What grinds your gears??? - Get it off your chest here  

Autumn_86

are you serious?

its 326hp & not hard to believe

Baz

Rofl, with the 2871 it was around 250, now has a HKS gtss

Some supporting mods are, powerfc, 740xx injectors, z32, 17psi, cams, adjustable cam gears, fmic, zorst, just a few to name, I'll be sure to send you a dyno readout when it's had it's final tune, and 240kw is 321hp

KeeWee Kustoms

Obviously, it depends on what converter you use! You seem to have had to apend an awful lot of money to get those figures. Ive never understood that...why not just buy something with grunt in the first place??

Baz

Mark Rogers did the tune on the car, & I'm sure he can vouch for the power it was putting out, Not sure if he surfs these parts anymore, Maybe delazy can remember?

Baz

Not the best pic but it's also a half tidy engine bay :\

toffy

well he did! fyi 240rwk in a 1200kg car has a better power to weight ratio than a 1850kg ve clubsport (vaguely they were quoted to do mid to low 13sec qtr mile? ) and the price difference? and it's pretty easy to guess which handles better

Webbey64

V8's have their place but HP per cube VS moneys spent i think our old mates in japan had it all sussed.

postaldood

LOL I have both a Turbo 4 cyl (4g63 VR4) and a N/A V8 (VX SS) and the V8 is sweet for its torque, but the 4cyl just eats it.
Add in year of production, 1992 Vs 2002 and they were doing all the right things, a long time ago.
Then add in purchase price's and basically, bang for buck, nothing will beat an import.

However, i have put a lot of money into the VR4 so it'd want to eat it, but i havn't spent more on it than the SS cost me.

KeeWee Kustoms

There are a lot of turbo 4s that are a lot faster than my v8's but they all sound so highly strung and wound up to within an inch of their lives, they feel like they are gonna explode at any moment. And, I would argue that if you spent the same amount of money on a v8, the rewards would be greater, especially if you put a turbo or 2 on them!
But theres one thing the turbo 4 or 6 will never have...a decent exhauset note

Devski

Wow. How arrogant are you.
The like or dislike to an audible note is up to the person. Who are you to decide if its a good note or not?

Amazing.

tiso88

lol I can't believe time and time again you guys bite at KeeWee's fishing line

postaldood

I would say you are right, but, just not feasable when you can't outlay the amount of coin you have to when it comes to moding an 8.
Cars already turbo'd are easy to mod because you have the simple package already there so it's cheap-ish to upgrade select parts rather than everything at once.

Agree with you 100% on the exhaust note part though... nothing like a decent V8 growl.
I don't mind a good 6 cyl...RB or 2J on song... cant say the same for anything holden or ford made.

TAS-VK

For the love of god dont get Darren started on fords

What grinds my gears you ask well ok here is my list for today
Cars
Dickheads that can't judge there cars
Cars
Work
People who don't indicate
Stupid people that pull in front of cars with a stock car trailer on - i will ram your stupid piece of shit just a friendly warning to who ever trys that shit again
Cars
This god forsaken back ache i have
Blastocystis hommus
Super chargers
Intercoolers
Chevys
Holden 5 litres engines
Harrop

And last but not least the most thing that grinds my gears is fucking STRESS so here is a big fuck you to it

Webbey64

classic

Webbey64

I do not think if you spent the same money on a v8 as japanese 4 or 6 you would get the same amount of power increase, you can not beat the sound of a V8 rumbling down the road, but i am not sure you could beat the feeling of looking at some poor dude in his 75k - 100k car in your rear view mirror and all as your sporting is a dirty 20 - 30 year old straight 6

KeeWee Kustoms

Um, I am a person who has decided I dont like the note of a 4 or 6 cylinder engine...as per your own statement, it is up to the individual to decide...so whats yer problem??

KeeWee Kustoms

lol Tiso, you are on to me, hahaha! I get bored at night and it amuses me, hahahahaha

tiso88

my bitch is waiting for transport to get back to me about my mod plate application.

Jmatz1

haha agreeed

Webbey64

haha i did it waited ages then they said you only have 1 year to complete so now i am doing when she is about to hit the dyno.

grandmasterb

Tried counting sheep???

KeeWee Kustoms

Hmmm, I have no idea how much it costs to mod a jap 4 or 6 (pretty sure its gonna cost a lot more for parts if those reactors go up, lol),
but my standard 5.0 windsor motor only put out around 165kw from the factory. Wack in a cam and some roller rockers ($500), a new intake ($300), decent extractors and zorst ($600), cold air intake (free), and a 150hp NOS hit ($600), and it now produces a hell of a lot more. I reckon thats pretty good value, and youd have to spend a similar amount on a 4 or 6 I reckon.
I guess you could just wind up the boost but then youd shorten your engine life considerably...
Important thing to remember though is HP wins wanking contests, torque wins races!!

