New Impound Laws (1/7/7) - Now in effect - Information Inside :)  

cheungah

wow... that is real tough... more like far too strict. Looks like jobs and businesses will be on the line for this as will rival competition too. Lets hope this trial doesn't become something permanent.

tissue

Excuse my language, but for fucks sake - its not about modifications. Its about defective vehicles. Before someone goes off half-cocked about police targeting modified vehicles I think you can look at this thread as proof. Unless you have a mod plate or have done your research, quite a few people dont really have a clue if their car is defective or not. But they are still modifying it anyway.

Every thread I read about people being targeted says why dont they look at the rust bucket that went past, etc well now they have the power to. Its just that unless people get their act together and modify their car to a better standard than currently, this will keep happening. If you keep your own nose clean then you shouldnt have anything to worry about.

Lux_V8

Yep! Smell those fumes. ADR's?? What are those?? Pre 71 cars are fun

They smell me coming!

Rookie ROX

Please leave this thread. Your logical common sense and evidence of brains detracts from the rest.



Yes please stay in Japan, your lack of knowledge won't be missed.

There's no such thing as quotas. Simple.

Japan doesn't require the same laws because they have a much more stringent program for getting your licence. Living there you should know that.

Having said that, you CANNOT compare a country with a completely different culture and attitude towards something. It's that simple.



Haha. Not a chance in hell. People who've been wrongly imprisoned for years don't get any compensation, they're just going to laugh in your face when you try and ask for some after a car was impounded.



:prey:

The amount of 'why did i get defected for wheels' and 'whats the biggest wheels i can go' threads filled with 'ah 2 inch' replies shows that.

Oddly (no, not really), nobody has mentioned how good these laws will be for the wankers who keep drink driving, or drive unlicenced because they pick up their car the next day. I hardly see how it's targetting 'hoons' when a court appearance for a defectable vehicle is just one small category of other offences. But hey, let's all don the "Government sux ass" hat.

But yes, I'm sure millions of people will sign a petition....oh...wait...that's the whole population of Queensland!

ROCK ON
R~R

200sx_s13

yes that is a good point rookie, however also if say ur driving somone elses car such as a relatives and u get caught for the final time they can take possesion of the vehicle and sell it, as it goes on the drivers record, not the vehicle or the owner, now how fair is that? yes the driver deserves punishment but why shud someone else lose their car over it?

also can u truly say that defects deserve the same pnishment as drink driving and unlicenced driving? as i honestly dont aggree with it, these punishments are suitable for dd and unliceced, but not for minor defects, if its a canaried car that ,any times then possibly, but hey now u can get done and sent 2 court for no water in ur washer bottle, a tyre at its wear lines, no spare wheel in the car, although not all come with them, so how much sense does it all make truly to have minor defects the same as dd?

eighty-eight

id have to agree with that..^^

200sx_s13

link 2 press release
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queen...3351273795.html

wat'r

The Beattie government is determined to reduce Queensland's road toll and that's why we introduced these new vehicle confiscation laws

police can confiscate the vehicles of drivers who repeatedly
1.drink drive,
2.drive while unlicensed,
3.unregistered or disqualified, or
4.repeatedly drive illegally modified vehicles.

Number 1. I understand, if it is the road toll they want to reduce....

but 2,3, and 4 will have little effect or difference.

Go figure.

Rookie ROX

As much sense as it does to put the issue in the hands of a Magistrate.

If you were driving a relatives car and it was defected, and that was your fourth offence, I can guarantee a Magistrate isn't going to approve a 3 month impoundment, let alone have the car confiscated and sold. A minor defect would have the same result.

This isn't just a clean cut, 4 strikes goodbye, case. It all comes down to what the Magistrate views is a suitable punishment. If you're not happy with their decision, you've got another 3 levels of courts to go through.

Edit: How can 2, 3 and 4 have little affect? It's difficult to drive your car unlicenced when you don't have a car to drive

ROCK ON
R~R

wat'r

Seriously though if they wanted to introduce 4 things to reduce the road toll...

How about confiscations for:

1. Drink driving.
2. Driving with no seat belt.
3. Tailgating.
4. Drug driving.

This would have a bigger effect.

Just because you are unlicenced ( you may have lost it through SPER and parking fines for example ) or your car is unregistered.... does not mean you are a bad driver about to cause an accident.

Rookie ROX

No. You clearly are.

