2010 Sprint Thread  

Beannie

you also find the excel's won't really be slowing each other down much at all anyway. they're fairly maxed out as it is, so grouping together won't whole-heartedly be coming down to not getting better lap times.
the slower excels let the faster excels through but even so theres only 2-3sec per lap difference between them.

Mounfield Racing

First you say your not slowed down by excels, your not in my league !!! So your speaking to the excel not the driver of the excel it take it.
Secondly you say excels don't bother you as excels are never in your group. What group are you in apart from DNF and spectating?

Marlin

Yes, Paul is a moron. Aren't ya Paul. :-D

fireball

i thought it was bit of joke yesterday... the biggest groups that i have seen for a long time..there were 20cars in my group when normally there would only be about 12 cars per group ! but the fact that they put the slow cars in the group with fast cars, not to mention some newbies.... what a joke ! the time difference between the fastest car in my group to the slowest car was a difference of about 16secs ! thats almost a quarter of the track

so much for staggering 5 secs between cars. when u have such a disparity in speed within the group, add to the fact there were some heroes in the group that block or cut ppl off when they are already level with them on the corner.... or the poor girl driver who just would not let a much faster car pass down the straights, only to get stressed out at the corner cos now they are right on their tail.... and spin out

making it dangerous for everyone else in the group. if only she let them pass on the straight it would have been so much less dangerous , rather than spinning out on the corner and finding your car conked out and now facing traffic head on... geeez

not sure why qr just didnt go back to usual of stacking all the faster cars into group 1, and let the excels/or other slower cars have their own group

Robby

This only spat thru turn 6 entry,... will jsut have to see...



I like your posts, it give me something to post back too... Like i said this morning, you suprised me that its only around the minute, with the look and hype of the starlet, i thought it was Super Quick...

I'lkl assure you without sounding as cocky as you with your above bolded comment, i am well into your leauge, but i was in an excel, and i will be a bit more, i really enjoy it... but rest assured, we will have to compare times when we get the ecu back into the S14 and tune it... low 59's with 250 hp and blown headgasket...

now new engine bigger turbo, ecu, elf fuel, and willwood rear brakes, as well as some aero...

Looking forward to dipping into some great times...




Were you in group 2???

I had the silvia turn around on turn 2 infront of me!

Big ups to her for being out there... plan is to have my fiance out there, but at 5 motnhs pregnant, she can wait a while... But i found not just said silvia driver, people spend WAY to much time worrying about what going on around them than driving... as stated in the breifing, if overtaking its the problem of the OVERTAKER if something goes wrong...

Worry about yourself, enjoy the fun of motorsport, and push yourself toward getting some good numbers down...

As for dropping back and waiting for a big gap to get a run, IN a hyundai this doesn't happen, if u slow down you get lapped HAHA and usualy by people who like to go fast unto the track has a bend in it

PRO050

So you make it personal by calling me a moron for me saying it takes experience to find a good lap and then you say what they should do, does this comment come from EXPERIENCE if so then you agree with my comment and just want to make a personal attack.
Don't stress "hate" I'm a big boy and can take it on the chin but would rather it be in person than from a keyboard cowboy.
I'm at all the sprints at Lakeside come over and say hi, my number is 114 for my falcon and if I've got my excel there 115.
Cheers Paul

Mounfield Racing

Your comment has merit. Comments taken and I understand your frustration, but surely you also understand that you paid the same entry fee as the slowest driver on the day be it male or female. Given the number of entries it may have been better for QR to have run 5 groups with less laps per session but that i am sure would not have been well received either. There is however plenty of opportunity to compete in other events where traffic is not an issue and quickest times are the order of the day..e.g Gatton Street Sprints, Carnell Race Way, Rocky Street Sprints, Leyburn to name a few. I say thanks to QR and Time Attack for attracting such a large number of competitors.

Robby

^^^ Well Said!

PRO050

My wife gets away with calling me that, usally when she find out how much I spending on race cars.
Nice drive up north mate, have to really trust your co-driver
Cheers Paul

PRO050

The bikes running an hour late didn't help either.

Mounfield Racing

Hats off to Paul, Robby and anyone else on here that has made constructive comments. Forget about running with very slow and/or very fast cars at QR/Track Attack Sprints, my only concern is the fact it's a 5 - 6 hr drive to get to QR then after the event dragging a trailer another 5-6 hrs to get home. Hardly a QR problem lol.

