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evo201
Post #316
tough call |
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24th July 2006 - 08:31 PM
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sick_sr20de
Post #318
QUOTE(evo201 @ Jul 25 2006, 02:31 PM) [snapback]1280090987[/snapback] tough call i have a 200kw evo 3 lancer and i am currently buying a 255kw vx hsv clubsport r8 both are very different cars but both are great cars the point no one has touched on is how much weight the power has to carry 1708kg clubsport r8 with 255kw and 475nm 1190kg evo 3 lancer with 202kw 300nm i said something bout power to weight being a very large factor in races 
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Stuit
Post #319
QUOTE(sandman_350 @ Jul 25 2006, 01:55 PM) [snapback]1280090873[/snapback] 100kW difference is a substantial power advantage stuit even if you are to ignorant to apreciate that fact where did i not appreciate it? of course its a lot more power, but going by the two cars that 57ING mentioned, the extra 100kw isnt enough to make it faster 
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BADEZ
Post #320
well lets see what i can pull apart here. |
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RX4_guy
Post #321
QUOTE(sandman_350 @ Jul 25 2006, 01:55 PM) [snapback]1280090873[/snapback] as wattsy and i are trying to both say is on topic ... and that is the aspirated engine in this posted question has 1/3 more power than the turbo unit so you dont have to be a rocket scientist to work out who in this example will come out on top 100kW difference is a substantial power advantage stuit even if you are to ignorant to apreciate that factJust to make a point ... Lets see what a 100kw advantage means on the strip, With a heavier car  http://chilly.theddrzone.com/Me%20V%2013BVW/ And no the ls1 didnt win Taken from here http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=58572 Note that run was only beaten by one car length not by 7 to 8 as he use to   FFS why are you all still arguing you can't compare a v8 to a turbo 4cyl. 2 diff motors in 2 totally differant platforms
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RX4_guy
Post #322
QUOTE(BADEZ @ Jul 26 2006, 01:34 AM) [snapback]1280093525[/snapback] and then u say that they will always make more power than a smaller capacity engine. so where are they at dyno days and dyno domps at auto salon. hmm lets see most of last yr highest powers were set by w3hat SKYLINES with straight 6s hmm this year highest power also set by a 6cylinder SKYLINE Guess you havent been to many summernats horsepower heros  Overall power big V8 twin turbo FWT, that coming from a rota head
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tuffZK
Post #324
QUOTE HMM most of the record holders ive seen for most power have been from 6cylinder cars with turbos OH DAM NO V8s hmm lets see most of last yr highest powers were set by w3hat SKYLINES with straight 6s hmm this year highest power also set by a 6cylinder SKYLINE oh dam i think i see a pattern, hmm no v8s all i can say is u v8 masterbater get off ur ass and prove that u are superior not ont he highway were u can sit on 250 wher we sit on 200. but show it by taking out a power output challenge at a well known place. hmm lets say BAS oh wait they dont let carby motors in now do they. so i guess it will be the new fuel injected v8s taking the stage and more than likely loosing. hey ill be happy if i see a v8 kick the 900 to over 1000 hp at a salon, id be surprised, but id happily apologise if a v8 took out overall power and set a new record at BAS. last time i checked top fuel dragsters were about 700 cube v8s and 5500hp, that kinda blows your belief of 6 cyl turbos making 900hp being the ducks nuts of engines away doesn't it. |
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BADEZ
Post #325
not really becuase id like to see them at a car show on a dyno, not a sunner nets thing but one where there are normal everyday drivers i know 900 or so hp itsnt much dam if it was id be worried i know dragcars make a crap load of power i was more saying that all of these road driver v8 drivers talk about all this v8 being more powerful. all i was saying is lets see it at a show. |
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Burnout
Post #328
QUOTE(BADEZ @ Jul 26 2006, 08:22 AM) [snapback]1280093630[/snapback] not really becuase id like to see them at a car show on a dyno, not a sunner nets thing but one where there are normal everyday drivers i know 900 or so hp itsnt much dam if it was id be worried i know dragcars make a crap load of power i was more saying that all of these road driver v8 drivers talk about all this v8 being more powerful. all i was saying is lets see it at a show. i aint been to summernat heros but im talking about shows that are easyh to get to not a willobank competition Eddie Tassone's old TTV8 VH Commie, made over 1200HP. (Street legal I believe) Now he has a TTV8 VZ Ute making over 1800rwhp. So your claims, that there aren't V8s, that can't make over 900HP and still be street driven, is obviously bullshit, as there are plenty of V8s, making those numbers. Hell the 1000HP N/A record is held by a V8 Capri. I think you need to do a bit more research, before making such ridiculous claims.  Anyway after reading this thread the last few days, it's apparent that this argument will never be settled. Just remember guys, no matter how fast you think you are, there will always be someone faster. Regardless if it's a V8, Turbo 4, Turbo 6 etc.