A good driver abides by the laws set by the relevant bodies. It doesn't matter if you're Michael Schumacher, the laws are there for a reason.

Now remember this is impoundment for committing the same offence at least twice. Obviously taking their licence away isn't getting the message through if they drive without it twice, so why not take away the vehicle?

If your car is unregistered it's most likely unroadworthy and unsafe.

And then of course for both, you're completely uninsured including CTP. So you hit someone, you'll be paying EVERYTHING out of your pocket.

Edit: FYI: Drug driving falls under the same classification as drink driving - It's all driving under the influence

ROCK ON
R~R

Mr-RX

No dont do that! That will take away my fun.

Trucks are gold when im on the highway, I save so much fuel by tailgating them

wat'r

I'd agree with most of that... but they should say the new penalties have been introduced as the current penalties are not stopping from re-offending etc etc.

They are using the road toll spin.

I might have a near new car, 100% roadworthy but just out of rego. This does not mean I have a greater chance of killing someone.

Same thing with a driver who has no traffic infringements what-so-ever....but has not re-newed his licence. You could say he is less risk that me with one 15km over speeding fine in 4 years.

Illegal and dangerous suspension mods = YES.
Illegal / excessive exhaust noise= NO.

The 4 offences I posted would help reduce the road toll more than the governments.

BTW...driving with no rego / CTP is the 2nd dumbest thing ( next to drink driving ) anyone can do.




Yeah

I know it works....but It can end in tears

200sx_s13

the best reasons for confisctaion is
1. DUI
2 . NO licence/unregistered
3. Multiple excessive Speeding offences within a 3yr period
4. Cannaried Vehicles (not minor self clearing defects) also should apply to the vehicle, not the person driving the vehicle

i see u learking there marz, whats ur opinions? lol

supraboiau

shut up fag

FC3STURBO

just backs up my comment.


thats more like it (thats towed car's right?)

200sx_s13

yup, the cannaried as in cars that are ordered off the road until all defects are cleared and presented to an inspection station.
however it shud only apply for ppl driving them before being cleared, as if its cleared dot have confirmed it is legal

FC3STURBO

thanks for clearing that up mate. big help

NIZ16

thanks rookie rox, i will stay here for abit, there seems to be a lack eliteism over here, compared to aus, funny that,

and yea i think you can compare two countrys with different cultures,as you wont ever two find different countries with exactly the same cultures, but you will get different opinions from different ppl

and in my opinion which should not upset you at all, because its my opinion, is that japan is a much more car enthuisiast friendly country, i dont yet know why the police over here in my opinion dont have the same over bearing approach, maybe with a much greater population theres not the need for the revenue thats raised from such activities, or maybe the police have alot more import issues to deal with???

i wonder at why you took my coments harshly and decided to have a go at me, i in way said japan is a better country than aus, or anything like that, but yea ive been involved in the cruising scene for a while, and i have seen alot of things that lead me to think in the direction that sometimes the police in queensland must opperate with some sort quota setup not in anit speeding blitz`s but in there mas defecting blitz`s

i know this is just my opinion and i welcome yours and why you think they wouldnt use these activities,

i know these laws a being introduced to reduce the increasing road toll,
but looking at the increased amount of vehicles on the road each year, and the increased amount of drivers, not all young, and looking to the future, both should continue to increase,
road tolls statisticly should increase too, it would be very hard to decrease the number of deaths, accidents, drink driving, and so on as there are just more and more ppl and vehicles on the road,
surely they have to expect a increase, or it is that what they expected is far out weighed by what that actuall figures are?????

Wolfie

fucking great...while most of my car is compliant mod wise i'm not in the country till August and have to take my car through ipswich since i live there (its not daily driven anymore but i'm not going to even want to drive it if i know EVERY cop is gonna be gunning to take cars off the road for petty shit until i can get in and have my newest mods being done now mod plated). The infinite wisdom of fucking morons never ceases to amaze me.

sooner I can apply for my US citizenship the better, I'll just bring my supra in as a track car.

Zirtech

im agreeing with some posts above regarding the fact that these magic 4 rules are the biggest load of bullshit i have seen!

police can confiscate the vehicles of drivers who repeatedly
1.drink drive,
2.drive while unlicensed,
3.unregistered or disqualified, or
4.repeatedly drive illegally modified vehicles.


