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stockerz
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Post #1 post 15th August 2004 - 09:44 PM
Hey Guys,
I have and old 1982 KA Laser which was given to me as a present, and since i cant sell it, i wanna do it up for my P's. Its got the standard 1500cc engine and i have abot 500 bucks to spend on it so i was wondering about what i could do to it to get out some extra power on the cheap.
Any Help would be very much appreciated

This post has been edited by stockerz: Aug 15 2004, 09:48 PM
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Pie
Post #2

pod filter $40
cannon $80
stereo $400
***EDIT
-honestly i dunno what you can do to the engine - its designed for economy...perhaps you could go a cat back exhaust or even extractors if you can fit a couple hundred bucks more and get it done cheaply or buy second hand ones

R34GTRLUVER
Post #3

i agree with pie, do u like the paint jod??if not you could give a paint job yourself, not hard, me and a mate did his car all you need is paint and alot of plastic(or newspaper) and masking tape, lol.

lo beema
Post #4

QUOTE (Pie @ Aug 15 2004, 09:48 PM)
pod filter $40
cannon $80
stereo $400

hahahaha I agree with Pie on this one or u could ditch the stereo and spend money on getting the cam ground and putting on a 2 inch system from engine pipe 2 cannon (extractors cos a little 2 much, would blow the budget). Ud have a little more power but no sounds apart from the tape deck. biggrin.gif

stockerz
Post #5

The problem is, ive already done up the inside.. i.e sports steering wheel, shift knob, mp3 stereo system, speakers , pedal pads, seat covers, mats and all that crap. But the car doesnt have enough power for my liking.

Exactly how much power would a new exhaust system create?
the red krawler
Post #6

Someone started this topic just to tempt me, didnt they? Its a topic, custom made for me me me!

*ahem*

500 bucks should get you extractors, exhaust and a second hand weber carb to suit the standard manifold. This should give you a good 20% power upgrade on standard due to the extremely restrictive nature of the standard exhaust manifold and the lack of low-down torque due to the stock carby design.

After that, you should look at head work, a cam grind and maybe a stroker kit (no kidding, they goto 2.2L iirc!)

Your more expensive option is to grab yourself an E5T (carby) from the KB "White Lightning" turbo lasers. Its basically an E5 with a turbo carby setup. This will probably give you a fair whack more power than the extractors+exhaust+carby, even as a stock setup, but they are getting pretty rare and I can pretty much guarantee you wont get the E5T for 500 bucks. Easy enough to swap over though, literally rip out the old and put in the new. Dont even need more fuel or anything. Bit of a waste though when you can get ...

A jap spec E5T smile.gif Fairly rare, they come from 1987 GTX Familias. EFI and a fair whack more power than the carby E5T. Thats what I'm running in my car (http://krawler.boostcruising.com/) and I got 78kw at the wheels (~100kw at the engine I guess? Maybe a bit less) before I fixed all the intercooler piping (which was made from rubber hose bent in half... doh!). You can get a motor + box + ecu from adelaidejap (http://www.adelaidejap.com.au) for 900 bucks. Another place to try is Laser Land at Lombard(?) St, Archerfield. They dont keep them on hand anymore I dont think, but when I was last there they had 2 of them. The E5T gearbox is slightly different to a standard KA box and is a KA bellhousing but with KC TX3 (B6T) inners. This means custom CV shafts (a huge 130 bucks a pop for hybrid TX5/TX3 ones which are tuff as nails), but otherwise it bolts up fine. It will cost you more for a sparkie to wire up the ECU if you cant do it yourself, but since an E5T computer is about as advanced as a small asian kid with an abacus, its not too hard.

The best bit about E5Ts (both carby and EFI) is that they are still an E5 block. Which means no crossmember / engine mounts / anything custom needed. With a jap spec E5T you can even use a standard KA gearbox. In fact, if you get the manifolds (and ECU, for EFI), you can run the whole thing off a standard E5 block (1500cc).

