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the_random_hero
Post #36
QUOTE (Chocco @ Aug 20 2010, 01:55 PM)  Biggest crock of shit Iv read all week bud, congrats Go run a car that's been tuned on pump on E85 and come back here, see if your opinion changes. |
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DK777
Post #37
QUOTE (jish @ Aug 20 2010, 04:50 PM) Another question... Say you're running out of fuel and the only option you have is to fill with another kind of fuel yet your car is tuned for E85... What could potentially happen or will it just run like crap? interested to know aswel? and what approx $$$$ we looking at to change to braided lines? (sr20) |
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MR2Mark
Post #39
QUOTE (jish @ Aug 20 2010, 04:50 PM) Another question... Say you're running out of fuel and the only option you have is to fill with another kind of fuel yet your car is tuned for E85... What could potentially happen or will it just run like crap? If you didnt have a laptop handy and a pump fuel tune ready to load (which you would), it would run pig rich as it would be running ~30% more fuel than needed and you would probably lower you boost way down just to be sure you wernt detonating. It should be drivable though without doing any damage unlike running e85 on a pump fuel tune. |
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MR2Mark
Post #41
QUOTE (Chocco @ Aug 20 2010, 05:45 PM) Should try and explain that to the guys on hardtuned bud and see how much of your rubbish gets thrown back at you with posted results... You are wrong and if a hardtuned thread/person thinks this way they are wrong. You have to tune separately for e85 or you will get detonation without the ~30% extra fuel needed. |
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the_random_hero
Post #44
QUOTE (trev084 @ Aug 20 2010, 06:26 PM) Built and tuned are 2 very different things. Built = necessary bigger injectors, fuel pump, fuel lines, etc. Most peoples injectors would be at the very peak or over max duty cycle supplying 30% more fuel than they are currently using. |
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lo_rolla
Post #46
QUOTE (the_random_hero @ Aug 20 2010, 10:13 AM) There's a huge difference though mate. Shit fuel + ethanol was expected to have an octane rating of only 95, while premium along with ethanol was meant to be around 106. No reason at all I can't run the compression and boost I want, fuel will take care of pinging and I'm planing on running an O-ringed block, ARP studs and a half inch girdle. I agree with Drew. Gone are the days boost = low compression. Drew, I wouldn't bother with O-ringed block, I would go with a good MLS (Multi Layer Steel for the uneducated). No offence, but copper head gaskets (and o ringed blocks are done). ARP + ARP = no O ring. |
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bloodzkull
Post #48
QUOTE (Chocco @ Aug 20 2010, 01:55 PM) Biggest crock of shit Iv read all week bud, congrats QUOTE (trev084 @ Aug 20 2010, 06:26 PM) Built and tuned are 2 very different things. this. running e85 on a pump tune will fuck shit up, simple. other way around it will run rich and piggy as fuck, but "should" still run. and "not" do damage. |
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02GZM
Post #49
QUOTE (32 MKV @ Aug 20 2010, 11:10 AM) What are the requirements needed to be changed to run E85 to most potential and what is the complete benefit over it opposed to Octane 98? You'd best talk to a Revo tuner about it. Because it's going to have to be an individual dyno tune and not just a flash. A lot of part replacing too. So I doubt many people have done it on VW's  Did anyone else read this on the Caltex website? QUOTE E10 (10% ethanol blend) E10 is produced by mixing 10% ethanol with regular unleaded petrol in compliance with the limit set by the Australian Government National Fuels Standards. Caltex Bio E10 Unleaded is a unique blend of Caltex Unleaded 91 Octane with 10% sugar or grain based ethanol. E-Flex (up to 85% ethanol blend) E-Flex is an innovative fuel technology that contains up to 85% ethanol and blended with petrol. Cars can be specifically produced, and even modified to run on ethanol blend fuels as high as 85% ethanol. At present, there's an increasing range of new cars leaving the assembly lines that can take E-Flex. These are known as ‘flex-fuel’ vehicles and are currently sold in Australia by Saab and Holden by 2010. Caltex Australia will offer Bio E-Flex in 30 metropolitan and regional Caltex Service Stations by 2010, increasing to 100 by 2011. They name all of their other bio fuels E10, B2, B5 and B20 because they have exactly that much of a percentage in it. But they're calling this E-Flex and saying up to 85%. So I'd be a bit wary about it in the beginning. Sounds like it'll vary. |
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32 MKV
Post #50
QUOTE (02GZM @ Aug 21 2010, 08:54 AM) You'd best talk to a Revo tuner about it. Because it's going to have to be an individual dyno tune and not just a flash. A lot of part replacing too. So I doubt many people have done it on VW's Hmmm. True, nearest Revo dealer is in Toowoomba though I think. What would be the estimated gains on an N/A car? |
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Ralli
Post #51
QUOTE (Tweak @ Aug 20 2010, 07:36 AM) Queensland ALEXANDRA HILLS, Cnr Finucane Rd & Cambridge Dr WORONGARY 1 Mudgeeraba Rd BROOKWATER, 7001 Augusta Parkway MACKENZIE 1015 Mt Gravatt-Capalaba Road MARSDEN 10 Third Ave. Cnr Browns Plains Rd Yay around the corner from home, not that i will be using it on the Barina though 
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AGI78-VP
Post #53
QUOTE (02GZM @ Aug 21 2010, 09:54 AM) You'd best talk to a Revo tuner about it. Because it's going to have to be an individual dyno tune and not just a flash. A lot of part replacing too. So I doubt many people have done it on VW's Did anyone else read this on the Caltex website? "E-Flex (up to 85% ethanol blend) E-Flex is an innovative fuel technology that contains up to 85% ethanol and blended with petrol. " They name all of their other bio fuels E10, B2, B5 and B20 because they have exactly that much of a percentage in it. But they're calling this E-Flex and saying up to 85%. So I'd be a bit wary about it in the beginning. Sounds like it'll vary. i saw that too and thought the same thing, reading that it doesnt look like it will be a constant 85, and the last thing i want is variances in the fuel when i'd be getting tuning it towards the limit |
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Tweak
Post #56
http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/index.p...howtopic=438963 |
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the_random_hero
Post #58
QUOTE (khubner @ Aug 21 2010, 05:23 PM) i know this but it could be used as a stop gap for those that want to tune to the characteristics of e85 but can't wait for it's introduction It's a completely fucking dumb idea as a) E85 is STILL available by the barrel  methanol is dangerous, carcinogenic AND illegal for use on the street.
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HSV
Post #63
QUOTE (S2krazie @ Aug 21 2010, 06:59 PM) Which one of those is closest to the city? Mackenzie/Alex Hills but its still far enough to not bother with atm mate. And they are right about not much gains, especially on NA vehicles, unless you are running high compression on a NA it just isn't worth it. |
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the_random_hero
Post #65
QUOTE (TwinCam16 @ Aug 21 2010, 08:55 PM) And again, you make yourself look like a TOTAL COCK SMOKER He can't help it, he is mentally handicapped. Don't be so hard on him bro. |
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im probly too overcome with rage that i cant go to jambo to read it properly lol
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