Bring on the next event. Rocky Street Sprints.

zuboo

I can understand some peoples problems, with slow cars, i was put in group 1 with a borrowed car, i put a time of 66 down on the paper work but the car was duel entered so we needed to be put somewhere, i ended up doing 1:03s most the day but knowing i was going to run slower than the fast cars in group 1, i made sure i was always last in the line to head out, that way I had plenty of room to do what i wanted and did not spend my time trying to get out the way, the leaders only court me on the last lap, but knowing the rules of QR the last car always gets 5 laps which i got every run, so the cars that got 6 laps in i expect a thank you LOL

I watched group 3 a bit, as the other driver was racing in that group, and saw every one grouped in a small area of the track, some of the problems was what looked like an Audi going slow on the bends and fast on the straights so no-one could over take, and the cars behind not willing to slow down to get a clear run, harry who was the driver i was watching, just slowed down for the first 2 laps till the lead cars were close and went hard for the other 3 and never had traffic problems,

One bit i did laugh at was how we were warned in the drivers briefing on stuff i have read the XL boy have done like trying to grid up on the worm up lap. Got a smile out of me.

Robby

Zubo - I haven't seen it but i have been told guys were making it into a rolling start kind of thing...

As its said... aim of the day is 1 quick lap! its not a race...

My plan was be faster than the rest of my family there.... haha I don't care whats there or who is in what session... Time on the sheet at the end of the day

hate_

I'm in group 1 . I spent 2 years in group 2 and 3 with a 120hp car before hand just learning how to drive.



Man, You can try and insult my car/my times all day. I couldn't give a rats arse
It's only got 180ph and its competing against cars with twice the power. plus I've
only driven it with the new engine twice .. I'm happy with it
This isn't a dick swinging contest or 12 year olds , "my cars better than you're car"
I drive at the sprints because I want to push myself and the car to it's limits.

I'm not trying to have a dig at anyone or make it personal, It's just something I observed on the day.
If you pulled your heads back in and realised I was just making an observation you wouldn't have your back up.




Don't mix your words Paul, You said "it takes an experience driver to find a gap to give you some room" not " it takes an experienced driver to find a good lap"

I'm no were near as experienced as some of the drivers. I've only been driving QR for 3-4 years. However I do know for a fact.
That if you drive in packs of 4-5 cars you will go slower than having plenty of open track. Weather you are in 500hp porches or a 80hp excels
It's technically "Keyboard Warrior" and don't worry I'm not stressing I'll probably be at the next lakeside so I'll definitely come say hello.

I appreciate all types of cars and anyone who is keeping the racing on tracks rather than the street. However so far from what I have seen at lakeside and QR the "MAJORITY" or the excel series drivers (not saying all of you) Seem to think that the sprints are some sort of head to head race. Which in turn effects the rest of us sprint drivers who have been doing this for a few years without this sort of problem ?
Clearly lakeside and QR management share the same concern , other wise we would not be getting the extra lectures in Drivers Briefing.

You want to race head to head and "think" that driving around in packs is fun. Piss off to the Topgear. Or pull your heads in and start driving sprints.. Is that to hard to understand ?

hate_

You do realise you just said the exact same thing I just said... Sure It was in a much nicer way, I don't see why we are arguing about
something we agree on ?

FidEL

OMFG u @#$!s whinge more than drifters after a dodgy decision

Back on topic however I had a great time out there yesterday in the Rock Off Green & Red Excel in group 3 - sorry to any traffic I cut off whilst understeering!

fireball

what it seems to me is that QR is just doin a money grabbing exercise. what was traditionally the saturday arvo SPRINTS where we did 4 sessions of the SPRINT circuit is no more, cos instead of giving the ppl who want to enter the sprints, we are now lumped with the track attack people.

if track attack wants to book the track for their use , then QR should give them a track day for their track use , NOT toss em in with the people who are entered for the SPRINT arvo. Cos now the people who ARE entered for the sprint arvo only get 2 runs on the sprint circuit to get their best time, instead of 4 Not only that, cos now that the track attack guys are lumped in, there is of course an over subscription to the track day leading to potential biffs on track from too many cars on the track at one time leading to a poor chance of actually getting a clean run in at all.

my other gripe stems from the fact that ppl are getting points allocated to the sat arvo sprint ppl (NOT TA guys) whilst running SLICKS. i've had many chats with doug who has said, cos it is for road registered cars ,SLICKS are not permitted and if u run them u would NOT get points. one offender being the porsche GT3 on michelin full slicks but if they aren't goin to police their own rules, fk me i might as well run slicks in the future just to see how fast i can go .

scooby36

err who said it was trackattack that decided on the clubman layout?!?

and maybe if QR had a website which showed bookings like TA does, then youd have an idea of how busy it was going to be.

fireball

only track attack entries get points for doing times on the clubman circuit. the sat arvo sprint entries only get points for the sprint layout. the times we do on the clubman circuit dont even appear on the results so only 2runs on the sprint layout to try and get a clean run when we had 3 before

been doin sprints for the last 5years and not once have we done the clubman layout on a SAT ARVO sprint day.