The more expensive options are the B6T (1.6L DOHC Turbo) or the BPT (1.8L DOHC Turbo) or even the BPD (1.8L DOHC Turbo with forged internals from the Familias). All of these require lots of engine bay modifications, custom everything, etc etc. B6T is slightly easier than BPT, but still a far cry from E5T.

Anyway, for more help, look at www.fordlaser.com
the red krawler
Post #7

QUOTE (Pie @ Aug 15 2004, 09:48 PM)
-honestly i dunno what you can do to the engine - its designed for economy...perhaps you could go a cat back exhaust or even extractors if you can fit a couple hundred bucks more and get it done cheaply or buy second hand ones

Dont talk anymore facesjump.gif
Cat back? On a carby car? Are you mental? </waynes world>

Designed for economy? No way, these engines are powerhouses! Go tell FUL11 (E15T, almost identical to E5T) his engine is for economy.
27EEZ
Post #8

lol i have a E15T in my et and with the microtech eats fuel like theirs no tomorrow!

deva
Post #9

what do u mean cat back on a carby car.....? are you mental?

i dont get what you mean by this...

boozt
Post #10

mods. hmm.. remove the air filter, drill some holes in the exhaust, cut the springs, buy some pursuit rims and youll be set tongue.gif

Pie
Post #11

mate i didnt know it was carbied. sorry i thought she was fuel injected. yeh dont get a pod either if its carbied hehe
- and deva im guessing he said it because it runs on lead replacement and leaded cars dont run cats and if they did they would get fucked in like 30 seconds

stockerz
Post #12

Thanks for all the Input Guys, Ill check out the prices for all this stuff and ill see what i can do

lil nos boy
Post #13

port & polish
exhaust
carbi kit with larger jets and make the secondry's open quicker
performane air filter
and a good service that allways helps.

eighty-eight
Post #14

you could put a full exhaust on that car with a pod and the power differance would be close to none. there is no way for 500 bucks that car is going to go faster. why dont you look at handling upgrades? get some mags or lowered? or some good subs?

Grimwolge
Post #15

QUOTE (lil nos boy @ Aug 15 2004, 10:35 PM)
carbi kit with larger jets and make the secondry's open quicker

Hows about a dyno & jetting???
rather then just getting big jets put in?

Make the secondaries open faster???

Last time I checked there is only one secondary in a 2 barrel carb

back on topic...

Mods for a Carby Engine

* Cam(s) - get something with a decent profile - http://www.tighecams.com.au
* Head Shave - Gets the compression up a bit
* Head Port & Maybe Polish - Get some airflow
* Higher Compression Pistons - Self Explanitory
* Lightened Flywheel - Possibly Aftermarket
* Get rid of any clutch fans and replace with a thermofan setup
* Take off your airconditioning
* Extractors (4-1 should be fine on a small 8valve engine)
* Exhaust from the extractors back - 2" tops
* Bigger Carby, something like a pair of Weber DCOE40 side drafts if you have a spare $500-1000. look around. When you are done with all your mods get the carb jetted and tuned properly.
irokin
Post #16

you may be interested in some rims I have for sale

email me irokin at rollaclub.com for some piccys

WiZzFiZz
Post #17

QUOTE (the red krawler @ Aug 15 2004, 10:00 PM)
Someone started this topic just to tempt me, didnt they? Its a topic, custom made for me me me!

*ahem*

500 bucks should get you extractors, exhaust and a second hand weber carb to suit the standard manifold. This should give you a good 20% power upgrade on standard due to the extremely restrictive nature of the standard exhaust manifold and the lack of low-down torque due to the stock carby design.

After that, you should look at head work, a cam grind and maybe a stroker kit (no kidding, they goto 2.2L iirc!)

Your more expensive option is to grab yourself an E5T (carby) from the KB "White Lightning" turbo lasers. Its basically an E5 with a turbo carby setup. This will probably give you a fair whack more power than the extractors+exhaust+carby, even as a stock setup, but they are getting pretty rare and I can pretty much guarantee you wont get the E5T for 500 bucks. Easy enough to swap over though, literally rip out the old and put in the new. Dont even need more fuel or anything. Bit of a waste though when you can get ...

