I Wanna Take The Turbo Off My R33 To Make It P Plate Legal - how do i do it and what parts will i need.  

clutch-monkey

dinner was 10 minutes ago, where were you

truffles

Hate it that I was at work and missed all the fun. I'll have to wait 3-4 days for the next thread like this to pop up

mywhitewolf

would it really be nessisary to swap the electronics if you just pull the turbo out? i mean i'd imagine it would run rich / reduced timing if you got up in the revs, but if your already making sacrafices?

TwinCam16

I can see what you are saying.

The issue is, the injectors on the DET are 370cc and would flood the motor in atmo setup.

Using the 270cc and DE ecu would give the "better" result.

trev084

I would just take the turbo parts off as what twincam16 said at the start, by doing this you have the ability to quickly convert it back when you get off your P's.

One thing though, with the Z32, the engine harness is almost the same (N/A does not have boost solenoid wiring) but when you go N/A to TT you just plug the N/A harness to the turbo motor, fit the TT ecu and run an external boost controller, can the same be done with the R33?

TwinCam16

This is actually the same as the RB too Trev. The boost solenoid is the only difference.

Was just force of habit to say loom in my original reply.

trev084

Ok, seems pretty straight forward then.

TwinCam16

Yup.

You could pick up an RB25DE for a couple of hundred bucks. Even if it's just a long motor missing manifolds etc.

Use your DET inlet manifold, grab some ebay extractors, ecu and injectors (SR20DE injectors are the same, there is enough pranged N14 pulsars) couple of mates, engine hoist, carton of piss and you're cooking with gas.

andrew12a

hey man all you gotta do is leave the turbo on there and straight swaps it for my p-plate legal r31 skyline
pm me

TwinCam16

Smooth

sly32

HAHAHA..... so you obviously know your shit do u? I have done a heap of engine conversions... its piss easy... i have pretty much converted everything on my car to something from a different car,....and done alot of engine conversions and drivetrain conversions on mates cars. so i think i probably have more of a understanding than what you do...

but then again... did you want me to write a step by step instruction on how to do it? cmon

TwinCam16

Chop chop...

Rancher

"will probably take less time aswell just pulling out the whole engine and wiring harness and chucking the non turbo harness and engine in.... its alot less bolts to undo..."

Really now? You've done heaps, and totally know what you're doing? Then, with your smarts, you should know that both NA and turbo looms are just about identical. Also, explain to me how pulling a motor and box out, is less bolts to be undone then the bolts and banjos holding the turbo on?

Please dont write up instructions on how to do it. I dont want people using them, and taking 4yrs to do it, and get it wrong anyway.

sly32

im talking about time here... bolts which are easier to get to... normally take less time and screwing around to get off... i have had full engine and gearbox out in 45mins.... and back in in 60mins... soo really i dont think you can take all the turbo gear off and block up the oil feeds etc... in less time... if so not by much...

Gagginforit

I got a 1/2 decent suggestion! Why doesnt op just drive nana's festiva or some other P PLATE FUCKING LEGAL ride until he has opens. then register/drive the turbo skyline? Doe's every fucking p plater have to bend / break / want an exception from the rules?

The rules are here face it, if p platers could stop driving into things, people cars etc then maybe they may relax or hand out more exemptions or be a little more lienient! But untill p platers start realizing that they just arn't doing anyone a favour by trying to sneak in this or drive that or whatever its only going to get harder!

Do your fucking time and stop being tards, its for your own good FFS, and mine. I dont need some nugget crashing through my fence trying to drive something that they just arnt capable of. ( Which very nearly happened yesterday )
I WILL BASH YOU WITH A FUCKING ANGRY CAT IF I HAVE TO!

Dislamer:- this does not go for all p platers, yes i realise some of you are good drivers, just do your time , stay alive and fuck off away from my fence. Also i do not have a cat, i have a rust old shovel and a wheelbarrow that i can beat you with instead!

But seriously, rules are there to help you guys, its not the end of the world, and plus if you do something stupid and get caught and they suspend your licence, all the goobers will be off their p's and you wont. And they will bone your women!

Joyrid3r

so, in conclusion you'll beat up a p-plater with a wheel barrow? that I gotta see!!

