I Wanna Take The Turbo Off My R33 To Make It P Plate Legal - how do i do it and what parts will i need.  

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Post #1 post 30th October 2010 - 05:43 PM
As explained above i wanna take the turbo off my factory turboed r33 to make it P plate legal.
How would i go about doing this and what parts will i need.cheers
W1NT3R
Post #2

Sigh.... 3rd thread on this in the last couple of weeks

rbcef
Post #3

Are you...

A) A troll
B) Unable to use the search function
C) Stupid
D) All of the above

Not worth the effort, you should have just bought yourself an N/A

STFUKhubner
Post #4

Lol fail

JayJay
Post #5

You would need a bomb and to stop using the internet if you are unable to use the search function or even google or even have some common sense to know that it's stupid, a waste of money. Would've also been alot cheaper to buy an already N/A R33 than wasting your money buying a turbo'd one to later realise it's a) expensive b) pointless and c) complete waste of money.

Use the search function before posting any new topics from now on and you might enjoy your stay and not get flamed.

Choofed
Post #6

badge it as a non-turbo and place a cover over the turbo so the police can't see it ph34r.gif

Aiight
Post #7

1. sell the r33 to someone whos not a fucking idiot P plater.

2. buy yourself a corolla or whatnot for 2k

3. drive that POS into the ground because thats all your going to do to the r33 anyway, destroy a perfectly good car.

4. when you have got some real driving experience and have matured from the 18yr old "im fulli sik" driving mentality then buy yourself a better car.

jish
Post #8

Here we go again!

TwinCam16
Post #9

If the OP was smart, getting the turbo version first would make sense.
-Massive brakes
-LSD
-Very strong gearbox

But chances are the OP didn't think of this...

Aiight
Post #10

QUOTE (TwinCam16 @ Oct 31 2010, 12:45 PM) *
If the OP was smart, getting the turbo version first would make sense.
-Massive brakes
-LSD
-Very strong gearbox

But chances are the OP didn't think of this...


how is that smart? so he has to go and throw a non turbo motor in? if he thinks he can just take the turbo off then its pretty obvious he wouldnt be able to do an engine swap himself so there goes 5k to make the car shitter. I dunno about you but i wouldnt be interested in spending money to intentionally ruin my car. even if it was temporary.

he would still have to swap the motor to drive it legally and modifications requiring DOT approval are not allowed on P plate vehicles.

the smart thing would be to deal with the fact that you cant really have a quick car on your P's and buy a cheap POS

especially considering it appears to be a first car. most first cars are not looked after correctly and end up bashing gutters etc.

I think everyone should learn to drive an old POS to its limit before jumping in a real car.



Touge Torana
Post #11

QUOTE (Aiight @ Oct 31 2010, 12:41 PM) *
1. sell the r33 to someone whos not a fucking idiot P plater.

2. buy yourself a corolla or whatnot for 2k

3. drive that POS into the ground because thats all your going to do to the r33 anyway, destroy a perfectly good car.

4. when you have got some real driving experience and have matured from the 18yr old "im fulli sik" driving mentality then buy yourself a better car.



thought I was awesome back then
just full of awesomness now

obey.
Post #12

Move to OT?

sly32
Post #13

take off the 4 bolts holding the turbo on.... done.... your car will be NA..... but seriously..... as above... stupid and been explained a million times why....

TwinCam16
Post #14

QUOTE (Aiight @ Oct 31 2010, 12:59 PM) *
how is that smart? so he has to go and throw a non turbo motor in? if he thinks he can just take the turbo off then its pretty obvious he wouldnt be able to do an engine swap himself so there goes 5k to make the car shitter. I dunno about you but i wouldnt be interested in spending money to intentionally ruin my car. even if it was temporary.

he would still have to swap the motor to drive it legally and modifications requiring DOT approval are not allowed on P plate vehicles.

the smart thing would be to deal with the fact that you cant really have a quick car on your P's and buy a cheap POS

especially considering it appears to be a first car. most first cars are not looked after correctly and end up bashing gutters etc.

I think everyone should learn to drive an old POS to its limit before jumping in a real car.


Removing the turbo and fitting the non turbo headers, ecu / loom would not require a mod plate as the vehicle was sold with the RB25DE as a factory option. Sure it wont rev hard being low comp but it would still be driveable.

He COULD remove the RB25DET and fit the RB25DE as a total package. Sale of the DET would easily pay for the DE.

All of which is p plate legal and no mod plate required, which route to go down though, well that's personally preference.

But as i said, given that the op isnt smart enough to work this all out on his own (you included) it's kinda putting light on it all now...

diesel124
Post #15

from most of the responses anyone gets of this site i wonder why does anybody bother to ask questions on here, all you get back is a load of shit nothing to do with the question. maybe he isnt mechanicly minded and didnt know it wasnt worth it. but there is no point to carry on like a bunch of fuck wits is there?