A jap spec E5T smile.gif Fairly rare, they come from 1987 GTX Familias. EFI and a fair whack more power than the carby E5T. Thats what I'm running in my car (http://krawler.boostcruising.com/) and I got 78kw at the wheels (~100kw at the engine I guess? Maybe a bit less) before I fixed all the intercooler piping (which was made from rubber hose bent in half... doh!). You can get a motor + box + ecu from adelaidejap (http://www.adelaidejap.com.au) for 900 bucks. Another place to try is Laser Land at Lombard(?) St, Archerfield. They dont keep them on hand anymore I dont think, but when I was last there they had 2 of them. The E5T gearbox is slightly different to a standard KA box and is a KA bellhousing but with KC TX3 (B6T) inners. This means custom CV shafts (a huge 130 bucks a pop for hybrid TX5/TX3 ones which are tuff as nails), but otherwise it bolts up fine. It will cost you more for a sparkie to wire up the ECU if you cant do it yourself, but since an E5T computer is about as advanced as a small asian kid with an abacus, its not too hard.

The best bit about E5Ts (both carby and EFI) is that they are still an E5 block. Which means no crossmember / engine mounts / anything custom needed. With a jap spec E5T you can even use a standard KA gearbox. In fact, if you get the manifolds (and ECU, for EFI), you can run the whole thing off a standard E5 block (1500cc).

The more expensive options are the B6T (1.6L DOHC Turbo) or the BPT (1.8L DOHC Turbo) or even the BPD (1.8L DOHC Turbo with forged internals from the Familias). All of these require lots of engine bay modifications, custom everything, etc etc. B6T is slightly easier than BPT, but still a far cry from E5T.

Anyway, for more help, look at www.fordlaser.com

Krwaler has it down there smile.gif the lil lasers are a nice starting point for good things to come.. dont worry about the exterior just worry about the motor keep it well maintained with the lil mods krawlers says n you will have yourself a zippy daily driver

cheers

Pennywise
Post #18

save your money, not worth spending anything on it,

izzie
Post #19

well theres a hot tip from pennywise. Alternatively and I stand to be corrected. You could opt for a factory twin carby setup from the meteors. They developed more power then the stock single carb model however I am not sure if they will come close to a single weber. This is about all I can add to this however i must say I have been guilty of flogging one of these 1.5 litre mazda engines.

I took a 81 Mazda 32 sedan, origianl 1 owner car with logs books - somewhat battle scared to morgan park raceway and flogged the ring off it for god knows how many lasp about 2 months ago. Managed top speed of 115 down main straight in second gear and done most of the track in 2nd at top of 95klms. No will tell me that a standard car doesn't have some balls at least. The good news was that it didnt blow smoke and still goes and looks like going another round this weekend. Definately a head shaving would help this engine and a bigger exhaust will add some to it

the red krawler
Post #20

QUOTE (izzie @ Aug 16 2004, 09:10 PM)
You could opt for a factory twin carby setup from the meteors. They developed more power then the stock single carb model however I am not sure if they will come close to a single weber.

Not at all.
The twin carb setup gives a whopping 1kw more iirc, and very minimul torque difference.

Weber is what you need.

Exhaust makes a huge difference on the carby lasers, you should see the stock exhaust manifold. It has the pollution control "snorkels" (for want of a better word) going into the exhaust ports themselves, which means a good 25% of the exhaust is blocked off, if not more.
the red krawler
Post #21

QUOTE (Pie @ Aug 15 2004, 10:25 PM)
mate i didnt know it was carbied. sorry i thought she was fuel injected. yeh dont get a pod either if its carbied hehe
- and deva im guessing he said it because it runs on lead replacement and leaded cars dont run cats and if they did they would get fucked in like 30 seconds

If its carby, it doesnt have a cat. You dont have a cat on LRP cars, ok?

Also, why cant you run a pod on a carby car? Its just an air filter in a mushroom shape. There is nothing magical about it that it needs EFI to work.
deva
Post #22

i was just confused becuase my car is cabruettor fed and it has a cat..... i was all like wacko.gif

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