Which Toyota, Chaser, Supra Or Soarer - which do u see best?  

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Dicko1
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Post #1 post 7th May 2008 - 04:10 AM
hi, im currently a P plater who is held back by the restrictions that go with them. But when i get my full licence i hav my eyes set on buyin a Toyota mainly to do with the strength of the 1j and 2j engines. My question is, wat is everyone's opinion on which is best from the: Supra, Chaser and Soarer?

I know the Supra is gunna make the most power of them all but im not wantin just big power. the Chaser would b good as a cruiser as u can take all ur mates along 4 a cruise. and well the Soarer is 1 of those cars u either like or u dont but it still has the huge potential under the bonnet with the 1J.

i want to hear all the positives and negatives that any1 can tell me, and ppl's experiences from ownin either of the 3. the models im most interested in r JZA80 supra, JZX100 Chaser and JZZ30 Soarer.

lookin forward to ur input facesjump.gif

This post has been edited by Dicko1: May 7 2008, 04:11 AM

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zzz
Post #2

Chaser.

They look mean and not too many people have cought onto what they are yet.

8OSANAC
Post #3

haven't owned one but if your buying it because of strength but your under the current laws then theres no point, well your not gonig to be boosting it.

1. I wouldn't get a soarer unless its a 1jz but you can't have that but only the 2jz n/a which is said to be way underpowered.

2. I rarely seen a JZX100 non turbo have a good look around they'll most likely come with a 2jz n/a aswell i guess.

3. Well the supra you know 2jz n/a seem to go alright in them with a new slight mods. driven one after its major service, didn't really go all that hard although it was stock.

zzz
Post #4

He's not buying one until he's off his P's.

Raym
Post #5

Heh, im in the same boat, looking for either a JZX100 or a JZZ31 (vvti, non turbo one) at the end of the year, and this is what i've found:

JZX100

PRO's
good fuel economy for the type of car
lots of torque down low
spacious
semi luxury
sleeper/rare

CON's
expensive (for manual and/or insurace)
parts hard to get
parts cost a fair bit
rare
no cruise control

Soarer

PRO's
parts are easier to source
cheaper to buy
luxurious
cruise control (for the high spec cars anyway)

CON's
little space for the back
heavier
more common (less 'wow' factor)
automatic (for me anyway)
getting kinda old... they were first released in 1991 after all

And this is not including some of the 'common' problems on both cars.

I dont like Supras simply because theres absolutely zero back seat.

nash
Post #6

Different price ranges for those three. You can get cheap soarers around 5k now if you look hard enough. Leaves you a lot of money for mods. If you want the most potential then definitely a 6 speed Supra.

Raym
Post #7

A good late model (VVTi 1JZ) Soarer are still around 18k, where as an auto Tourer V is around the same, a manual though.... look at about 25k for a tidy one.

Sif buy a 5k Soarer anyway, it'll have so many things wrong that you'll prolly need another 10 to fix everything dunno.gif

mark1414
Post #8

I got a soarer they are great but I would deffently rather a JZX100 Chaser they are abit rare (which is good) but expensive because of that.

In the future looking to upgrade to a JZA80 Supra so there is my answer.

Ohh and Soarers do come in manual.

'JayRad
Post #9

i bet you probably just got your P's too didnt you, so whats the point in this thread?

your decision will change by then, so please dont make a thread for every car you think of buying in 3 years time.

ot: chaser!

nash
Post #10

QUOTE(Raym @ May 7 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]1282300206[/snapback]

A good late model (VVTi 1JZ) Soarer are still around 18k, where as an auto Tourer V is around the same, a manual though.... look at about 25k for a tidy one.

Sif buy a 5k Soarer anyway, it'll have so many things wrong that you'll prolly need another 10 to fix everything dunno.gif


Late model soarers are still 10 years or older. Hardly a newish car. If you're going to swap the suspension and put a new turbo etc then might as well save money on a cheap one as long as its body is straight. The market for imports is plummeting, pay anywhere near 18k for a standard soarer and you're getting fleeced.

Dicko1
Post #11

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Chaser.

They look mean and not too many people have cought onto what they are yet.


yeah i beleive they look mean aswell and they're somethin different

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He's not buying one until he's off his P's.


good 2 see some1 can read aswell lol

Raym
Post #12

QUOTE(nash @ May 7 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]1282300237[/snapback]

Late model soarers are still 10 years or older. Hardly a newish car. If you're going to swap the suspension and put a new turbo etc then might as well save money on a cheap one as long as its body is straight. The market for imports is plummeting, pay anywhere near 18k for a standard soarer and you're getting fleeced.


I'd quite happily pay 18k for one in mint condition, no screwing around with workshops, etc. Theres a late model GTT-L (it looks like anyway) with just about everything on soarercentral for $17k something, if i was looking to buying one like that, i'd have no probs slapping down the cash knowing that the car has been well cared for.

masofasn8r
Post #13

2JZ POWER biggrin.gif.... supra or aristo... take ya pick

Dicko1
Post #14

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i bet you probably just got your P's too didnt you, so whats the point in this thread?

your decision will change by then, so please dont make a thread for every car you think of buying in 3 years time.

ot: chaser!


i hav about a year left on my p's. im actually thinkin of buyin a sleeper cressida to drive, despite the laws, until i can go all out on 1 of these ^^^^

'JayRad
Post #15

your obviously lying. if you have the power restriction laws, then you obviously got your licence from the 1st of july? last year, which means you have alot more than 1 year to get onto your P's.

cheungah
Post #16

Chaser biggrin.gif I love my sedans... Aristo is more a cruiser... chaser well it's like the middle man between Aristo and Supra biggrin.gif

Dicko1
Post #17

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your obviously lying. if you have the power restriction laws, then you obviously got your licence from the 1st of july? last year, which means you have alot more than 1 year to get onto your P's.


oh well 12-18 months, still less then the 3 years than u thought i would hav left. lol

also i've heard that the chaser is lighter than the supra, does any1 kno if its tru?

bop001
Post #18

simply put supra....

sure its heavier. but its a supra.

nash
Post #19

Supras are under 1400kg iirc. I can't see a chaser being less than that.