TwinCam16
Post #16

QUOTE (diesel124 @ Oct 31 2010, 01:05 PM) *
from most of the responses anyone gets of this site i wonder why does anybody bother to ask questions on here, all you get back is a load of shit nothing to do with the question. maybe he isnt mechanicly minded and didnt know it wasnt worth it. but there is no point to carry on like a bunch of fuck wits is there?


Pardon?

Touge Torana
Post #17

ask in the tech section
they will humour you until you get on there nerves

JayJay
Post #18

Hey pyro I think someone is asking for a banning.

Joyrid3r
Post #19

QUOTE (diesel124 @ Oct 31 2010, 01:05 PM) *
from most of the responses anyone gets of this site i wonder why does anybody bother to ask questions on here, all you get back is a load of shit nothing to do with the question. maybe he isnt mechanicly minded and didnt know it wasnt worth it. but there is no point to carry on like a bunch of fuck wits is there?


the laws about driving turbo cars whilst on your p's are quite clear.....

Bug Boy
Post #20

QUOTE (TwinCam16 @ Oct 31 2010, 01:04 PM) *
Removing the turbo and fitting the non turbo headers, ecu / loom would not require a mod plate as the vehicle was sold with the RB25DE as a factory option. Sure it wont rev hard being low comp but it would still be driveable.

He COULD remove the RB25DET and fit the RB25DE as a total package. Sale of the DET would easily pay for the DE.

All of which is p plate legal and no mod plate required, which route to go down though, well that's personally preference.

But as i said, given that the op isnt smart enough to work this all out on his own (you included) it's kinda putting light on it all now...


Just out of my own curiosity. If he was to remove the turbo and yada yada yada without putting a mod plate on it, will cops, DOT etc still look at the VIN/model and see that it was originally a turbo? Now I mean, if a cop was to pull him over post turbo removal, see that it's a GTS-T (or whatever the model is) and just book him without looking to see it's actually non-turbo? I'm willing to bet that even if some cops look in the engine bay they won't know what they're looking at and won't be able to tell if the turbo's there or not.

Hope that makes sense.

Aiight
Post #21

QUOTE (TwinCam16 @ Oct 31 2010, 01:04 PM) *
Removing the turbo and fitting the non turbo headers, ecu / loom would not require a mod plate as the vehicle was sold with the RB25DE as a factory option. Sure it wont rev hard being low comp but it would still be driveable.

He COULD remove the RB25DET and fit the RB25DE as a total package. Sale of the DET would easily pay for the DE.

All of which is p plate legal and no mod plate required, which route to go down though, well that's personally preference.

But as i said, given that the op isnt smart enough to work this all out on his own (you included) it's kinda putting light on it all now...


Me included? Are you trying to insult me? Why the hostility twin cam? I've noticed that you don't like when a more realistic perspective is offered in response to your comments do you?

Removing the turbo from the 25DET motor is not ever going to be a "smart" move. The results would be considerably less then desirable. I don't know why anyone would consider this option.

I said it already but why would you spend money pulling the motor and replacing it? I guarantee if he needs a workshop to swap the motors the sale of the 25DET minus box is never going to cover it. Again he's left spending money to make the car worse. That is NOT smart in my books, in fact its damn near retarded.

so in conclusion

QUOTE
If the OP was smart, getting the turbo version first would make sense.


No. sorry that is false.



G-uni7
Post #22

yeah you see a cop get the fuk outa there tongue.gif

Joyrid3r
Post #23

QUOTE (Bug Boy @ Oct 31 2010, 01:25 PM) *
Just out of my own curiosity. If he was to remove the turbo and yada yada yada without putting a mod plate on it, will cops, DOT etc still look at the VIN/model and see that it was originally a turbo? Now I mean, if a cop was to pull him over post turbo removal, see that it's a GTS-T (or whatever the model is) and just book him without looking to see it's actually non-turbo? I'm willing to bet that even if some cops look in the engine bay they won't know what they're looking at and won't be able to tell if the turbo's there or not.

Hope that makes sense.


you mean, when they run the rego plates through their computer before/during a pull over? I'm quite curious about that also, but, would that info be available from such little info?

Akshunhiro
Post #24

Wouldn't it be easier to try get an exemption?

nferno
Post #25

Just buy a VL

Bug Boy
Post #26

QUOTE (Joyrid3r @ Oct 31 2010, 01:38 PM) *
you mean, when they run the rego plates through their computer before/during a pull over? I'm quite curious about that also, but, would that info be available from such little info?


Yeah that's what I mean. Because I can probably guarantee that if they check the car on their database and see that the indentification states it's a turbo-charged car they will just book him straight away. No matter how much pissing and moaning the OP carries on with because they just simply won't believe him.

Darkness
Post #27

QUOTE (Aiight @ Oct 31 2010, 01:04 PM) *
No. sorry that is false.


