New Impound Laws (1/7/7) - Now in effect - Information Inside :)  

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4pac
Post #106

QUOTE(Innocent_Commuter @ Jul 4 2007, 05:36 PM) [snapback]1281213714[/snapback]

btw, you wont be able to keep the money from when they sell the car. It goes back to the goverment.

eek.gif thats farked if its true

blacky05
Post #107

It feels like every day we have less freedom. I hate the current government. Everyone who gets done should go to court and keep appealing and complaining and campaigning until the government has no option but to get rid of these laws. The only problem is that the police are only going to target imports, so the general public wont be affected and wont care.

testing_one
Post #108

QUOTE(vh-holden @ Jul 4 2007, 05:28 PM) [snapback]1281213664[/snapback]

i am politically correct.




LOL wow ! thats gonna get you soooo far!

83ASY
Post #109

Im with all fairness for the drink driving/unlicensed etc, but the modification laws from my point of view are just way to harsh. Feel free to disagree, but what is the actual go as people have already mentioned in terms of laws superseading other laws, if your pod filter for example complies with the laws which have been in place for a long time (being secured in the engine bay, or having it sectioned off from other parts of the engine bay) will these new laws just over-ride them and say, no that's not suitable ull need to have that mod-plated?

26love
Post #110

good thing it aint in brisbane yet.

MD0086
Post #111

I bet all the engineers are licking their lips

BADEZ
Post #112

QUOTE(26love @ Jul 4 2007, 06:10 PM) [snapback]1281213817[/snapback]

good thing it aint in brisbane yet.

and this said in first thread
The new laws DO NOT affect the Gold Coast for another 12 months. BUT if you drive through the other areas e.g. Ipswich or Noosa you are subject to the laws.

so say u go to a thing up the coast or out at willobank to watch u can get done to.

i think this is crap the amount of cops that will be out and a bout handing out bull crap defects just to get the cars off the road.

hmm i just found out how im gonna be a millionare by next yr. become a tow truck driver lol

200sx_s13
Post #113

Can everyone say communism? lol

jabes
Post #114

QUOTE(TwinCam16 @ Jul 4 2007, 01:59 PM) [snapback]1281212992[/snapback]

I agree with most you have just said there Chris, only this part i dont...
Some do, most get off on having the power and using it to be a @#$!.

I can see this, as alot of other police powers now, is going to be abused.

Show respect and 99% of Police will respect you back.

Ive been pulled over doing the stupidest things, in the stupidest of places, driving some stupid cars...but never felt that ive been on the receiving end of "abuse of power".

blacky05
Post #115

Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. It will get worse and worse and the death toll will only go down because less people are driving.

83ASY
Post #116

^^Hehe Tech9 yo! facesjump.gif

45SET
Post #117

hmm... interesting.

Sounds interesting.... anyone know of somewhere to get a mod plate?

Rookie ROX
Post #118

QUOTE(2jz 180sx @ Jul 4 2007, 02:01 PM) [snapback]1281212997[/snapback]

there was no warning bout this law coming in was there


Yes, there was. I had heard about it several months ago and a topic was posted with reference, however it didn't have the same hype. Being a trial removes that necessity.

QUOTE(bustage @ Jul 4 2007, 02:38 PM) [snapback]1281213106[/snapback]

come on guys, i think its time to riot. show these pricks what we're made of


Yes off you go. You and the several thousand car enthusiasts riot against the rest of the 4 million people in Queensland - I'm sure the Government's going to be scared rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Supachargd @ Jul 4 2007, 03:04 PM) [snapback]1281213173[/snapback]

FUCKOFF noone is going to take my car permenately!!! wtf and they say communism is shit, lol back 60 years ago not even in russia someone didnt have this much freedom, there is now way somebody can just take your property off you, and if people will allow it there will be a new standard set. Most people think iam just one i cant do shit, but together people can , this vehicle impounding shit was started by beatie, who is doing other marvelous work, like people not having water to drink. There is no way anybody will be taking my car of me period. you will see if this law goes ahead howmany people out there will be against the police and i wouldnt be surprised if the amount of cops being shot will double. The best protest is to gather everybody up on a busy friday from about 6am and modified or non modified cars just startt cruisin the streets of the city, every single car, will cause so much chaos that there will be hours of traffic, then get beatie to remove these gay laws. And they say australia is full of freedom.


lol.