PRO050

I do run Top Gear in my Falcon "hate" just so you know.
So how many cars were held up in group 2 buy excels? none I dare say. I watch my mirrors and really wasn't passed by that many cars, but I pick my spot in the group and in the pits if i see a faster car directly behind me let them go by.
What cars or car number held you up "hate" in what group?
3 to 4 years of sprinting and you can't get a clean lap in mmmm.
What I think is you have a beef with a few drivers and throw everyone in the same boat.

trackattack

They normally run 5 groups of up to 20 cars. The reason that we were all jammed into 4 full groups was that the GEAR boys had a whole group to themselves with only 6 or 7 cars.



Its pretty common for the bikes and V8 days to run to 12:30-1:00 on a saturday arvo.



QR is a business maximising its profits like any other business.
If they have 100 slots they want to fill 100 slots
I guess they could offer 50 slots at twice the price to achieve the same return
but maybe people wouldn't want to pay that much ?




That was nothing to do with us, I think that Greg who did the breifing normally does wed arvo sprints and got the events mixed up.

hate_

Yeah That was just Greg's screw up , nothing to do with Trackattack

Do you even read my posts before replying ? Or do you just click reply and start dribbling ..
I WAS'NT RACING ON SATURDAY !
Excels are never in my group.
Where did I ever say I can't ever get a clean lap in ?
How could I have a beef with drivers who I don't even race against.
and I said Several times, Not all the excels were doing it just the Majority.
Seriously were you drop as a child ? Or are you just a downy ?

I put the effort into reading and taking note of your replies.. You can read can't you ?

At the end of the day though, If you don't want to do better times and you want to drive
around in your little groups. Don't listen to me. I couldn't careless.
Cause more accidents and drive up the price for the rest of us

You guys are jumping in on our Sprint series to hold your excel sprint series.
The lest you could do is try respect the style of racing it is..

I'm not going to say anymore on the topic cause A it doesn't really effect me
and B sounds like your not listening.

CA$H

you should check out the trackattack website before you start typing.

http://www.trackattack.com.au/2010/index.p...esult&pr=42

you'll see they don't get points for the clubman circuit either.. it was just a mix up with the day that's all.
now go on and apologize

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Robby

I like shit stir, and this thread has ample!
Mr Barry - i see u reading, EVO is looking tops!

57ING

Cheers mate, had fun all day, ran a PB, but street tyres were shit all day..............

hate_

I skim read stir as Sir then had to go back and double check.


What was your PB 57ING ?

That porsche in group 1 was putting down some good times too

Robby

I came for the Sprints chat, Stayed for the LOL'z

57ING

That Porsche was doing 56's..............

zuboo

was the porsche on slicks or street tyres doing that time

Blur

Wasnt the Porsche on full slicks??

Im one of the newbies on the sprint scene. Its difficult to have parity amongst everyone, especially as there is so many levels of ability in drivers, cars and experience. I think most people were fairly cautious, and some will take away from the day as lessons learnt, remember not everyone is a born racing driver everyone was new to this at one stage, as long as your having fun and not hurting yourself or others including property, then so be it.

HRD-GTR

can we keep the excel talk/whinging to the excel thread? I'd rather not have to skip 3 pages of crap every time there's an excel at a sprint.

Marlin

YES!!!! Please please please for the love of GOD!

PRO050

"Hate" I did read your post and knew you weren't running and also guessed you would have never run in the excel group, but couldn't resist the G up.
Sorry, but did enjoy your last post
How about we keep it on the track.

hate_

I figured as much

We were actually thinking about joining the excel series, however probably going to wait till next year when all the rules have
been sorted out.

Still coming to say hi at lakeside though Hopefully steal some ideas/and lines off you to get my times down

trackattack

The bugger was all over me at the last race day at lakeside, that falcon has got some handling in it