Webbey64

Supra's / gtr's come out with that amount of power, FMIC bigger injectors cam and exhaust and they will make a hell of alot more without the giggle gas. Anyways not here to argue just to have a chat about cars as its a car forum,


maybe i will come back and talk when i have a car that turns its wheels by itself without me pushing it

postaldood

So what does NOS do for your engine?
Extend its life?

WhiteVUSS

KeeWee really let it go, im suprised as a small business owner you would get in here and pay out on your potential customers

tiso88

When I asked if they knew how long til i would hear about it she told me it depended on how many applications were in front of me, but couldn't tell me how many there were waiting in front of mine :-(

shit thing is, I got told by transport when I first bought the car I didn't need a mod plate, so I did all the work only to be told I need a mod plate now lol, So it's sitting there, just waiting for them to say yes or no so I can take it to an engineer (speaking of which, any recommendations, anyone?)

Webbey64

Yeah the dude was nice to me on the phone and said theres 50applications and yours is second last lol, i got to fill it all out again as i need to put in surge tank battery relocation everything i can think of so its all good when it comes to insurance

KeeWee Kustoms

NOS is perfectly safe if used properly, no different to forcing air into the motor with a turbo or blower
With all due respect White, my customers rarely come from this forum. There appears to be a lot of young guys on here who, while they may like custom work done, they can rarely afford it. And thats not cause of my prices, cause I know Im a lot cheaper than others, its just that, even at cheap rates, paint and custom work is expensive

Funz

go see steve caplice at fogarty's along argyle, he does that kind of stuff good bloke if ya can take a joke tell him the green car set something on fire again

8700s14

Took the thought straight from my mind!

But on the topic of V8 vs 4cyl Turbo. IMO, the biggest problem with V8's is the shitboxes most people have them in, everyone focuses on power/torque and they lose out against the light weight 4 Cyl Turbos every time.

Then there is the argument for which gives better bang for buck, very debatable, but I am going with the factory fitted turbo motor as all the hard work is done, just add fuel and air, then compress the air a bit (boost) and you can quickly double the factory power output!

PROXENETA

Friday Friday gotta get down on Friday

SL/ENUT

Fuck i hate that song. Can't sing for shit.

Me, screwing up in class. God damn brain wasn't in the right spot.

Devski

Bit late mate. Its tuesday

ripitup

The V8 vs import discussion always a good discussion i book marked the following as i found it pretty impressive
Some interesting Top Fuel dragster facts:
* One dragster's 500-inch Hemi makes more horsepower then the first 8
rows at Daytona
* Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1 1/2 gallons of
nitro per second, the same rate of fuel consumption as a fully loaded
747 but with 4 times the energy volume.
* The supercharger takes more power to drive then a stock hemi makes.
* Even with nearly 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the
supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into nearly-
solid form before ignition. Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic
lock.
* Dual magnetos apply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output
of an arc welder in each cylinder.
* At stoichiometric (exact) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture (for nitro), the
flame front of nitromethane measures 7050 degrees F.
* Nitromethane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above
the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from
atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.
* Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2
way, the engine is dieseling from compression-plus the glow of
exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by
cutting of it's fuel flow.
* If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds
up in those cylinders and then explodes with a force that can blow
cylinder heads off the block in pieces or blow the block in half.
* Dragsters twist the crank (torsionally) so far (20 degrees in the
big end of the track) that sometimes cam lobes are ground offset from
front to rear to re-phase the valve timing somewhere closer to
synchronization with the pistons.
* To exceed 300mph in 4.5 seconds dragsters must accelerate at an
average of over 4G's. But in reaching 200 mph well before 1/2 track,
launch acceleration is closer to 8G's.
* If all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and for
once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs $1000.00 per second.
* Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have read this
sentence.
* Top Fuel Engines ONLY turn 540 revolutions from light to light!
* The redline is actually quite high at 9500rpm
* To give you an idea of this acceleration, the current TF dragster
elapsed time record is 4.477 seconds for the quarter mile. This means
that you could be coming across the starting line in your average
Lingenfelter powered "twin-turbo" Corvette at 200 mph (on a FLYING
START) and the dragster would BEAT you to the finish line FROM A DEAD
STOP in a quarter mile distance!

so the v8 can have the business but at the end of the day its personal preference

me personaly i go wet i pats at the sound of a mean datsun on gate

Webbey64

they are some cool facts Ripitup, I love hemi's 440 hemi is just ear porn however Im not so much opposed to V8's / 6's /4's but more opposed to some peoples choice of engine into certain car IE V8 into LJ or RB26 into like a HQ Monaro or 5L into S15 etc.