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I often hear questions about battery relocation and thought someone might be interested in a no-nonsense explanation. Benefits: Better weight distribution for improved handling Increased engine bay space Increased battery performance and life by reducing operating temperature This information has been compiled with the help of Battery World franchisees and staff who do these types of conversions everyday. All batteries rely on an internal chemical reaction to generate electrical energy, which creates toxic gases as a by-product and must be either released or reconstituted. These gases can be safely ventilated in an engine bay, but once the battery is mounted internally, they can easily build up to dangerous levels. Also, high engine bay temperatures can cause the battery's rate of chemical reaction to accelerate and shorten its life. Important features for a boot mounted battery are: High Power Capacity to turn over large volume and high compression engines Vibration Resistance Heat Resistance Don't vent gases Mountable on almost any angle and won't spill electrolyte IMPORTANT: It's a waste of time and money going through this process with the intention of installing a cheap battery. We recommend using a sealed AGM (Absorbed Glass Mat) type battery, but a maintenance free battery with a breather hose to the external atmosphere (via the boot floor) will also do the job. RACING: If you want to go racing, make sure you refer to the technical or category rule manuals from: CAMS - drift, sprints, road course, rally (http://www.camsmanual.com.au/) ANDRA - drag racing (http://www.andra.com.au/) STREET: If you want to modify your battery location and drive on the road you must comply with your State Transport Authority. Important issues to be aware of: Mounting Grounding Resistance Ventilation Vibration Parts List: Battery Battery box Battery mounting bracket kit Cables - OB & S diameter and 4m lengths x 2 (You need the thickest cable possible to accommodate voltage loss from the resistance of the extra cable length. This will also help avoid a mountain of possible earthing problems later on.) OR? 2B&S has proven suitable for turbocharged vehicles with low compression engines provided the connections are clean and tight. Crimp lugs x 2 Brass Terminals x 2 (match size to the battery terminals you?re purchasing!) Rubber grommets x 2 Anti-zap Terminal protection spray Tools required: Drill Shifting spanner 13mm socket Crimping pliers Cable cutters Some recommended batteries: Optima - Their Yellow Top has massive cold cranking amps, very high vibration resistance, high under-bonnet temperature capability, extra long life and deep cycling ability to run serious sound systems for very long periods. Odyssey - available in much smaller external dimensions and offers further weight savings for racing applications. Century Hi-Performance maintenance free range - has an option to vent via a plastic hose to outside the boot and can provide a cost effective alternative, but a bit more installation work is required and you must regularly check it. Steps: 1. Disconnect battery from engine bay leads (Important: Disconnect your earth (negative) lead first, followed by live (positive). Reconnect in reverse order).and remove from mounting bracket. We recommend running 2 cables from the boot to the engine bay. One from the battery positive terminal to the engine earth. One from the battery negative terminal to the starter motor. Then, a short earth lead from the starter motor to the chassis earth. 2. Find a hole in the firewall that will allow both cables to be threaded through. If no existing hole exists, drill 2 holes to enter behind dash on passenger side. 3. Peel back front passenger footwell carpet, slide rubber grommets over cable and then feed cables from inside in to engine bay. 4. To join the live terminal to the rear mount cable we suggest removing the original brass battery terminal from the cable and replace with a copper sleeve and then swage the cable to the existing terminal connections. This should then be double wrapped with high voltage shrink wrap (thicker walled and encased in glue type resin). Swaging is joining, two or more cables in a barrel / straight type joiner under pressure by use of crimps. 5. Fit rubber grommets to seal holes in the firewall. 6. Cable-tie both battery cables to the chassis clear of any moving or hot parts like exhausts and turbo-chargers. 7. Feed remaining cables under the carpet toward the boot. 8. Choose a location for battery box to mount to chassis. Preferably to the side or rear where you can mount to solid chassis metal and will be able 9. Drill holes for bracket kit through box and boot floorpan. Battery box cannot be fixed to the chassis and then just sit battery in the box. The battery must be clamped to the chassis directly, sandwiching the base of the battery box. 10. Sit battery in battery box and clamp in place. 11. Lay out route of cables in boot and zip tie in place. Make sure the cables will be out of the way when carrying stuff in the boot and also so they can easily be pulled out of the way to install and remove the battery. 