5rki
Post #20

Supra baby. Titan motorsport stroker kit ftw, go crazy.

'JayRad
Post #21

QUOTE(Dicko1 @ May 7 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]1282300320[/snapback]

oh well 12-18 months, still less then the 3 years than u thought i would hav left. lol

also i've heard that the chaser is lighter than the supra, does any1 kno if its tru?


more like 25 months minimum.

IP45TU
Post #22

QUOTE('JayRad @ May 7 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]1282300288[/snapback]

your obviously lying. if you have the power restriction laws, then you obviously got your licence from the 1st of july? last year, which means you have alot more than 1 year to get onto your P's.


He isn't lying as I'm pretty certain the restrictions for NSW drivers came in 1st July 2005 smile.gif






OT: Chaser because as previously there isn't alot around and they have some massive potential. Besides, I know you have had your eye on the chaser tongue.gif

'JayRad
Post #23

hahaha fail tongue.gif

Dicko1
Post #24

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hahaha fail


????? fail wat?

rally_beast
Post #25

go the aristo dude
you will pick up the sheelahs fo sho

Dicko1
Post #26

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Supras are under 1400kg iirc. I can't see a chaser being less than that.


googled it and chasers r 1480kg so roughly the same

Granthem
Post #27

QUOTE(Raym @ May 7 2008, 10:22 PM) [snapback]1282300170[/snapback]

Heh, im in the same boat, looking for either a JZX100 or a JZZ31 (vvti, non turbo one) at the end of the year, and this is what i've found:

JZX100

PRO's
good fuel economy for the type of car
lots of torque down low
spacious
semi luxury
sleeper/rare

CON's
expensive (for manual and/or insurace)
parts hard to get
parts cost a fair bit
rare
no cruise control



They seem to be exxy in aus, but the price people are actually buying them for is a joke! JSPEC has a number of tidy manuals around the 15k mark. So honestly, people wacking another 5 grand on the manuals when they come over are just ripping people off. search around but to import they are cheaper.

mmmm chaser

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dommie13
Post #28

chaser ftw

Nismoboi
Post #29

QUOTE(Granthem @ May 8 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]1282300990[/snapback]

They seem to be exxy in aus, but the price people are actually buying them for is a joke! JSPEC has a number of tidy manuals around the 15k mark. So honestly, people wacking another 5 grand on the manuals when they come over are just ripping people off. search around but to import they are cheaper.

mmmm chaser

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hey grant is that the one with the huge ding up the passenger side

anyways mate its your call no matter what ppl say your the one whom has to live witht the decision my mate bought a na supra and went back to a 33..apparently it was a waste of money and if he buys another one it has to to be turbo but anys

steve32
Post #30

QUOTE(Granthem @ May 8 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]1282300990[/snapback]

They seem to be exxy in aus, but the price people are actually buying them for is a joke! JSPEC has a number of tidy manuals around the 15k mark. So honestly, people wacking another 5 grand on the manuals when they come over are just ripping people off. search around but to import they are cheaper.

mmmm chaser

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shit box manual street drifters ..auto to manual conversion high klm or mileage unknown start around 15k mark..nice honest cars start at 20k..and go up depending on klms ..i`ve worked on the cheapies and most are turds ...you get what you pay for ..nobodys ripping anyone off
i also have a 2JZ NA chaser coming up for sale next week pretty rare car ..if anyones interested

HUN51
Post #31

Well all i can say to you advise wise is this.
Get something your comfortable in. if you feel uncofy in a supra dont buy it.(example) and buy what you want not what other people tell you to buy, otherwise you will never be happy.
I have a soarer and it is a factory 5 speed manual.
and yes im spending alot on mods as i brought it stock so i have a fair idea it wouldnt have been thrashed. I feel really comfy in my car and Im happy i brought it.
I also have a plan to where and what i want to do with the car so i sujest you also look into some direction aswell.

HSV
Post #32

Chasers were 98% Auto which is why manuals are so rare and expensive to buy. Dependent on the model of Chaser, depends on the weight. They ARENT exxy to buy parts for if you know where to look, they share the same suspension components as the JZX90 (EXACTLY) as well as other items. Easy to get power out of if needed. Buy a Supra and get the whole "Supra" tax that everybody charges when selling Supra gear.

Raym
Post #33

Oh yeah, by parts hard to get i mean panels, glass, interior trim etc since theres not many JZX100's in the country. Mechanical parts i imagine you can get relatively easily... expensive none the less.

IP45TU
Post #34

Won't you have trouble getting parts of sort for any import though dunno.gif

Raym
Post #35

QUOTE(IP45TU @ May 8 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]1282301212[/snapback]

Won't you have trouble getting parts of sort for any import though dunno.gif


If they're really common (s13, Soarer, Skyline) then i imagine they'd be pretty easy to get. JZX100's are still pretty new to the country.

Wasnt there a thread a while ago about someone wanting a new door for a Chaser, and they had to wait for it to be shipped from Japan?

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