Performance Mods Rb20e Mods Skyline R33 Non Turbo. - already has a 3inch exhaust to 5 inch cannon.  

TwinCam16

Oh and you have to run the Buick 3.8 ECU.

It's ok, because both are a 6 cylinder.

Akshunhiro

Just stick GT-R badges on the commo, ladies will swoon!

patrick_h_oz

Sorry dude.. but gay carp made me LOL..

alandog

y is it legal to then put an s14 vct sr20de into an s13. the s13s never came out with the vct sr20de.

TwinCam16

No one ever said the neo into a 33 is illegal.

stockmy00

Here's your advice , keep the skyline with the shitty Eco spec Na motor and leave it untouched until you are on your opens... All the while saving money. Get your opens, sell the skyline and buy one with an rb25det or buy a Silvia with an sr20det.
In conclusion, don't waste your time or money trying to modify the eco spec r33.

silver31

This is only true in a couple of states, where I believe there are no turbo restrictions anyway. Pretty sure in Vic, NSW, and QLD you will find any engine conversion is not legal, regardless of whether the car came with that engine in another variant.


About all I could suggest, since any swap will be illegal, slap an RB30E in and change the rocker cover over.



Oh and LOL an RB20E R33 with a kit? Haha. Next you'll tell me its a 4 door...

iamhappy46

FIXED

lagperformance

listen to these lot if its not 700hp its not good enough I understand exactly what you are saying/asking the you could do for a bit more fun on a budget would be;

- run some decent spark plugs

- get a decent set of igniticon leads

- slam some good quality oil in it

- remove the factory plasic induction piping set up a nice cold air induction system, use intercooler piping mark angles to make straightest restriction free path cut and weld to suit in stainless or alloy.

- get a custom ecu remapped chip made up can be easily found tuned to your requirements for around $50 all you need then is a tv repair shop to fit it after it arrives $30.

- get the cam reground to move the power band higher in the rev range

- a nice set of tune length extractors to go with the 3 inch system if it doesnt have a set already

and the possibilitys go on to that would be as far as i would personally take it from there it is onto maybe a 81mm piston rb24 na combination adjustable cam gear harder valve springs head porting and shaving twin cam head conversion a well tuned rb20 will serve u well and keep you on the right side of the cops.

Rancher

How very wrong you are. Its legal in QLD to place a motor in a car that came factory with it (IE, R33 came with RB25DE, DET) without having to get a mod plate



You and RB20's... No mater what you do to a single cam RB20. There is nothing you can do that will make it go faster. It was never ever designed to get any. Furthermore, its has been proved that the factory airbox, and flat panel air filters are much better alot of situations. Good quality oil is going to do nothing in a motor that has probably been thrashed harder then anything on the planet. Custom ECU is pointless in this application, as its already at optimal tuning, same with the cam. All thats going to do is make it use more fuel, and still go no where fast. Fucking LOLOLOL at a 3inch exhaust on a 2ltr single cam motor. How can you call yourself a performance shop? You clearly seem to have very very limited knowledge of anything performance related. Do you have any qualifications? Or are you some back yarder?

lagperformance

Quite clearly it's you that knows nothing. A decent remapped tune (chip) and a set of extractors will increase power it's been proven time and time again hots4s,performance car,hpi etc etc etc so keep talking of something you know nothing of It suits your ugly ass profile picture however I have built a fair few rb20 engines between here and nz want some phone numbers? haha a 3 inch exhaust is a little oversize for a n/a will still make no major difference (seen 4inch on a n/a). I guarantee you without doubt you will make more power with decent breathing mods and a tune speed cut being removed is a performance increase on it's own factory ecu's are tuned to meet emission standards and daily tune about time you went back to school and learnt a thing or two. Decent oil also makes a big difference might have something to do with it lubricating all the parts of your engine but what would I know only been building and converting them for 7 years. Dreams are free otherwise we would all be rich so how many cars/engines have you put together? and what do you drive a honda no doubt. So how bout being constructive and helping this guy out his car has an rb20 he wants more performance not to be bagged out by the likes of you how can you say something is pointless when you have not even done it yourself nuff said.

