Silver Top, Red Top, Black Top - What's the difference?  

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Post #1 post 16th July 2006 - 07:39 PM
Have read many posts about different Nissan engines, What's the difference between the Silver top, Red top, Black top engine? Apart from the obvious colour difference.
her323
Post #2

This should help a bit.

http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/lofiver...hp/t100572.html

Siggers
Post #3

do u mean rb or sr motors? as the rb20det came out in black red and silver

Glider
Post #4

QUOTE(her323 @ Jul 17 2006, 06:39 PM) [snapback]1280068075[/snapback]



Yep, check that link.

Also note that the red and black tops are turbo RWD motors, and the silver-top sr20's are non-turbo motors available in both FWD and RWD.

her323
Post #5

QUOTE(Glider @ Jul 18 2006, 12:32 PM) [snapback]1280070321[/snapback]

and the silver-top sr20's are non-turbo motors available in both FWD and RWD.



eg. in the SSS??

racsov500
Post #6

QUOTE(Siggers @ Jul 17 2006, 08:44 PM) [snapback]1280068698[/snapback]

do u mean rb or sr motors? as the rb20det came out in black red and silver


no such thing as a blacktop rb20

in turbo form ther was the eccs silvertop, NICS redtop and eccs redtop, with small differences depsnding what car they came out of

hell_bent
Post #7

QUOTE(racsov500 @ Jul 18 2006, 09:11 PM) [snapback]1280072115[/snapback]

no such thing as a blacktop rb20

in turbo form ther was the eccs silvertop, NICS redtop and eccs redtop, with small differences depsnding what car they came out of


If there is no such thing as a black top, then what are these?

https://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....=143898&hl=
https://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....=143420&hl=
https://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....=147928&hl=

Silver top.
http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/datab...14268870849.jpg

Red top.
http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/datab...01247352970.jpg (non turbo)
http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/datab...01247352970.jpg (turbo)
https://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....howtopic=148332 (turbo)

Anyone know the real difference?


Damone
Post #8

QUOTE(hell_bent @ Jul 19 2006, 03:35 PM) [snapback]1280074113[/snapback]

QUOTE(racsov500 @ Jul 18 2006, 09:11 PM) [snapback]1280072115[/snapback]

QUOTE(Siggers @ Jul 17 2006, 08:44 PM) [snapback]1280068698[/snapback]

do u mean rb or sr motors? as the rb20det came out in black red and silver

no such thing as a blacktop rb20

in turbo form ther was the eccs silvertop, NICS redtop and eccs redtop, with small differences depsnding what car they came out of

If there is no such thing as a black top, then what are these?

https://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....=143898&hl=
https://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....=143420&hl=
https://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....=147928&hl=



he said RB20 not sr20. which is what you linked to in the first 3 links.

hell_bent
Post #9

QUOTE(Damone @ Jul 19 2006, 04:21 PM) [snapback]1280074370[/snapback]

no such thing as a blacktop rb20

in turbo form ther was the eccs silvertop, NICS redtop and eccs redtop, with small differences depsnding what car they came out of

If there is no such thing as a black top, then what are these?

https://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....=143898&hl=
https://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....=143420&hl=
https://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....=147928&hl=
he said RB20 not sr20. which is what you linked to in the first 3 links.


All I wish to know is what is the difference?
I am new to these engines and wish to increase my knowledge base so when I look at buying a vehicle I am aware of what I am looking at.

Glider
Post #10

Look here dude:
http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/Nissan-Engines-t775.html



The 'silver top' SR20 engine you show looks like it's had the rocker cover repainted, silver-tops (SR20DE) generally just look like plain metal. They do not come turbocharged, and can be found in RWD S13's and FWD SSS and Ti Pulsars (also NX Coupe's).

The top two 'red top' motors you link to, aside from being the same pic, are 1.8l CA18 motors, available in turbo (CA18DET) and non-turbo (CA18DE) in RWD in pre-1990 s13's and also FWD nissan Exa's

**edit* Brain fart sorry. Wasn't concentrating and had a mislabelled info source on that paragraph. Removed.

RB motors are much longer, being 6cyl.

Any Silvia with an RB series motor in it will have had an engine conversion, as they didn't come out with them as standard.

hell_bent
Post #11

QUOTE(Glider @ Jul 20 2006, 09:52 AM) [snapback]1280076343[/snapback]

Look here dude:
http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/Nissan-Engines-t775.html
The 'silver top' SR20 engine you show looks like it's had the rocker cover repainted, silver-tops (SR20DE) generally just look like plain metal. They do not come turbocharged, and can be found in RWD S13's and FWD SSS and Ti Pulsars (also NX Coupe's).

The top two 'red top' motors you link to, aside from being the same pic, are 1.8l CA18 motors, available in turbo (CA18DET) and non-turbo (CA18DE) in RWD in pre-1990 s13's and also FWD nissan Exa's

RB20's are a similar shape to the CA18's. There are a few differences in appearance but the easiest (aside from reading the engine number on the side of the block, which will contain ca18 or rb20 wink.gif ) is that the oil filler cap for the RB20 is on the drivers side instead of the passenger side as is the case with CA18's.

Any Silvia with an RB series motor in it will have had an engine conversion, as they didn't come out with them as standard.


Gr8. Thanks for the info

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