12. Measure cable length to reach battery terminals and cut. Leave a bit of extra length for attaching the brass terminals and slack for pulling them on and off. 13. Connect Anti-Zap across positive (earth) and negative cables. This is often over looked, but is an excellent and in-expensive safety measure for yourself and your car?s expensive electronics and software from voltage spikes. 14. Feed cables through the holes in your battery box lid. 15. Attach brass terminal clamps to both cable ends. 16. Rough up the battery?s terminal and the matching inside surface of brass terminal clamps. 17. Connect earth lead to positive terminal on battery. 18. Connect negative lead to negative terminal on battery. 19. Spray both terminals with terminal protection spray. This simple action can prevent corrosion and extend the life of your expensive battery. 20. We suggest anyone contemplating doing this for legal road use has their engineer of choice approve the install. There seems to be some grey areas in the legislation, everything from grade and size of bolt, material used to tie battery down and ventilation - if applicable. The rule book can be overwhelming to read and at the end of it, is very much open to interpretation. If you have any queries, just go and talk to your local BatteryWorld guy as he's probably into cars like you. -------------------- BATTERY WORLD INDOOROOPILLY
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iamhappy46
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2 Things.... Number 17 ??? Earth to positive battery terminal? Ventilation?? Whats the best/legal way to do this? Any thoughts?You guys fitted any boxes to street cars? I am more worried about 1. and 13. ![]() Also, for 4. I would go and buy a VE Commodore Engine bay Battery Terminal, which allows a join between the existing positive battery wiring and the new wiring which goes to the battery. This allows the vehicle to be 'jump started' from the engine bay without having to remove the battery box lid to access the battery ![]() I would also be putting a 250A slow blow fuse(or two in parrallel if you have huge starter motor current draw) which stops huge problems in case of an accident where the power lead can short to earth with no way of quickly disconnecting the battery. There is also no need to run two cables, its a total waste of time and causes RFI and voltage loss Also, its not common knowledge but that super thick electrical cable they make Welding Earth Leads from is a perfect cheap alternative to normal 0 gauge wire ![]() |
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iamhappy46
Post #5
Also, another battery to look out for is the Exide Orbital series |
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OptimaJim
Post #6
Hello, I saw your conversation regarding our batteries and wanted to help clarify some points that were made. Ground quality will not be as good if you don't run a second cable and Orbitals do not have Optima cores. We also never recommend relocating any battery inside an enclosed space without proper venting provisions. If you have any battery-related questions, I'll do my best to answer them. |
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Mongrel
Post #7
If you're going to write a tech article could at least proof read the shit first. Nissan don't have enough ALT fuse links to go around. |
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iamhappy46
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I often hear questions about battery relocation and thought someone might be interested in a no-nonsense explanation. Steps: 1. Disconnect battery from engine bay leads (Important: Disconnect your earth (negative) lead first, followed by active (positive).).and remove from mounting bracket. Run one good quality zero gauge wire from the battery positive post now in the sealed box in the boot to a VE Commodore + terminal in the engine bay. Connect the old positive lead in the engine bay to the VE commodore + terminal. The old -'ve wire in the engine bay should be grounded to a CLEAN + paint free bolted part of the chassis. Then, a short earth lead from the -'ve post of the battery in the battery box to the chassis earth close to the battery box. 2. Find a hole in the firewall that will allow both cables to be threaded through. If no existing hole exists, drill a hole to enter behind dash on passenger side. 3. Peel back front passenger footwell carpet, slide rubber grommets over cable and then feed cables from inside in to engine bay. 4. To join the live terminal to the new positive cable, remove the original brass battery terminal from the cable and replace with a copper sleeve and then swage the cable to the existing terminal connections. This should then be double wrapped with high voltage shrink wrap (thicker walled and encased in glue type resin). Swaging is joining, two or more cables in a barrel / straight type joiner under pressure by use of crimps. 5. Fit rubber grommets to seal holes in the firewall. 