ShanO`

Wraith

Ah yes move the power up higher in the rev range. Perfect for a street car. I agree with the others. Your a dumb ass.

clutch-monkey

that's about where i stopped reading

jish

Same.

I then assumed lag performance's ass was located in his mouth, due to the amount of shit he talks.

Kane

If you want him to fire up, just say you will park a Honda under his house.

Rancher

Listen here buddy. You don't know a thing about me. I've done enough here and there to know a thing or two. I certainly dont need to go back to school to "Learnt" a thing or two. What advice you're giving is for TURBO and FORCED INDUCTION cars. A remapped ECU on an econobox motor such as the SINGLE CAM RB20 NON TURBO is going to do diddly squat. A 3inch exhaust on a single cam RB20 will decrease engine power, but what do I know about exhaust frequencies and back pressure. Clearly, a little more then you.

You also didn't prove me wrong about your retarded pod idea. All well and good to put a stupid pod and a ridiculously oversized exhaust on an N/A car, but it will have nil to negative performance gains. For all I fucking care, you can stick royale Purple in your boat anchors, its going to do 4 5ths of fuck all, to a motor thats been thrashed to shit house, and seen the rev limiter (If the RB20E can even make it there) If you claim you've been building them for 7 years, then I'm the queen of England. You have silly idea's, and quite clearly have no idea of emission laws, and understandings of mod plate and ADR laws., judging by the complied RB20DET you put in that aborted ebay spec RB20 in the 33.

You know fuck all about me, and if this is how you conduct yourself with retarded statements about "I know nothing, I drive a honda, I haven't built a motor" I can only assume that your "Business" must also conduct itself in such a manner, and spin the shit you need to get yourself some business.

Lastly. If you believe that doing anything to an RB20E is worth it, you have serious issues. I don't need to have done it to know that its the biggest money pit, and time waster available, right next to excels being fast.

silver31

Actually an RB25DE would be a non-equivalent engine being greater than 10% more powerful, thus needing a mod plate, therefore not P-plate legal. When they say 'particular model of vehicle' in the standards, they really mean it.

Rancher

From the ADR modification laws in QLD;

"The regulations allow a replacement engine to be fitted if it is "similar" to the original. This includes an engine offered as an option by the manufacturer provided that other components, especially `structure, suspension and brakes', are upgraded to match.

A different engine of similar `power, weight and emission standards to that of the original engine' may also be fitted, but an engineer's report is needed for any modifications to supports or structure. The replacement engine must be of the same age as the vehicle or newer and must meet all emission standards applicable at the vehicle's date of manufacture "

TwinCam16

Lol

xmosx

buy a laser

silver31

That is basically what I said. Also a HR33 GTS is not the same model of car as an ER33 GTS25 and the only engine available in a HR33 GTS was an RB20E...theres no optional engine.

RB20E - 2 litres, 96-110kw.

RB25DE - 2.5 litres, 140kw (R33) to 147kw (Neo from R34, Stagea etc).

ADRs are national, don't mix terminology.. Individual states have their own standards and the QLD transport ones specifically say if its more than 10% more powerful it needs a mod plate.

Thats the strict letter of the law. Possibly a policeman might not pick it, or might read it differently.

Besides...Why tip more money into what is already a grossly overcapitalised vehicle.

JDM_R32

You sir are a dumb shit, R33 skylines came out with the Rb20e and the Rb25de, both the HR33 and the ER33 are still an R33 skyline, therefor the Rb25de is a legal engine conversion you dumb shit. Learn your shit before you comment faggot.

clutch-monkey

awesome so i can put an RB26DETT in? after all a GTR is still an R33
by this logic i don't need a mod plate for my car?

TwinCam16

In theory...

omp

Can we leave Milla out of this.......

Also agree wait till on P's then move forward from there.

Also do you a pic of under the bonnet, interested to see what a RB20E looks like.

JDM_R32

They look like an Rb30 pretty much.