QUOTE(xxxx69 @ Jul 4 2007, 04:08 PM) [snapback]1281213380[/snapback]

Im deffinately getting US citizenship as soon as i can...im sick of this australian dictatorship bullshit and the general agressiveness and attacking by authorities towards younger people...dont they realise in not too long we will be supporting thier arses?!


Yeh because the United States is so much better. Can I recommend going and living in California? It's really lax when it comes to modified cars thumbsup.gif

QUOTE(PSIcotik_Soarer @ Jul 4 2007, 04:09 PM) [snapback]1281213385[/snapback]

and under the new laws it will be illegal

9(1) Drive motor vehicle with silencing device modified so as to reduce
effectiveness
9(2) Modify vehicle’s silencing device so as to reduce effectiveness
I guess that same will apply for many mods which are currently legal and will no longer be.

The law can get fucked. If its currently legal and we have conformed to specs then we should not get punished with these new laws.


These are NOT NEW LAWS.

Those clauses have existed for years, the only difference is that the car could be impounded for breaching the Vehicle Standards Acts. You've always been able to be defected for modifying your exhaust. However the people who ever get those tickets tended to be the ones who were complete smartass's to the officer and were asking for it.

QUOTE(Innocent_Commuter @ Jul 4 2007, 05:36 PM) [snapback]1281213714[/snapback]

btw, you wont be able to keep the money from when they sell the car. It goes back to the goverment.


You thought they'd take your car and give you the money for it? Hahaha. This isn't taking your house to build a freeway. You broke the law no less than four times for the same thing, as a result they're going to do something to really get the message through.

QUOTE(200sx_s13 @ Jul 4 2007, 06:39 PM) [snapback]1281213952[/snapback]

Can everyone say communism? lol


Communism.

Doesn't exist here.

Maybe you should research exactly what happens in post-communist countries such as Russia, and learn the small differences between their laws and ours. I think you may appreciate the difference when you realise that having your whinge here results in the Government rolling their eyes, doing it in Russia results in the FSB assassinating you. smile.gif

I see nothing, apart from the topic starter's INTERPRETATION of what they BELIEVE is coming out according to a MEDIA report. I can see nothing that says any modification that isn't a factory item or blue plated is illegal. I see it saying if it doesn't meet the Vehicle Standards, dictated by ADRs and NCOPs, it will be illegal. Just as it was. If you put a pod filter on and it's secured, there's no problem. If you put new wheels in and they do not change the rolling diameter by +15mm/-26mm and have the correct load rating, there's no problem.

Besides - Am I the only one to know very similar laws already apply in Victoria?

*puts on shorts and t-shirt*

ROCK ON
R~R

boozt
Post #119

And to think I was worried about getting a safety cert for my '7 before this... Crazy stuff

200sx_s13
Post #120

Maybe u shud try living over in vietnam when it was communist rookie, i have, have u?
well we are a free country yet now we are being told wat 2 drive, wat we cant, god freedom of speech no longer exists,

895OUP
Post #121

QUOTE(Supachargd @ Jul 4 2007, 03:04 PM) [snapback]1281213173[/snapback]

The best protest is to gather everybody up on a busy friday from about 6am and modified or non modified cars just startt cruisin the streets of the city, every single car, will cause so much chaos that there will be hours of traffic, then get beatie to remove these gay laws. And they say australia is full of freedom.


yer i like i like

bowrofl.gif

Rookie ROX
Post #122

QUOTE(200sx_s13 @ Jul 4 2007, 07:07 PM) [snapback]1281214044[/snapback]

Maybe u shud try living over in vietnam when it was communist rookie, i have, have u?
well we are a free country yet now we are being told wat 2 drive, wat we cant, god freedom of speech no longer exists,


We are NOT FUCKING AMERICA!

There's no such thing as freedom of speech. It's an IMPLIED right.

