Qld P Plater In Nsw - anyone know which rules i have to follow? Thanks  

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Post #1 post 3rd September 2009 - 01:45 AM
Im a queensland p plater heading down to nsw for the WRC, do i have to follow the nsw red p plate 90km/h speed limit?
Tried finding the information online, but nothing clearly states i have to or not, Any information would be apreciated.
& sorry if theres already a thread like this, i couldnt find it.
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Prancer
Post #2

From what I've been told.

While in "said" state, you have to obey their rules.

So yes I'm assuming you'll have to do the 90km/h speed limit.

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QUOTE (Prancer @ Sep 3 2009, 07:53 PM) *
From what I've been told.

While in "said" state, you have to obey their rules.

So yes I'm assuming you'll have to do the 90km/h speed limit.


Ok, thanks mate

beggsy89
Post #4

na im on the new p plate laws and i got told you dont have to follow the laws, for example p platers that are on the old law do not have to show p plates in nsw even though all p platers in nsw have to display the plates.

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QUOTE (beggsy89 @ Sep 3 2009, 08:45 PM) *
na im on the new p plate laws and i got told you dont have to follow the laws, for example p platers that are on the old law do not have to show p plates in nsw even though all p platers in nsw have to display the plates.

hmm, yeah i've heard that too, but not too definite either way. anyone know where a link is to queensland transport or a reliable source which clealy states it?
thanks

PyrotiX
Post #6

You must follow and abide by local laws.

nicandjen
Post #7

i wouldn't risk it. justfollow the nsw laws. some nsw coppers love to catch a queenslander for ANY reason

clutch-monkey
Post #8

QUOTE (nicandjen @ Sep 3 2009, 09:33 PM) *
i wouldn't risk it. justfollow the nsw laws. some nsw coppers love to catch a queenslander for ANY reason

that reason is state of origin
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nicandjen
Post #9

QUOTE (clutch-monkey @ Sep 3 2009, 09:37 PM) *
that reason is state of origin
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good one ya squint.gif NSW are just letting you win a couple of years in a row. we will win next year thumbsup.gif

SMITH1992
Post #10

How gay is it that you have to display P plates on the outside!

4ord4u
Post #11

its not gay.

it just shows the general public that your still not experianced.

TwinCam16
Post #12

QUOTE (PyrotiX @ Sep 3 2009, 09:29 PM) *
You must follow and abide by local laws.


Actually i beg to differ Ryan.

You stick to the conditions stated on your licence of the state that issued it to you.

Think about it.

If you go to South Australia on a QLD licence, by your theory, you would be allowed to drive what ever you like, despite the authority giving you permision to drive stating that you cant.

Also, anyone on an existing QLD provisional licence, would have to wear P plates if they went into nsw and stick to the 90k rule that they have down there.

PyrotiX
Post #13

QUOTE (TwinCam16 @ Sep 4 2009, 09:04 AM) *
Actually i beg to differ Ryan.

You stick to the conditions stated on your licence of the state that issued it to you.

Think about it.

If you go to South Australia on a QLD licence, by your theory, you would be allowed to drive what ever you like, despite the authority giving you permision to drive stating that you cant.

Also, anyone on an existing QLD provisional licence, would have to wear P plates if they went into nsw and stick to the 90k rule that they have down there.


I really have to stop posting while .. anyway, by local I mean local license etc.

TwinCam16
Post #14

So for the sake of the OP...

When you are in NSW, you do the speed limit posted for that road.

Do not worry about 90 km/h restrictions placed on NSW p licences.

BoostWagon
Post #15

I would say you have to based purely when I went to NSW when i was on my P's (and before QLD had to display P plates) by law i was suppose to display P plates... So i would assume you would have to stick to the speed limit to

Thats what a cop said to me at an RBT just over the border.

TwinCam16
Post #16

QUOTE (BoostWagon @ Sep 4 2009, 09:29 AM) *
I would say you have to based purely when I went to NSW when i was on my P's (and before QLD had to display P plates) by law i was suppose to display P plates... So i would assume you would have to stick to the speed limit to

Thats what a cop said to me at an RBT just over the border.


Correct!