JayJay

Okay so you are speaking from personal experience right. You've done it in that time.

Has the person every pulled an engine out? Realistically how long do you think it'd take someone that has never done it before to pull engine and gearbox out of an R33?

blv

gagginforit's respond ran through my mind when i first read this thread. execpt the cat bit, and im now upset i didnt think of that because i thought it was quite amusing.

But either way, it can be done, but why make it so hard for yourself OP? It would have been easier to buy an NA, and whilst your still learning to drive (and even people on their opens still are, gaining experience is still learning), build up a DET and do an engine swap once your on your opens. Theres fuck all differences in the DE and DET shells anyway. DIfferent trim, boost guage in dash (lets face it, their shit anyway and no doubt not go high enough once you put a boost controller on it anyway) and a badge!

But i hate cars, and wheelbarrows that look like cats.

Gagginforit

I had some twit in a 33 nearly hit my god damn fence sunday. He got it out of shape. managable, but he shit himself slammed on the pics and skidded within 1m of my fence, my kids play on the other side. Im telling you, if he hit that fence i would of flogged the fucker with whatever i had near me, a cat, a wheelbarrow, shovel, forklift, LG 5kg frontloader on spin dry! I don't care!

He looked remarkably like a p plate driver to me! He also looked like he required a new pair of underpants also as i pointed my pitchfork at him ( Was doing the garden, i dont carry a pitch fork constantly, i have to eat dinner at some stage)


Exactly my reasoning behind p platers sticking to what they can handle, personaly, i would like to see the cylinders dropped to 4 for
p platers IF THEY ARE CAUGHT DRIVING IN EXCESSIVE SPEEDS OR HOONING OR CRASHING INTO THINGS!

I would also like to see offenders getting their rights to carry passangers removed, and also to stop them from mistaking themselves for schumaker a limiter placed on the car, and if they still continue to think they are just a delicious looking C.unt , un removable spinners should be placed on the vehicle for a period of time!

Touge Torana

if you don't have an engine hoist
just use a tree
just not a gumtree

sriver killer

member number 222!!!



if you can pull an engine and gearbox out of a 33 in 45 mins. then a turbo should take you 10 mins to get off.
45 mins alone is already consumed by draining fluids and removing ancillaries.



Someone who has never done it before. Say a whole day at home with someone who knows what they are doing
in a workshop scenario. 3-4 hours

trev084

WTF does my old post have to do with this?

adnan r33

i suggest,leave the turbo in there..dont drive like i total(im a P plater with a turbo car doing 180kmph in a 60 zone) and you wont have any worries,and if you do get pulled over make sure you have an asnwer ready when the cops ask you is this a turbo car or what are these pipes going to e.g "no sir that isnt piping for a turbo its simply a cold air intake i asked qld transport and they said its legal aslong as its held in place" (this one only works if you have a smic and not a fmic)
also dont have any stupid guages in the car to suggest its a turbo...
finally make sure you de-badge the car and simply say its a nissan skyline r33 gt and not a gtr or gts-t
hope that helps in some way :s

adnan r33

id laugh if the r33 driver was infact a 30yr old with his open license..
poor P platers

adnan r33

haha the last 6 words made me laugh..thats should a good reason to keep to the rules..fuck not being able to driveafter 11 or being suspended from driving and your miss would be in another car with your mates..abit of drinky drinky and your relationship is done and burried lol
haha

Geoff

If you were mechanically minded and had a decent shed to do so, Twincam is bang on the money. FInd a cheap running DE, chuck it in and strip th DET and build a monster - doing it yourself, buying bits and pieces here and there, doing a bit when you can etc...not it any rush, could quite easily take as ong as your P Plate period.

Why are you fucks too stupid to think logically.

wbtonner

I've had my engine out from running and on a stand with the head, sump and all accessories off in less than 20 minutes, by myself.

Is a 202 so not anything to write home about. Just faster than that bloke with 45 minutes



5 hoses, 6 wires, 6 bolts. All good pull it out.

trev084

6 wires?