So seeing as you're so learned about communism and what it's like, it confuses me how you can start claiming this country (ignoring the fact it's State legislation) is communist. Funnily enough though, last time I checked Vietnam still IS classified as a communist country rolleyes.gif

But hey, what would I know, I didn't live in Vietnam dunno.gif

ROCK ON
R~R

200sx_s13
Post #123

i never said it is, but hey the rate the government is going it soon will be, seeing as the laws are constantly changing and getting stricter against anyone with a say on anything, first smoking, then cars, now u cant say jack shit without being called racist,
and what does america have 2 do with being a free country? australia also is, well meant 2 be however these days i am highly doubting we will be for much longer, its turning into a dictatorship over here whether we like it or not, our rights and freedoms are being taken away, yet you seem 2 support this

HSV
Post #124

QUOTE(PSIcotik_Soarer @ Jul 4 2007, 04:09 PM) [snapback]1281213385[/snapback]

Ok what about people that have spend thousand + dollars on and exhaust and it meets current laws (90db or lower ow whatever it is)

and under the new laws it will be illegal

9(1) Drive motor vehicle with silencing device modified so as to reduce
effectiveness
9(2) Modify vehicle’s silencing device so as to reduce effectiveness
I guess that same will apply for many mods which are currently legal and will no longer be.

The law can get fucked. If its currently legal and we have conformed to specs then we should not get punished with these new laws.


Those laws have been around for years, they are rarely enforced as there was too much of a slide scale as to what constitutes an infringement

QUOTE(Innocent_Commuter @ Jul 4 2007, 04:38 PM) [snapback]1281213482[/snapback]

Im just pissed off they targeted ipswich. I know it has a high bogan content, but IF these laws come in and are finalised, then its going to be like running a guantlet to go to events like powercruise/winternats/DA rounds and infact any sprint of track days that draw large number of enthusiast. Champion way only has 1 entry and 1 EXIT.


Actually there IS more than one smile.gif

Rookie ROX
Post #125

Yes I do support them. Your rights and freedoms are being taken away BECAUSE YOU BROKE THE LAW.

You know if you're ever imprisoned, your right to engage in ANY sexual activity is revoked? Your right to property is revoked. Your right to go anywhere is revoked. Your right to communicate with anyone is substantially limited. The list goes on.

There's no real difference here. You broke the law doing the same thing four times, you are therefore being punished with more than some points and a fine.

And what does America has to do with anything? Freedom of Speech is a Constitutional right in America. Australia does not have a Bill of Rights (ever wondered about those referendums?). Freedom of Speech is not a legal right in Australia.

ROCK ON
R~R

200sx_s13
Post #126

well when u have been defected driving a stock standard vehicle with a factory cold are intake then how are these laws fair? also under the laws anything apart from the factory fitted exhaust size is illegal, as there already is a law that says that u cannot change ur exhaust diameter from factory standards however it is rarely enforced, now with these rules getting stricter id be willing 2 bet nearly everyone on this site has there exhaust modified, even urself
btw my ride is legal and all engineered, however with the changes i am now doubting quiet a few things still will be legal although prior 2 it they were

jono2626
Post #127

QUOTE(bustage @ Jul 4 2007, 02:38 PM) [snapback]1281213106[/snapback]

come on guys, i think its time to riot. show these pricks what we're made of

i think ure dam right. this is getting too much!!!

wat'r
Post #128

A copy of my post on CB:

**********NOBODY PANIC********

Just spoke to Traffic Branch.

The onlything that has changed is the penality i.e. you go to court.

and

if busted for an offence under the same 'umberella' i.e illegal mods, in a 3 year period.... you get 48 hours with the car you were driving when busted (yours or not)

e.g.

You can have an after market steering wheel as long as is is of the legal size and not made of wood (for example)

you can have an after market exhaust....as long as it complys with noise limits etc, etc, etc.

Basically..... no more fines and loss of points.... every offence goes to court where the penality is decided by the magistrate.

So....... do the right thing and you'll be fine. Don't let the Government and do-gooders in society win. Keep it legal and stay on the road.

So....

If it was a legal modification that does not require a Mod Plate..... it still doesn't (eg steering wheel)
If it was a legal modification that requires a mod plate..... it still does ( eg engine conversion )

There are no new laws.... just the way in which penalities are dished out have changed. i.e. off to court for a lot of things now.

Remember this is not in Brizzy or the Gold Coast.(yet)

FC3STURBO
Post #129

QUOTE(wat'r @ Jul 4 2007, 07:45 PM) [snapback]1281214153[/snapback]

A copy of my post on CB:

**********NOBODY PANIC********

Just spoke to Traffic Branch.

The onlything that has changed is the penality i.e. you go to court.

and

if busted for an offence under the same 'umberella' i.e illegal mods, in a 3 year period.... you get 48 hours with the car you were driving when busted (yours or not)

e.g.