6. Cable-tie the positive battery cable to hold it in place under the carpet, away from sharp steel points where it could rub through while avoiding any moving or hot parts like exhausts and turbo-chargers in the engine bay. 7. Feed remaining cables under the carpet toward the boot. 8. Choose a location for battery box to mount to chassis. Preferably to the side or rear where you can mount to solid chassis metal and will be able 9. Drill holes for bracket kit through box and boot floorpan. Battery box cannot be fixed to the chassis and then just sit battery in the box. The battery must be clamped to the chassis directly, sandwiching the base of the battery box. 10. Sit battery in battery box and clamp in place. 11. Lay out route of cables in boot and zip tie in place. Make sure the cables will be out of the way when carrying stuff in the boot and also so they can easily be pulled out of the way to install and remove the battery. 12. Measure cable length to reach battery terminals and cut. Leave a bit of extra length for attaching the brass terminals and slack for pulling them on and off. 13. Connect Anti-Zap across positive (ACTIVE) and negative(EARTH) cables. This is often over looked, but is an excellent and in-expensive safety measure for yourself and your cars expensive electronics and software from voltage spikes. 14. Feed cables through the holes in your battery box lid. 15. Attach brass terminal clamps to both cable ends. 16. Rough up the battery?s terminal and the matching inside surface of brass terminal clamps. 17. Connect ACTIVE lead to positive terminal on battery. 18. Connect negative(earth wire) lead to negative terminal on battery. 19. Spray both terminals with terminal protection spray. This simple action can prevent corrosion and extend the life of your expensive battery. 20. We suggest anyone contemplating doing this for legal road use has their engineer of choice approve the install. There seems to be some grey areas in the legislation, everything from grade and size of bolt, material used to tie battery down and ventilation - if applicable. The rule book can be overwhelming to read and at the end of it, is very much open to interpretation. If you have any queries, just find anyone who has a clue on how to do it properly ![]() FIXED ![]() |
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iamhappy46
Post #11
If it is tucked up close to the floorpan and run down the edge of the chassis rail, it could be done. Much easier to run it under the carpet though |
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iamhappy46
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i thought that not all batteries have to be vented? is venting simply as running a hose from the battery box through the boot floor. Australian Design Rules do not have seperate legislation for 'sealed' batteries, as such they must still vent to outside the car |
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AGI78-VP
Post #14
Australian Design Rules do not have seperate legislation for 'sealed' batteries, as such they must still vent to outside the car interesting, i got defected for my battery in boot not being secured, and the STTF officer was going to write me up for non ventilated too, until he saw it was a sealed AGM battery and said that was fine |
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iamhappy46
Post #15
It is technically still a defect, thankfully some Police officers are reasonable enough to know that it should not 'require' being ventilated. |
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AmmoJammo
Post #17
Also, another battery to look out for is the Exide Orbital series ![]() ![]() http://www.remybattery.com/Products/Exide-...ery__34XCD.aspx also easier to mount ![]() ![]() |
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boostingcruising
Post #18
Iso switch would be the go in the box as well. Good for when you need to work on the car without power. Plus no key no ride! |
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iamhappy46
Post #21
Iso switch would be the go in the box as well. Good for when you need to work on the car without power. Plus no key no ride! I usually wire up a 300A circuit breaker on a cable pull system with a 20A quick blow fuse in parrallel on the lid of the battery box. Means I can disconnect the circuit breaker and leave the 20A fuse to power the alarm system. If they manage to get into the car, disable the alarm and attempt to hot wire the car, starter motor instantly blows the 20A fuse. They 'see' the blown fuse and hopefully, dont bother stuffing around trying to look for the circuit breaker. This, and, Do the Optima and Exide Orbital's have to vented still? They should be vented for emissions but most police officers/RTA etc are happy if it is a genuine sealed battery. my mx5 comes stock with battery in the boot its got theses tubes that connect to battery and removes fumes outside atm i got a lead acid battery so i cant use the tubes the RACQ one i think its rusts the boot if u keep it in there soo i gota change it soon Just buy a plastic battery tray for under your battery, no problems |
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