To REDUCE the road toll why not try:

1. Drink driving
2. driving while smoking!!
3. speeding der!
4. driving while under the influence of a prohibited substance

etc etc

things that actually reduce road tolls....

modified cars dont kill people!

people kill people!

blacksupra

After reading that news article link I think this could be a good thing (prays I don't end up eating my words).

IMO someone driving an uninsured unregistered vehicle deserves everything they get ... as do drink drivers.

Time will only tell how far they go with the modification side of it.


P.S This is Ang

^sims^

I like that.. you are going in my signature

screwball

It's amazing how many people go nuts when they see this business arise.

I believe what they're trying to achieve is to give the police the power to remove from any 'undesirables' the ability to drive. I don't believe they're going to go around pulling over every car with an atmospheric blow off valve, taking their car away and sending them to the magistrate purely because they were there.

I believe that they're going to use this power to remove from the road any of the people they see driving such a car that is causing a ruckus, not simply because they happen to be commuting in it.

If you get pulled over for doing 7kp/h over the limit, I don't envisage that you'll be going to court, but if you get caught doing 17kp/h over, with your stereo going at 120dB and tyres still smoking from the peel-out you just pulled to impress the idiots egging you on at the broadwater carpark on a saturday night, then I think that's why they're giving the police this power; To get your idiot self off the road.

What the government need to realise is that if they take away all the hoon cars, all they're going to end up with is a bunch of hoons in standard cars. A stock Holden Commodore will pull just as mean a burnout as a souped up R32 Skyline (ok ok maybe not just as good, but still as loud and 'hoony').

I'd like to see a certain measure of this implemented permanently. The only thing they need to add is that the police need a video-taped example of what the court date is for, otherwise power-happy police will be doing what some police already do, and that's bend over some people who don't deserve it.

BDWO6

there not gona send every little defect to court. this is teh way teh new process works. if your car is ILLEGALY modified ie cut springs airbags external gate screemer pipe way too load or any other mod which cant be mod plated, then you will find yourself in court rather then going over the pits, and byt the time you actually get to court you probably wont own teh same car anyway, do u really think a courts around here can handle a decent defect spree from teh spit? u get defetced this sunday u wont even get to court for 6 months lol. this aint as severe as it seems. relax!

yeh fair enough it suck that an exhaust can c u in court when someone will rob a guy and get off but hey thats life, how do u think a pro rugby league player feels when he gets fined 20 grand for pissing in public and we only get fine 200 bucks? life can be unfair simple as that.lol

why dont all you fuckers give them a reason to stop with these laws rather then winge? 99% of us in here are hoons in one way or another so why winge, just get over it lol.

no pettion or voice of our will be heared, its just the way it is. dont give them a reason to pull u over would be a good start. yeh fair enough sometimes you dont do anything wrong and still get defected. so make sure your car aint rediculously modified and youll be fine

fuck ive got alot of shit to fix up, might start by taking those gauges off my bonnet lol

RX4_guy

You have 12 months as its not in effect on the gold coast or brissy just yet

Philthy

You, my friend, have hit the nail square on the head.

Good to see someone honest on here too. Instead of winging and blaming everyone else and resorting to petty name calling and scare mongering.

azzure

both of my bros are policemen and thats bullsh*t !!! wat boosteds15 said is excact word for word, but seriously...... maybe a bit toooooooooooooooooooo far..

honestly, how the hell would a a few tachos on the bonnet kill someone? .....i can understand about engine mods yeah but seroiusly too far

FC3STURBO

hit a person and there head will apparently EXPLODE on impact

83ASY

Ive seen it happen man

51NGL

Exactly!




Another good point.

In effect, initially, it will reduce the clowns on the road...but all these 'hoons' are going to do is jump into daddys $3k VR commy and hackup BWCP all night! The government isnt stopping the rukus....just mildy slow it down....gearing it up for yet another cycle!

cars, lives and cops come and go........ Hoons are here for EVER. (no i dont condone it...just pointing out you wont exterminate it)

niall

Anyone want to go halves for a tow truck?

51CMR

I'LL JUST LUBE UP AND BEND OVER NOW SHALL I

Philthy

So because wont exterminate it does that mean you ignore the problem. You will also never exterminate a lot of other things but the laws are ther to control them.

Ehhhhhh individual Cars, lives and cops may come and go yes, as will individual Hoons but they will always be there as groups.

K1NGY

so basically if all your mods have a legit mod plate you should be all sweet?