Gq Patrol Or 60 Series Cruiser - whats best  

Tolez34

can get a much nicer jackaroo for that kinda money, id want to budget atleast 10 for a patrol or cruiser to get a decent one

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/privat...id=128C4DFCF019

tonkalux85

with that sort of funds get an 80 series cant go wrong with them factory with 7 seats all round good truck

EssR20

7k can pick you up a nice 4.2 turbo diesel. The head problem your referring too is the 4.2 petrol (tb42) and that's only a drama when running gas.

benfalvey

Mate the 60 series and gq are 2 different leagues.
60 series are leaf and gq coil hence the ride difference.
Get a diesel.patrol and youll never look back.
Or an 80 series, the landcruiser thats comparable with the gq

tuff33

id be going a deisel 80 series , u wont look back mate

MJ80

Not for 7K, nothing worth having anyway.

Id buy a 1FZ powered 80 series, better engine and body/interior/everything than the GQ.

no more holdens

GQs have 7 seater
Head issues are majority 2.8 GUs or some 2.8 GQs (rather the RD28 motor)
Theres absolutely bugger all issues with the 4.2 petrol GQ unless their LPG converted
A 4.2 diesel GQ in any good condition for 7K ???
Not lately, 10K or beyond,even a late 4.2 petrol GQ thats any good wont change owners for 7K
80 series cruiser to GQ is the comparison not a 60 series
GQ coil spring, except some early GQ leafy utes
Turbo diesel 80 series for 7K , never

nightcrawler

Ok so is the 4.2 petrol in the Patrol a more robust motor than whats in a 80 series ? I really dont want a diesel . whatever I buy will need six seats . the older model cruisers were prone to rust out are the newer ones the same ? and is there anything I should be looking for that are common problems with either the GQ or 80 series ?

MJ80

No the 1FZ toyota petrol shits all over the TB42 in every way and is regarded as one of the most bombproof petrol motors around, they like a drink, but still not as much as a TB42, go better too.

Yeah forget diesel, you cant afford a good one anyway @ 7K.

The 80s is well known for not rusting out, they did a good job rust proofing them.

layney

a gq is 100 times better than a 60 and an 80.
A tb42 is a great motor and tough as, the only place the gq's gets rust is around the back windows.
Gq's have the best running gear the only thing thats as good is a gu, dont touch an 60 or 80 series the parts will kill you.
You just have to look at comp trucks most are nissan cos there just better.
Thats just my two cents ive owned both and the patrols are better buy a mile

MJ80

That is a fucking all time lol statement.

aw damn, the whole quote is too long to put in my sig.

layney

fuck your a clown mj80, that'll fit in your sig

usb

rust wil occur in more places in a gq depending on what sort of life its had including rear sliding windows,roof gutters,guards,and driver/passenger foot pans.

MJ80

Sure does.

mark1989

considered a 75 series troopy?
mines done 430 thousand ks (diesel of course) and still going strong and with aftermarket suspenion and 33s its actually pretty smooth on the road and good offroad and good for towing, can be brought quite cheap and tough as nails

nightcrawler

Ok so whats the better bus in the bush ? standard with maybe a set of 33's fitted , will mainly be used for towing the boat with the odd beach launch and fairly tame 4 wheel driving

sa92

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no more holdens

Wether a petrol 80 series or a TB42 GQ patrol, they both love the drink , not a little ALOT
IF ya think V8s love the juice, 6 cylinder petrol 4x4s , drink more
To the tune of 4-5 Ks to the litre
Wack a trailer on the back or give it heaps of right pedal, and watch that gauge drop dramatically

MJ will always go the 80 series,ill always go a GQ !!!
Different tastes and brand loyalty i suppose

If its economy you need only the diesel versions will do this

Get your money in hand , and start looking , theres ALOT of shit out there in both the 80 series and the GQ
For something thats great value in either brand , theres a good dozen or so people on the lookout with cash ready to buy
Be cashed, do your research,look everywhere, online , local papers,under every rock
Good versions in both camps come very seldom for sale and IF any good , usually are snapped up in a matter of hours, not days or weeks
I spend over 6 months looking for my GQ till i found one worthy of buying, and i looked at alot ( 2 years ago) that were advertised over 10 grand

GQ rust issues
Rear window sliders if its a 7 seater, even when they rust out the frames usually they are replaced with fixed windows
Roof gutters along both sides, around winscreen frames , both top and bottom,radiator support panel, and front body mount area, look down beside the radiator, front floor section , even in behind the front kick panels
The electric windows play up alot , as with most things on a 20 year old car
IF its an auto GQ your chasin , only in the TB42 (but a few,like a hand full of TD42 autos, but very rare)
Ensure the auto shifts good, fluid colour is good, or itll cost a packet to get it replaced or rebuilt

Patrol 4x4.com if ya wanna know more
MJ80 , could have a link to a toymota (like that MJ) website for ya

lil_bobby_260

Coming from the OWNER of a GQ and have spent months driving a diesel 80 series around too -
Hmm hard to say.
You cant just go 'oh this is a better truck, buy this' because there is more to it than that. And layney youre an idiot - how does people using GQs as comp trucks have anything to do with what this guy wants to use his vehicle for?
From my experience - THe 80 series cruisers (dont bother with a 60) are plusher and more car like than a GQ, and do have a better engine and drivetrain, but are much more expensive on parts if necessary. GQ's benefit from being cheaper to buy, cheaper on parts, but arent as nice to drive or as comfortable. A GQ patrol is also more prone to rust than an 80 series cruiser.
I got a GQ as they are cheap to buy, cheap to modify, and very common if you ever need second hand parts. If i wanted something to drive a bit more sedately (ie less risk of damaging the vehicle) i would go a cruiser as they are more comfortable etc, but as it was i didnt want to buy one knowing how much more it would cost in the LIKELY event that i do some major damage offroad.

