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nick#07
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Post #1 post 2nd November 2009 - 03:33 PM
i only heard about them not too long ago but were they only released in the states or what ?

does anyone know if they're decent engines considering they're a 2.4ltr

would they be a prick to source parts for if you bought one over here from overseas and wacked it in a car as opposed to an sr20 or ca18

ALSO !!!!!!!!!! does anyone know why mitsubishi eclipses werent released over here ? anyone ever drove one, are they shit or what i think some models look alright.

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Marcus89
Post #2

not worth it in America most of the guys convert the ka24de to sr20's

clutch-monkey
Post #3

QUOTE (nick#07 @ Nov 3 2009, 09:33 AM) *
i only heard about them not too long ago but were they only released in the states or what ?

does anyone know if they're decent engines considering they're a 2.4ltr

would they be a prick to source parts for if you bought one over here from overseas and wacked it in a car as opposed to an sr20 or ca18

i don't know my nissan's but i see to recall they were in a different nissan (maybe a maxima or bluebird or soemthing? or a light truck?) before being dropped into US spec S13's?
i've heard they're pretty tough and respond well to boost, assume aftermarket in the US is huge.
QUOTE (nick#07 @ Nov 3 2009, 09:33 AM) *
ALSO !!!!!!!!!! does anyone know why mitsubishi eclipses werent released over here ? anyone ever drove one, are they shit or what i think some models look alright.

because they're LHD only, and shit.

_Ben
Post #4

AFAIK they are a badly designed engine, sr20 is far superior.

nick#07
Post #5

QUOTE (clutch-monkey @ Nov 3 2009, 09:38 AM) *
i don't know my nissan's but i see to recall they were in a different nissan (maybe a maxima or bluebird or soemthing? or a light truck?) before being dropped into US spec S13's?
i've heard they're pretty tough and respond well to boost, assume aftermarket in the US is huge.


because they're LHD only, and shit.


yeah i just had an idea of bringing one over and putting a ka24det or just a de into a track car, but only if they're decent engines.

and for the mitsubishi eclipses, define "shit" hsdance.gif

neil_se
Post #6

The yanks only use them because that's what they got stuck with from factory.

nick#07
Post #7

QUOTE (_Ben @ Nov 3 2009, 09:40 AM) *
AFAIK they are a badly designed engine, sr20 is far superior.

how are they badly designed ?

clutch-monkey
Post #8

QUOTE (nick#07 @ Nov 3 2009, 09:42 AM) *
and for the mitsubishi eclipses, define "shit" hsdance.gif

weak. slow. girl's car. only sold in America for a reason
heh i guess like KA24de powered S13's mamoru.gif

nick#07
Post #9

QUOTE (clutch-monkey @ Nov 3 2009, 09:52 AM) *
weak. slow. girl's car. only sold in America for a reason
heh i guess like KA24de powered S13's mamoru.gif

fair enough so what... just stay on the sr, 1-2j, or rb path ?

Godzilladat
Post #10


They are actually a decent motor, but you generally wouldn't bother building one up.

Locally we got the ka24e in U13 bluebirds in fwd format. We did also get the ka24de in navara's in RWD configuration.

What car are you building?

nick#07
Post #11

QUOTE (Godzilladat @ Nov 3 2009, 10:14 AM) *
They are actually a decent motor, but you generally wouldn't bother building one up.

Locally we got the ka24e in U13 bluebirds in fwd format. We did also get the ka24de in navara's in RWD configuration.

What car are you building?


looking at starting a track car at the beginning of the new year,

either a 180, s13 or cheap s14

57ING
Post #12

Pintara TRX's had these motors didnt they?

the_random_hero
Post #13

QUOTE (nick#07 @ Nov 3 2009, 10:27 AM) *
looking at starting a track car at the beginning of the new year,

either a 180, s13 or cheap s14


S14 + 2JZGTE = epic amounts of win.

bop001
Post #14

QUOTE (the_random_hero @ Nov 3 2009, 11:05 AM) *
S14 + 2JZGTE = epic amounts of win.


And understeer oopsie.gif .

Just stick with the SR20. Cheap, light, lots of aftermarket support.

Why bother being different....like everyone else, especially with a KA24 mamoru.gif ? dunno.gif

EK1.6LCIV
Post #15

not a bad engine (they work well for their market), there's a few companies over there dishing out 400hp crate engine packages for their market



eclipses can't be imported at all, unless you wanted one for a race car, people in the US would trade up an eclipse for an evo in a heartbeat over there to be completely honest lol

the_random_hero
Post #16

QUOTE (bop001 @ Nov 3 2009, 11:09 AM) *
And understeer oopsie.gif .

Just stick with the SR20. Cheap, light, lots of aftermarket support.

Why bother being different....like everyone else, especially with a KA24 mamoru.gif ? dunno.gif


2JZ's aren't THAT much heavier than the SR, and it can be mounted right up against the firewall for better weight distribution. Only thing that sucks is fitting a decent external gate, last one we did it had to be mounted waaaaaaaaaaaaay low.

wooley
Post #17

the reason behind the whole eclipse thing is that the awd tt version are light for the power the produce so they dont meet the australia guidelines.

GTRVspec95
Post #18

My old mechanic had one dishing out almost 270FWKW's IIRC and had it running 150fwkw's for almost 3 years when he boosted it as a stock motor in his AUDM U13 Bluebird.

However, because you can get a hold of an SR powered Silvia it's not worth the trouble of sourcing the KA24DE and swapping it in.

GTRVspec95
Post #19

QUOTE (the_random_hero @ Nov 3 2009, 11:05 AM) *
S14 + 2JZGTE LS1 = epic amounts of win.


Fixed

EUniqe
Post #20

just cos an eclipse was in the fast and the furious deosn't mean it's a good car.

Evaded Motorsport
Post #21

Ken from Accurate Suspension was building one for his 1600, not sure what happened to it but if anyone knows him and his car he must of had good reasons for doing it.

EK1.6LCIV
Post #22

QUOTE (EUniqe @ Nov 3 2009, 02:04 PM) *
just cos an eclipse was in the fast and the furious deosn't mean it's a good car.


you would've loved the ads they used to have for the car years before the movie

the fking thing was jumping hills and shit, lol
1600dave
Post #23

KA24DE is actually a pretty good bit of gear. In many ways, they are a better design than the SR20. They have a proper cam-on-bucket valve train (no dodgy rockers like an SR20), bigger main bearings / crank journals than an SR20, bigger valves / bigger ports than an SR20. There are plenty of aftermarket performance parts available for them from the US, where KA24DE's have put out some very big power numbers.

As mentioned above, in Australia they were available in U13 bluebirds (in FWD form) and in some Navara's (in RWD form). The motor in the TRX pintara's was the KA24E (a single cam, 12 valve version - it was a 4 cylinder with 3 valves per cylinder). KA24DE is twin cam, 24 valve.

They are an evolution from the L-series motors (L16, L18, L20B, etc) that have successfully powered many different Datsun / Nissans for many years - its actually possible to retrofit the 12 valve heads to a Datsun L20B bottom end with a little bit of work (also possible to fit the twin cam head, although there's a bit more work there).

One reason they are often replaced with SR20's in the US version of the S13 is because the KA24 was never released in turbo format (and because everyone automatically thinks SR20's are better becasue that's what came in Jap-spec S13's, etc rolleyes.gif ).

If you want to be different, there are plenty of worse motors to pick (although there are probably better ones as well). Won't be as cheap as an SR20 though by the time you buy aftermarket stuff to turbo it, get an ecu to run the turbo'd motor, etc

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