What did you fit that has 5

autech_s15

I'm on my P's at the moment. I have two s13's. One is in my shell stripped to pieces with an SR20DET sitting on a pallet and the other is a 100% p plate legal s13. Complete with a 5 stud brake upgrade and coilovers (which are going in my new car)

l2pplate

I'd do what twincam said If I could go back. Buy an R33 gtst, take the turbo engine out and drop in a DE. Also swap over the DET ecu for the DE (or if you got the coin, go a full aftermarket ECU ready for the turbo motor)

Throw the DET onto an engine stand and then strip her down, build it back up. You can really do alot to an engine in 3 years.

I love the fuckwits on here who just ramble on about shit. HUR DURRRR DRIVE A FIESTA UNTILL YOUR ON YOUR OPEN HERPA DUR. It's BECAUSE of you faggots that we have P plate restrictions.

It's all the cocksuckers who got their P's back in the late 90's and early 2000's that have ruined it for us, its not US that have ruined it for us.

Rancher

I wanna take your stripped S13 for a strap. Wanna swap for a strap? you take mine, I take yours.

Also. Just read the last two parts of what you said. Thats not really fair. Regardless of most of us with unrestricted licences back then, most still drove like you P platers now do. Disregard for the road rules and such. It wasn't us that ruined it your the current generation. It was the gumbyment trying to control everyone, and curb the "ever so growing death toll of young people"

Regardless of us driving turbo and V8's, people then and now still act like tools on the road. Speeding, burnouts, etc. Except, back then. We got to the speed faster.

Gagginforit

You got something against festivas?
My old lady had a fest that could light em up ok, big 1.5, sheep skin seat covers, steering wheel cover, you name it. It got AALLLLL the ladies!Brand new in 2002!

Anyway, if what your getting upset about is what i said, i do agree that it is the minority that ruins it for YOUNG DRIVERS today! Generaly the younger car enthusiest knows more about cars than i did when i was their age! but what im saying is not directed at anyone imparticular ( Well oldmate who nearly took down my fence maybe ) but in general. The fact that i'm in my mrs rav 4 with her and my kids and some turkey p plater in a laser wants to race me? Or the p plater in the n/a 33 who accidently grand plaza for queensland raceway, or the p plater who drives into a cafe, or a billboard on the bruce highway, or the one that crashes and kills his 2 mates, or the ....you get the picture.

These are the people that display the P PLATER image. Which get televised, and shown to the general public so the image is broadcast that P Platers cant drive and need to all be punished for the minorities actions!

Personaly, in a perfect world, i would like to see the p plate scheme scrapped and another system, non disriminant of age. This system should be competency based, so my mrs for instance, even though she is 20 something, 25 i think, should be wearing [P] plates because she is a crap driver! Or the 60 yr old asian driver that doesn't know left from right, how to merge , park , indicate or keep in his lane needs a [P] plate.

The 17 yr old kid, who has been driving everyday since he got his learners, is a much more confident driver than the 25 yr old blonde or the 60 yr old mr myaggi, does not have to display his [P] plates, as he passed the test/course with flying colours.

I believe that there is a lot more drivers out there that should be on there [P]'s and a lot more that should be taken off trhe road!

autech_s15

What I said was a bit of an exaggeration, but how does it feel to put put in a big group and hacked on? That's what you all seem to do as well.

I do my fair share of stupid shit. Skids, linking corners in the wet. Do I do that shit when there is people around? Nope. Time and a place. Unfortunately people don't understand that.

Rancher - the engine isn't in it at the moment and it wont be stripped once it's all built

clutch-monkey

soft
tbh if i was on my P's again right now, MX5 or any straight six E30 would be the direction i'd go.

dj_cecil_1

first of all if u really wanted to do it and i can understand where he is coming from as im on my p's and know how it feels. i had a look into this and found it take bit of money to do it and would prob run shit but if u really wanted to it first they have to take the turbo off then cover the hole in the manifold then u need to get it tuned so its not running so rich. think there is a few more mods u have to do but the last main one is to get it engineered.

what i think u should do is buy a shit box for grand and drive that around till u get your opens then swap to the skyline. other people on here should really grow up. he is asking a honest question and all u wanna do is criticize him. grow up seriously

Rancher

Well, get to it. Or no driving mine!