nightcrawler

Thanks for the feed back fellas , sounds like its six of one and half a dozen of the other . I have owned 4x4's before so I know all about how thirsty they are , and how they handle like a house brick on the road . But I drive 308 powered Kingswoods for dailys so it wont be much different lol . now I am currently looking at GQ and 80 series wagons but both are duel fuel which seems to be a no no , both in very good condition both priced at $7500 . Are landcruiser parts as expensive as people say ? and which is the easiest for the home mechanic to service/repair

EAT891

its the same thing over and over toyota or nissan test drive both and depending on what YOU like go with that one but id defenatly go 80 over a 60 for that money.. mate just got a petrol 80 tidy as for 8000 ..

nightcrawler

so are all 80 series wagons 7 seaters ?

MJ80

You can put 8 in them, have done many times, its tight in the back but the seatbelts ect are there for three in the back.

no more holdens

Most 4x4 petrols ie the 80 series cruiser and the 4.2 petrol nissan,will drink more juice than a 308 holden
IF its a seemingly stock carb 308 holden the 4x4s in either will give ya a big shake down or probably a hiding
Theyre very quick for what they are
Best part is , they will tow more than a 308 kingswood will ever dream of , if towing is your thing

Do the math regarding just getting a straight petrol or a dual fuel rig
The LPG rebate should be still around , thats a government funded 1600 towards the LPG conversion
This depending where the LPG tank goes , might cost you $500 outta pocket or maybe 2 grand to convert

Maybe just go petrol , and see how it goes Vs the Ks you do
Then down the track get a new LPG system fitted

Every dual fuel GQ i looked at back when , had issues

MJ80

I might have missed it, but why cant OP buy a N/A diesel GQ ? overcomes fuel issues right there, and you have a diesel, win win.

Might not be able to pick up a super tidy one like you would buying the cheaper petrol's but worth it imo.

lil_bobby_260

Honestly there is no harm in running gas, I highly recommend it, as long as you run the right spark plugs and have an upper cylinder lubricant setup, and just make sure your cooling system is up to scratch. It's no big deal. Drive a petrol 80 or GQ around for a week and you will be thankful for the gas. A 308 is a proud compared to these 4wds dude.

no more holdens

Nothin at all wrong with the GQ TD42 diesels
They are unfortunately the prime , and have a massive demand base
This is forcing the prices skyward
IF its a reasonably low K , well kept example and a later end model GQ, ya wont get one in your budget
The early TB42 (petrol) GQs are the cheap petrol version, the later end TB42 EFI are up there in prices
TD42 economy 1o-15L/100Ks (depending)

You could go an RB30 or a RD28 diesel
These are the cheaper end GQ

nightcrawler

fuck there is some buckets of shit out there , had the shit knocked out of them or rusty as . Looking at a 85 sahara cruiser tomorrow , the bloke who owns has just spent $12000 on it , reco motor , reco gearbox , micky T wheels with new 33's . Looks tidy from the photos and is a 7 seater , Oh and did I mention its running a 350 Chev , fuel economy fuck fuel economy lol

no more holdens

Your right,there is ALOT of shit out there
Just make sure whatever you do buy ,that any mods are aproved
Even IF a bodgy RWC is supplied ,you are responsible then for all the mods being the new owner

nightcrawler

well that one was another dud , the mechanicals were great but the body was full of rust . Looked at another one a 86 Sahara 7 seater 12 ht turbo diesel but its a auto and has more scratshes on its body than a naked man in a blackberry bush

no more holdens

Those turbo diesel AUTO 80 series ,are pritty good
Mate pulls a 26 Foot van with one
The thing will accelorate up hills , pulling the van
Just run a remote trans cooler if you get an auto and you tow with it

BLKWDW

I have a 60 series cruiser and wouldnt swap it for a gq or 80 series. Its drives like a truck which i love. takes me, the 3 kids and wife out bush on weekends no worries and with a seat upgrade is comfortable on the longer touring trips as well. 2h is slow but nothing a turbo wont fix and getting around 11.5L/100ks im not complaining bout the fuel either. 7K will near get you a factory t/d 60 series sahara. Leaf springs rnt that bad and with the right spring and shock combo can be quite comfortable and give you plenty of flex as well.

Gerry Giraffe

I don't get why there is so much hate for 60ser cruisers, my mate bought a gq just after i bought my fj62, they were the same year model, stock suspension, and road tires, we went the same tracks, struggled at the same points and there wasn't a climb that he couldn't get through that i couldn't either. The only difference is how much we spent on buying them.

Honestly i think it comes down to brand prefernce and how far your going to go with modifications, obviously for an all out 4wd where your after massive flex and stuff then the GQ/80 is the pick. 60's arnt as ruff and uncomfortable as made out to be and are just as capable as the GQ to an extent.

Don't get me wrong if i had the money i would have had a TD 80ser.

nightcrawler

just about given up on getting a 60 series they all seem to be rusted out hulks , looked at a couple of more GQ's but they both had real hard lives going by the undersides of them . Looking at a 97 Jeep Cherokee monday , any thoughts on these ?