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Rookie ROX
Post #329
Ahahahahahaha - I've been sitting back and reading this for a while, but there's one post that forces me to reply. |
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WattsyLX
Post #330
QUOTE(BADEZ @ Jul 26 2006, 01:34 AM) [snapback]1280093525[/snapback] well lets see what i can pull apart here. everyone is stating that in the first post that it said 300kw na engine and 200kw turbo engine but they escape the fact it says WRC engine mean world rally championship engine, anyone who knows the requirements to be in WRC know that the engine has to be a turbocharged 2L motor. therefore only being able to really choose from a very select group of cars and then leaving the 300kw up to the fairies all of these people who say that the V8 will always dominate have been proven wrong over the years, look at the supercars when they first came out dam the straight 6 turbo GTR's by nissan kicks all the v8 supercars. and then u say that they will always make more power than a smaller capacity engine. so where are they at dyno days and dyno domps at auto salon. HMM most of the record holders ive seen for most power have been from 6cylinder cars with turbos OH DAM NO V8s hmm lets see most of last yr highest powers were set by w3hat SKYLINES with straight 6s hmm this year highest power also set by a 6cylinder SKYLINE oh dam i think i see a pattern, hmm no v8s all i can say is u v8 masterbater get off ur ass and prove that u are superior not ont he highway were u can sit on 250 wher we sit on 200. but show it by taking out a power output challenge at a well known place. hmm lets say BAS oh wait they dont let carby motors in now do they. so i guess it will be the new fuel injected v8s taking the stage and more than likely loosing. hey ill be happy if i see a v8 kick the 900 to over 1000 hp at a salon, id be surprised, but id happily apologise if a v8 took out overall power and set a new record at BAS. I wasnt going to post in this thread again, but after reading this post i had to! Are you the biggest idiot in the school playground or what?! You seem to think the car event world revolves around Autosalon. Autosalon is shit - i wouldnt even go there if they let me in for free. Theres more rice in the Austosalon arena than there is in all the rice paddies in Vietnam put together. Autosalon is one dyno event out of about five thousand. Instead of only reading autosalon books at little lunch you should broaden your scope a little and see what is happening in the real world. Even the most staunch import car supporter would agree that horsepower heroes/ dyno comps are always going to be won by the V8..... its only natural that the bigger engine will win. Geezus, at the Summernats you dont even bother trying to win the outright title unless you have 1200plus horsepower at the wheels..... and thats is made in the thin, mountain air at Canberra! And geez, lets try and strap some of those big cube monsters we see in the drag racing world to the dyno. 7500plus horsepower! |
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sandman_350
Post #332
QUOTE(WattsyLX @ Jul 26 2006, 01:08 PM) [snapback]1280094527[/snapback] Geezus, at the Summernats you dont even bother trying to win the outright title unless you have 1200plus horsepower at the wheels..... and thats is made in the thin, mountain air at Canberra! thin mountain air is a brilliant observation not to mention the huge heat soak from the tin shed that the Dyno cell is held in , all this is held at the hottest possible time off year and on pump fuel ...... just imagine the figures if it was held at autosaloon at sealevel and during winter on whatever fuel you like ????? i wont even start to mention the way some dynos are set up at events to compensate for various factors in order to achieve the desired numbers
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Rookie ROX
Post #333
