correct springs for what you are after, maybe give it time, get the car back together and then make a decision?

Phill


Yeah I'm aware of that. The thing is that the springs I put in where ones I had laying around here for a while and they were lower then the stock 6cyl springs so I thought I'll chuck them in and see what happens.

Turns out they're v8 springs.

Be-Hating
Post #138

Took the front and rear springs and shocks out today and it seems the springs I bought off here don't fit because they Coil in too much. So I'll be buying new ones of those and also some new shocks for the front again as one was accidently stabbed trying to get it out.

Picking up the front springs and calliper hoses tomorrow and hopefully some rear springs and front shocks if I can find someone who has them in stock.

Comparison pics:
Even if these did fit. It would have been riding on bump stops.



Shocks in the back and my ghetto jack stands.


OLSKOOL64
Post #139

QUOTE (Be-Hating @ Jan 20 2012, 07:36 PM) *


Alien cat..... eek3.gif

Be-Hating
Post #140

Getting it on wheels, Take two.

I Bought some monroe shocks and king springs for the front. And some pedders springs for the back. As well as a few other bits and bobs.

And of course, Much like everything else on this car the calliper hoses I bought didn't fit. They're JUST too short. So I'll be getting new ones of those tomorrow.







Sits nice now, Compared to the other picture like this:


Comparison to the stato:


Before and after:

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