You can have an after market steering wheel as long as is is of the legal size and not made of wood (for example)

you can have an after market exhaust....as long as it complys with noise limits etc, etc, etc.

Basically..... no more fines and loss of points.... every offence goes to court where the penality is decided by the magistrate.

So....... do the right thing and you'll be fine. Don't let the Government and do-gooders in society win. Keep it legal and stay on the road.

So....

If it was a legal modification that does not require a Mod Plate..... it still doesn't (eg steering wheel)
If it was a legal modification that requires a mod plate..... it still does ( eg engine conversion )

There are no new laws.... just the way in which penalities are dished out have changed. i.e. off to court for a lot of things now.

Remember this is not in Brizzy or the Gold Coast.(yet)


so you talked to the traffic branch ya self? if soo, thats really good to hear. biggrin.gif , these 'new rules' seem like a more reasonable approach compared to what has been stated smile.gif

angels666
Post #130

QUOTE(wat'r @ Jul 4 2007, 07:45 PM) [snapback]1281214153[/snapback]
Basically..... no more fines and loss of points.... every offence goes to court where the penality is decided by the magistrate.

I guess they figured they tried the first option for however many years and it wasn't working so it was time to try something new dunno.gif

Mr-RX
Post #131

Well that changes everything then.

If its ditching the fines for a court appearence i dont care, As everything on my car is mod plated and legal biggrin.gif

FC3STURBO
Post #132

QUOTE(Mr-RX @ Jul 4 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]1281214184[/snapback]

Well that changes everything then.

If its ditching the fines for a court appearence i dont care, As everything on my car is mod plated and legal biggrin.gif

same biggrin.gif, i was shitting my pants lol, much happier now biggrin.gif

s2krazy
Post #133

I wish I could see the backorder list of court dates in 2 yrs time if this is heavily enforced, which I think it will be at first to create presence and get everyone familiar with the slight changes....

Should be interesting to say the least.....

RX4_guy
Post #134

QUOTE(Mr-RX @ Jul 4 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]1281214184[/snapback]

Well that changes everything then.

If its ditching the fines for a court appearence i dont care, As everything on my car is mod plated and legal biggrin.gif


Thats it biggrin.gif

This will go both ways, as the judge will rip the police officer a new one if they waste the courts time. No more handing out BS defects biggrin.gif

Mr-RX
Post #135

QUOTE(FC3STURBO @ Jul 4 2007, 07:57 PM) [snapback]1281214191[/snapback]

same biggrin.gif, i was shitting my pants lol, much happier now biggrin.gif

I think everybody was biggrin.gif

Now we have the facts stright, Its actually not a bad idea.

All tho, I would assume giving somebody a court apperance date is less paper work then a defect tongue.gif

But not to bad none the less, If its sometime small, Or if the traffic police ACCIDENTLY get it wrong, And your mod is legal, Atleast you get a fair go at court to explain and tell them its legal.

I hope they also do this for unroadworthy cars tho.


All in all, Im actually happy about the way they will now handle defects. Like RX4_guy above me said, no more bs defects smile.gif

G-uni7
Post #136

QUOTE(bustage @ Jul 4 2007, 02:38 PM) [snapback]1281213106[/snapback]

come on guys, i think its time to riot. show these pricks what we're made of

x2 fucken assholes are killen the car seen

RX4_guy
Post #137

QUOTE(G-uni7 @ Jul 4 2007, 08:12 PM) [snapback]1281214252[/snapback]

x2 fucken assholes are killen the car seen


The "car sceen" as I knew it died a good 5 years if not more ago.

Regardless it will always go on in a different persona. But in reality this whole issue has been blow out of proportion.

vh-holden
Post #138

QUOTE(G-uni7 @ Jul 4 2007, 07:42 PM) [snapback]1281214252[/snapback]

x2 fucken assholes are killen the car seen


no, it's the idiots that draw attention to the car scene that are killing it.

angels666
Post #139

QUOTE(RX4_guy @ Jul 4 2007, 08:16 PM) [snapback]1281214263[/snapback]
The "car sceen" as I knew it died a good 5 years if not more ago.

I concur thumbsup.gif

brujito
Post #140

THATS IT THE REXIE IS GOING SOON... TIME FOR A EUROPEAN.... I guess this is one way to really stop modifiyng..... it is discrimination to a degree!!!!! im not kidding either...


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