QUOTE (TwinCam16 @ Oct 31 2010, 12:15 PM) *
If the OP was smart, getting the turbo version first would make sense.
-Massive brakes
-LSD
-Very strong gearbox


But chances are the OP didn't think of this...


smile.gif

Aiight
Post #28

QUOTE (Darkness @ Oct 31 2010, 02:02 PM) *
smile.gif



none of those points come close to being a smart reason to have bought a turbo r33 that he cant drive. *shakes head at the incredible level of stupidity*


I cant believe I need to spell this out but I guess some people need a little extra help

there is NO smart reason to buy a turbo R33 when you are a P plater!!

There is a bucket load of reasons why but if you cant figure it out then good luck with your life.

Touge Torana
Post #29

maybe if it was a really good idea
he had too much money
and it was the car he wanted when he got off the p's
and he had room to store car until then

but even then
I wouldn't

Darkness
Post #30

QUOTE (Aiight @ Oct 31 2010, 01:40 PM) *
none of those points come close to being a smart reason to have bought a turbo r33 that he cant drive. *shakes head at the incredible level of stupidity*


I cant believe I need to spell this out but I guess some people need a little extra help

there is NO smart reason to buy a turbo R33 when you are a P plater!!

There is a bucket load of reasons why but if you cant figure it out then good luck with your life.


I think Twincam should maybe write in baby talk so that you might understand.

But just seems you're just as dumb as OP.

Bug Boy
Post #31

I still think that he'll be stung even if he chooses to remove the turbo. If there is no mod plate (which is illegal on a P plate car anyway) or documentation of any kind to prove that it has been removed then the cops are still going to issue him with a fine or whatever it is you get. Maybe not so much the DOT because those guys might actually have an idea about what they're looking at but either way I believe it's a pretty dumb idea.

It's like buying a 50" TV and then when you get it home you cut it down to 32" because it doesn't fit in your cabinet. Even though you knew this before you bought it. Same same.

sly32
Post #32

QUOTE (Bug Boy @ Oct 31 2010, 05:10 PM) *
I still think that he'll be stung even if he chooses to remove the turbo. If there is no mod plate (which is illegal on a P plate car anyway) or documentation of any kind to prove that it has been removed then the cops are still going to issue him with a fine or whatever it is you get. Maybe not so much the DOT because those guys might actually have an idea about what they're looking at but either way I believe it's a pretty dumb idea.

It's like buying a 50" TV and then when you get it home you cut it down to 32" because it doesn't fit in your cabinet. Even though you knew this before you bought it. Same same.



um.... what i would do... pop the bonnet... get the cop standing next to the car pointing to the exhaust manifold where the turbo normally is and take a photo... then you will always be able to get out of it.... i seriously doubt cops are that dumb... sure you might get a few... but if they cant see a turbo and just a exhaust pipe... im pretty sure they wont fine you....

but seriously... it will be the slowest car ever because of the compression and stuff... best to just buy non turbo gear and do a straight swap... will probably take less time aswell just pulling out the whole engine and wiring harness and chucking the non turbo harness and engine in.... its alot less bolts to undo...

Rancher
Post #33

QUOTE (sly32 @ Oct 31 2010, 05:32 PM) *
um.... what i would do... pop the bonnet... get the cop standing next to the car pointing to the exhaust manifold where the turbo normally is and take a photo... then you will always be able to get out of it.... i seriously doubt cops are that dumb... sure you might get a few... but if they cant see a turbo and just a exhaust pipe... im pretty sure they wont fine you....

but seriously... it will be the slowest car ever because of the compression and stuff... best to just buy non turbo gear and do a straight swap... will probably take less time aswell just pulling out the whole engine and wiring harness and chucking the non turbo harness and engine in.... its alot less bolts to undo...


You shouldn't talk technical on Boost. You clearly have no understanding, and to the multitude of people who do, you look like an idiot.

woodstock88
Post #34

TROLL

TwinCam16
Post #35

Wow.... Just... Wow!!

Darkness hit the nail on the head with having to put it into baby talk for the selected few that can not get off the bandwagon going here and actually use that muscle sitting behind their eyes.

First of all, running the det in atmo form is the cheapest option here. Sure won't be the best one but will work and be drivable. How do I know? Ohh that's right.. I have actually done it before. But hey, what would I know....

The better option is, as mentioned pull the det out and fit the de.

Bugboy, for the record there is nothing on qld transport that has anything relating to the type of induction a vehicle has. Nothing relating to it being a turbo or atmo vin etc etc.

Aiight, get off your high horse, you clearly have no experience relating to the topic.

Hey, if I was in the op's shoes, I'd pull the det out, put in a de and build one killer det ready for when I hit my opens. But you didn't think of that before you thought "awe man fuck yeah, chance to flame another p plater non turbo conversion thread again"

Also, the person mentioning mod plates, they are not required. Case closed.

Did I miss anything???

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