Rookie ROX
Post #17

QUOTE (Prancer @ Sep 3 2009, 07:53 PM) *
From what I've been told.

While in "said" state, you have to obey their rules.

So yes I'm assuming you'll have to do the 90km/h speed limit.


Negative

QUOTE (PyrotiX @ Sep 3 2009, 09:29 PM) *
You must follow and abide by local laws.


Negative

QUOTE (TwinCam16 @ Sep 4 2009, 09:31 AM) *
Correct!


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Negative.

As per Shane initially, yes, you must abide to local road rules (not that it makes much of a difference anymore because it's based off a International standard), but you must follow the restrictions placed on your licence by the issuing State.

So no you do not have to abide by the NSW Provisional speed limits, nor technically do you have to display your plates on the outside. HOWEVER, NSWPol officers tend to get confused as to the rules and try and fine you anyway, so for the sake of convenience, display them on the outside.

Vice versa applies for a NSW P Plater travelling to QLD. Even though they're in QLD, they must still abide by their speed restrictions, still have the plates on the outside etc. If they went to SA, they still cannot drive a HPV and so forth.

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mjl91
Post #18

you do have to abide by their rules p plates on outside of the car and do what there p plates have to do. qld p plater and learners have been pinged for doing the speed limit and not displaying plates on out side of car. read road ahead magazine there has been many circumstances where qld drivers have been done for not following nsw road rules.

rookie rox learn the road rules for each state if you want to say that we dont have to abide by other states rules.

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Post #19

hahaha, thanks for the comments, still bitconfused, but i quess i'll just zip tie the p plates on the outside just to be safe and stick to around 90.
thanks

Buddo_007
Post #20

put your p plates on the outside but stick to the speed limit if a cop pulls you over let him now that in QLD you dont have speed restrictions in place then he will say "oh ok i didn't know that but be careful doing it coz other coppers might find it as an excuse to get out of a speeding fine so drive very carefully"

when i was on my P's without p plates in QLD i went for a drive down to NSW and thats what he said to me

he also ripped of the Queensland state of origin side and said our licenses look cheap like the footy team hahaha

Rookie ROX
Post #21

QUOTE (mjl91 @ Sep 4 2009, 11:27 AM) *
you do have to abide by their rules p plates on outside of the car and do what there p plates have to do. qld p plater and learners have been pinged for doing the speed limit and not displaying plates on out side of car. read road ahead magazine there has been many circumstances where qld drivers have been done for not following nsw road rules.

rookie rox learn the road rules for each state if you want to say that we dont have to abide by other states rules.


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Learn who to argue with before you start.

So, you're saying that if you only abide by the rules of the State or Territory you're in, if you as a P1 licence holder travel to the NT, you can drive whatever car you want, don't have to display any plates and can drive with as many passengers as you please at any time?

No?

Gee, I wonder why. Oh wait, I KNOW why. It's because you abide to the conditions of your licence. Not doing more than 100km/h on your P1's is NOT a road rule. It's a condition of your NSW P1 licence. That condition does not apply to any other licence holder in any other State or Territory who holds a similar type of licence.

Want to continue?

ROCK ON
R~R

clutch-monkey
Post #22

QUOTE (mjl91 @ Sep 4 2009, 11:27 AM) *
you do have to abide by their rules p plates on outside of the car and do what there p plates have to do. qld p plater and learners have been pinged for doing the speed limit and not displaying plates on out side of car. read road ahead magazine there has been many circumstances where qld drivers have been done for not following nsw road rules.

rookie rox learn the road rules for each state if you want to say that we dont have to abide by other states rules.

awesome
so if i was a P plater i can drive to SA and drive turbo cars
hektik

mjl91
Post #23

i spoke to rta and qld transport bout this as i was confused. hmmm so maybe i have actual facts numnuts. and i spoke to a couple of different managers from each transport department. as i drove to sydney and didnt want to get done for anything. in fact you could go to s.a and drive a fully sick wrx bro...... but if your brought it back and got done here you would get done by our police for driving it

