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evaded

That will be awesome NA :wub:

The L20B for the 1600 got dropped off yesterday along with all the parts for the rebuild so I am hoping to be out in November sometime however it will most likely be early next year as the car is also going down to be painted.

we shall see though

GTRVspec95

I know what you mean ...

K24a would be a 'big block' for my car

So you've chosen not to go the forced induction route ?

jezza323

nope, no forced induction for me

think i was dropped on my head as a child. $3-4k for a 4efte conversion......or..........$5k+ for a 1.5L n/a with cams, high CR, quad throttles etc.

guess which will put out more power.......and more torque...

lil_mike

you'll have more fun with NA i think. so much more responsive and less issues than turbo *cough* rotary *cough*

we are actually looking at ripping the 12a out of the mx-5 if we cant fix its issues and putting something else in. hoping for NA powah of a 1UZ-FE. cams, rods, pistons, valves and a de-stroke. would love to be revving to 5 digits

jezza323

think you will need a very deep pocket to hit 10,000 rpm with a 1UZ

lil_mike

yeah, but it'll cost less than this rotary

i wouldnt really attempt it but it would be nice. i'd say 8000 would be achievable.

GTRVspec95

So long as it pullz da chix moite

You'll have to give us some reasons to your thoughts about choosing the NA ...

I choose to go the NA route because all the turbo cars I like are unreliable



F20C would be nice

lil_mike

hmmmm $1000 1UZ, or a $10000 F20C? i think i know which one i'd go for

after pricing all the parts i'd need i'd be looking at around $8-$10k to build the 1UZ to the level i'd want. still cheaper than the honda engine too plus there is no comparison to the sound of a high revving, small capacity v8, mmmmmmm.

but its all up in the air, so nothing is certain until we find out what we can ACTUALLY do with my car.

EDIT: "theoretically" the 1UZ has the potential to rev higher than the F20C too jamie i've been doing a lot of research

Minko

What did you buy after the skyline?


For those with vid camera's in your car...which ones do you have? I wouldnt mind getting one but 1-2K is a bit steep to be thrown around in a track car.

Rookie ROX

Why not buy a fairly reasonable Handycam and then fabricate a camera mount, or buy a camera mount off Ebay?

You can get a fairly decent DVD video camera for about $600, more if you want one with an inbuilt harddrive, less if you use tapes and have a firewire port on your computer.

ROCK ON
R~R

SIN61

soft stick it out, it will be worth it

lil_mike

it might not be possible at all. we're getting a specialist out to see what he can do soon. if that fails the engine will be sold off and make way for a bigger, reliable one that doesnt kill everything it touches with Aids.

jezza323

yeah id stick with the rotary, its already in there...13b would be better for getting parts n stuff though

i dont know if you will get a 1UZ in there simply due to legal capacity limits, not without some sort of frame engineering anyway.

i decided to stick with n/a cos i love the sound a sorted N/A with ITB's or carbs makes. also for throttle response. big power doesnt excite me much...i prefer the lateral G forces

will just be a learning experience for me putting this motor together. it is a paseo engine, which means 1.5L, but bolts straight onto standard mounts etc.

lil_mike

its not a matter of choice, we literally might not be able to use the rotary due to alignment problems. if i can i'll stick with the rotary. otherwise the whole setup will have to be scrapped.

1UZ just makes it under the limit by about 10cc's going off stock manufacturer's weight. Bullet Supercars used to put them in theirs as well, but they were entirely new vehicles.

SIN61

well, i like aids, so merr

lil_mike

would you like a good quality rotary setup then

jezza323

id hardly call it good quality after the number of issues you have had

NFS13B has very little trouble with his 13b turbo mx5 (back when it was not a track only car)

lil_mike

yeah, the guy before him removed the part that's causing half of the troubles.

everythign but the driveline is fine in my car. its just none of it fits together properly it seems........but it all works, somehow?

SIN61

sounds...ummm.....interesting lol. what problems are you having with it?

GTRVspec95

Grenade spec



Honda Civic



Mount ... whats this talk of mounts ???

Get some race tap ...

Open up the passengers head rest up enough to fit the cam corder ...

Clamp the cam corder in the the head rest ...

Tape up head rest and cam corder like you would your younger sibling when your parents weren't watching ...

And VOILA !!! Instant mounted camera !!!

lil_mike

well.........i wont start from the beginning. but our current problem is that the gearbox wont come up level to the diff. here's the full story


i'm not telling, but i can tell you it would work better than you think all i will say is that it is possible for under $10k. thats doing most of the labour myself though

SIN61

hmmmm ok, i was going to suggest the hole engine mounts thing, but looks like its a no go. hmmm sure something will pop up eventually.

jezza323

i just use my digital camera to take my vids, its attached to my headrest on the passenger seat using a headrest TFT mount from Jaycar

SIN61

unless you got a freaking s5 rx7 that has non head hight adjustable things . its ok though, im hooking up a mount to the half cage

lil_mike

zip ties + front bar + camera

it'll work......hopefully

SIN61

i like your thinking

lil_mike

just avoid the sand traps.....




.....and of course heavy objects. you know, like walls.

MEV09

i have a little mount that bolts into the baby seat bolt in, fits good and pics are clear as hell, was a pitty i didn't have my camera set properly, it kept turning off after 5 minutes.

Minko

Its a good excuse to buy a cage so i have a decent mounting point. Think ill just grab a cheapy off ebay & see how it goes

Rookie ROX

I threw together a setup that used the headrest mounts and a pole that brought the camera to sit just above the dash, it was great...until I replaced the drivers seat with a racing one.

There's a S15 (I think, could have been in a different car) that uses a nice mount that sits in the headrest holes and juts over to position in between the two seats.

Some ingenuity, some scrap metal and a broken tripod and you're set

Or a suction cup mount camera mount from Ebay..

ROCK ON
R~R

jezza323

also be careful getting cameras which record direct to dvd or harddrive, ive heard they dont like the vibration in a car while going around the track

Mezevenf

This is true for all cameras, I killed my last cam from this when I had my front shocks set to their hardest. I have a hard drive Sony cam now and I'm not game to mount it in car for this reason...

Also a wide-angle lens makes things pretty kewl too.

MEV09

i have a sony hd 60 gig and i have used it in the car fine, has anti shock.

SIN61

my vid cam cost me 30 dorra

so i dont really give a shit about it

MEV09

was out at the QR champs on the weekend, some nice cars out there. finished 2nd in my class but i was in a v6 against v8's :S