QUOTE(WattsyLX @ Jul 26 2006, 01:08 PM) [snapback]1280094527[/snapback] Are you the biggest idiot in the school playground or what?! Instead of only reading autosalon books at little lunch you should broaden your scope a little Ahahahahaahaha   Good call! And for the record, here are the links to the Twin Turbo XR8 ute. https://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....=139624&hl= https://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....=147209&hl= ROCK ON R~R |
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Burnout
Post #335
QUOTE(WattsyLX @ Jul 26 2006, 01:08 PM) [snapback]1280094527[/snapback] You seem to think the car event world revolves around Autosalon. Autosalon is shit - i wouldnt even go there if they let me in for free. Theres more rice in the Austosalon arena than there is in all the rice paddies in Vietnam put together. Yeah I stopped going, because of the wanker atmosphere, that surrounds it. Oh and because, I think it's too repetitive.  Meguiars MotoEX shits all over Autosalon.
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lsb05
Post #336
I have a 3 week old black VZ Clubby LS2 and having fun using it as a daily driver.Never driven an Evo but hear and read that they are best as a w/ender.To have both would be fun for every day of the week. |
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crazy muzza
Post #337
Well it depends what im using it for... |
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RX4_guy
Post #338
QUOTE(Burnout @ Jul 26 2006, 10:43 AM) [snapback]1280094060[/snapback] Just remember guys, no matter how fast you think you are, there will always be someone faster. Regardless if it's a V8, Turbo 4, Turbo 6 etc. Most intelegent part of this thread  Just he forgot to meantion a Rotary
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crazy muzza
Post #339
QUOTE(RX4_guy @ Jul 30 2006, 05:43 AM) [snapback]1280105970[/snapback] Most intelegent part of this thread Just he forgot to meantion a Rotary And you must of forgotten we are talking about fast cars 
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SWIFTY
Post #341
QUOTE(BADEZ @ Jul 26 2006, 01:34 AM) [snapback]1280093525[/snapback] well lets see what i can pull apart here. everyone is stating that in the first post that it said 300kw na engine and 200kw turbo engine but they escape the fact it says WRC engine mean world rally championship engine, anyone who knows the requirements to be in WRC know that the engine has to be a turbocharged 2L motor. therefore only being able to really choose from a very select group of cars and then leaving the 300kw up to the fairies all of these people who say that the V8 will always dominate have been proven wrong over the years, look at the supercars when they first came out dam the straight 6 turbo GTR's by nissan kicks all the v8 supercars. and then u say that they will always make more power than a smaller capacity engine. so where are they at dyno days and dyno domps at auto salon. HMM most of the record holders ive seen for most power have been from 6cylinder cars with turbos OH DAM NO V8s hmm lets see most of last yr highest powers were set by w3hat SKYLINES with straight 6s hmm this year highest power also set by a 6cylinder SKYLINE oh dam i think i see a pattern, hmm no v8s all i can say is u v8 masterbater get off ur ass and prove that u are superior not ont he highway were u can sit on 250 wher we sit on 200. but show it by taking out a power output challenge at a well known place. hmm lets say BAS oh wait they dont let carby motors in now do they. so i guess it will be the new fuel injected v8s taking the stage and more than likely loosing. hey ill be happy if i see a v8 kick the 900 to over 1000 hp at a salon, id be surprised, but id happily apologise if a v8 took out overall power and set a new record at BAS. WOW!! that's the biggest brain fart...... EVER! |
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Joyrid3r
Post #344
wattsy your a champ. |
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eighty-eight
Post #347
haha ^ QUOTE What would you prefer, 300kw non turbo car or a 200kw turbo-charged car? |
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