40PSI
Post #24

QUOTE (mjl91 @ Sep 5 2009, 02:29 AM) *
i spoke to rta and qld transport bout this as i was confused. hmmm so maybe i have actual facts numnuts. and i spoke to a couple of different managers from each transport department. as i drove to sydney and didnt want to get done for anything. in fact you could go to s.a and drive a fully sick wrx bro...... but if your brought it back and got done here you would get done by our police for driving it

Let me fill you in newbie RR is god of this stuff just bow out gracefully and he might not make you look like a dick

clutch-monkey
Post #25

i call bullshit
i got pulled up on my Provisional license for speeding and defect check in NSW, not one commented on having to put P plates up

TwinCam16
Post #26

QUOTE (clutch-monkey @ Sep 5 2009, 08:37 AM) *
i call bullshit
i got pulled up on my Provisional license for speeding and defect check in NSW, not one commented on having to put P plates up


We have already confirmed this.

clutch-monkey
Post #27

true, mjl91 or whatever seems to think otherwise

TwinCam16
Post #28

QUOTE (clutch-monkey @ Sep 5 2009, 08:45 AM) *
true, mjl91 or whatever seems to think otherwise


Kids now days...

mjl91
Post #29

does he work for qld transport? or the rta? hmmm how bout the police? as they are the ones that make the law not him. i never said he was wrong. i was just saying what i had been told by both transport departments that fact wasnt obviouse to you,that i was saying what i was told by them. oh yeah and i am not a kid, if your calling me a kid you must be an old fart. i believe im an adult and so does the law

Manic 180
Post #30

Police don't make any laws, they enforce it how the interpret it from legislation.
Ive called transport up a few times in the past with the same query and had many different answers, the only way to be sure is call transport and get them to fax through the legislation they are using to answer your question and keep it in your glove box to show mr police man if he pulls you over.
Ps. 18 is still a youngin

mjl91
Post #31

and thats what i did i rang them up but didnt get them to fax anything through. and yes a youngin but not a kid.

Manic 180
Post #32

QUOTE (mjl91 @ Sep 6 2009, 10:16 AM) *
and thats what i did i rang them up but didnt get them to fax anything through. and yes a youngin but not a kid.


I'm not having a go, or taking sides as I don't know the answer. All I'm saying is if you call up qt 3 different times you will often get 3 different answers. So with out that fax I wouldn't trust a word they say.

Rookie ROX
Post #33

QUOTE (mjl91 @ Sep 6 2009, 09:39 AM) *
does he work for qld transport? or the rta? hmmm how bout the police? as they are the ones that make the law not him. i never said he was wrong. i was just saying what i had been told by both transport departments that fact wasnt obviouse to you,that i was saying what i was told by them. oh yeah and i am not a kid, if your calling me a kid you must be an old fart. i believe im an adult and so does the law


And I'm saying to you, they were wrong.

The simple fact you think that whatever is told to you by employees of QT or the RTA is 100% truth indicates you're confused to start with. The crap I've heard that has come from them is astounding. They don't exactly employ the world's smartest people.

You are right in saying that it's not a blatantly obvious rule, correct. The problem is, you've been told the wrong information because of it.

No, if you're on a P1 or P2 licence anywhere down the east coast and travel to a State or Territory without vehicle restrictions, you CANNOT go and drive whatever you want, because your licence specifically prohibits you from doing so. But seeing as you're so content on not believing me, how about this little thing that might change your mind

Transport Operations (Road Use Management - Driver Licencing) Regulation 1999

Part 8 - Recognition of other driver licences

Section 35 - Non-Queensland driver licence

(1) A valid non-Queensland driver licence authorises the holder to drive, on a Queensland road, a class of motor vehicle that the holder is authorised to drive under the licence.

(2) The holder of a non-Queensland driver licence must comply with a condition of the licence.

Maximum penalty—20 penalty units.

http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/Search/i...59f05/4/hilite/


If you want to start arguing with the Premier and Cabinet Department, be my guest.

ROCK ON
R~R

Nick2go
Post #34

Na you go the qld rules i was told

Dann_m
Post #35

Nah man, if thats so i woulda been caught too, i recently drove down to sydney from brisbane on the christmas holidays im on my L's so i would have had to follow the 80km/h rules but i didnt i did 110 in the zones etc and nothing happend. being xmas time i passed a few cops aswell.

not sure if this helps but gl.

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