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well sounds like either u have hooked up your fronts to the wrong wires OR you haven't faded to the front on the headdeck?
if u need any help with determining which wire should go where just ask

13th June 2004 - 05:35 PM  Reply  Quote

is there a plug with 4 wires going into it thats just sitting there? that could be where your front speakers connect up to, also you could just rewire you fronts

13th June 2004 - 05:51 PM  Reply  Quote

no i know which wires go where and i know what each of them do, the front speakers are hooked up into the headunit but there still isnt any sound.

13th June 2004 - 06:38 PM  Reply  Quote

check that u haven't somhow faded all the sound to the back, or u can run the front paraelle with the back by running them from the same amp.

13th June 2004 - 06:40 PM  Reply  Quote

Unfortunately i cant find my copy of the manual that is in english, and im currently not very familiar with the controls of the unit, ive looked through all the menus on it and i cant find what im looking for. By the way the unit is a Pioneer DEH-P5650MP

13th June 2004 - 07:02 PM  Reply  Quote

I'd do what filo said,

use the high pass filter on the amp (assuming it has one) as only the sub need play bass. Then wire the front speakers in parallel with the back ones, making sure you get the left/right channels correct, so when you play with 'balance' it works correctly.

The speakers will sound much better running off the amp than the head unit.. more specifically they won't distort (as much) when played loud, as they won't be playing any bass frequencies.

13th June 2004 - 07:20 PM  Reply  Quote

The back speakers are hooked up to one amp and the sub is hooked up to another, these are both running fine but its the tweeters and front speekers that arent working and i think it might be because i havnt wired these two properly together into the one output from the headunit. See ive never had to do this before so id say ive done it wrong. Does anyone have suggestions on how to do this properly.

13th June 2004 - 07:26 PM  Reply  Quote

For now id prefer to have them running the way i do cause it sounds fine, eventually when i get more time ill try and do it that way, but i hate pulling stuff apart like that so ill just run it this way.

13th June 2004 - 07:28 PM  Reply  Quote

So you have tweeters AND front speakers running on the headunit
hmmm yeh that would complicate things.
im not sure how you wire that up.

13th June 2004 - 11:49 PM  Reply  Quote

Just check on the headset, should be under audio button where you play with bass and treble and got to part that says fad or fader and put to the front. Always check connections afterwards of each corner speaker on using balance and fader. thats all i can think it would be.

13th June 2004 - 11:50 PM  Reply  Quote

Yeh i know where it should be but for some reason i havnt been able to find bass or treble on it, i found the manual and the only thing it had in there was adjusting the equaliser curves.

14th June 2004 - 12:24 AM  Reply  Quote

Wat r u doing running the fronts off hu and the back 6*9's off an amp WITH a sub...????? For starters run your FRONT splits off the amp... the 6*9's will drag the sound stage back creating horrible imaging... with the sub u wont need the 6*9 to produce any bass at all... hook the back off ya hu and fade them right out...!!!

I only run splits and a single 12" sub in my SQ system... no rear speakers at all! If u set the speakers up this way u will find that the difference is amazing

14th June 2004 - 12:24 AM  Reply  Quote

agree with spec83, same thing in my vl, 2x12's in the boot with ~350wrms each, splits getting 130wrms each, tweets, and nothing else wired up

14th June 2004 - 09:20 PM  Reply  Quote

so why r the tweeders in the back or did i miss something?

if u have tweeders and woofers (splits) they should have come with a crossover, connect the + from the x-over to the amps + and the - from the xover 2 the - on the amp. the speaker outs should be marked woofer and tweeder. do what spec83 said with the 6x9(or take em out all 2 gether)

hey presto
nathan

14th June 2004 - 09:28 PM  Reply  Quote

The tweeters are in the front, the 6x9's are in the back

14th June 2004 - 10:07 PM  Reply  Quote

Might sound obvious but make sure you are not running the left channel front speakers off the left- and right- with the right channel front speakers off the left+ and right+.

So yeh, just check you have selected the correct wires. Newer head units will unclude wiring codes on the actual head unit (as in a sticker or something). Older head units without this, jump on the net and look up wiring codes for the head unit. Generally companies will use the same coloured wires though different head units in their range so even if you can only find wiring codes for a head unit similart to yours that should be fine.

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One good way of diagnosing a problem is to check components with connections that you KNOW work. Try connecting your front speaker wires to the + and - you are running to your amp because obviously you have these wires correctly done as the speakers are working. If the front speakers work, then you know the wires are all good and it's just how you are connecting them to the head unit. If they don't work, then you know that the problem is not where they are being plugged into the head unit, but the wires or speakers themselves.

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If you're still screwed, I'm sure someone on here who lives near you could give you a hand

15th June 2004 - 05:50 PM  Reply  Quote

If you're using the factory wiring to get to the front speakers, tell us what kind of car you have and I can get the correct colour coding of the wires for you. Since you're running splits in the front, are you using a proper crossover, just putting in a capacitor on the tweeters or none of the above - that could be a problem too!

15th June 2004 - 06:37 PM  Reply  Quote

Ive got a honda civic, but the owner before me put in most of the stereo equipment, such as the tweeters and fronts , but i know what colours represent what im just having problems identifying what the problem is. But on the weekend im just gonna pull the car apart and find out where all the wires lead to determine if maybe a few of the wires are coming from the wrong place.

15th June 2004 - 10:51 PM  Reply  Quote

If you have accidently plugged either your rears or your sub into the fronts rca preout in the head unit, the rears and the sub will still work but it will disengage the wires to the front speakers from the main plug.

15th June 2004 - 11:04 PM  Reply  Quote

I followed what the installation diagram said and put the rear rca into the rear preout and the sub into the sub preout, well im pretty shore i did. And when i faded to what the headunit says was the front the sub faded away, so i just had rear sound and when i faded to the rear i just had the sub going maybe that means the sub and the rear wires are swithced around, i dunno. I also just went and opened up my door panels to have a look see as to what the old owner had done with these front speekers and found a two channel crossover (thing that splits the output) and it was running up to the tweeters and into the fronts. But when i followed the input cable, i couldnt see anything wrong but i lost it behind the dash and never saw it again, but i have different wires plugged into the hu. But there the correct colour so maybe these are old wires. Im thinking of just going to a car sound place and getting them to fix it up for me. Can anyone recomend someone who can fix this for a low price, on the northside.

17th June 2004 - 05:36 PM  Reply  Quote

dude sounds like the wires your connecting to the head unit for the splits are getting mixed up some where along the line i reconmend buying some new speaker cable and run the wire from the x-over (in the door i think you said) to the head unit that way you know you have the right wires connected to the head unit... and you could also re wire the wire going from the x-over to the woofers and the tweeters... some fatter gauge wire is allways good

26th June 2004 - 09:44 AM  Reply  Quote

Another thought....some Head Unit's when they have the Front and Rear RCA's hooked up, disable the speaker line out.
This will also be a cause for your front's not working if this is the case with your Head Unit.

Other than that I agree with Spec....Re-wire your system with the front's running from the Amp. If your head Unit only has 2 sets of Pre-Outs you won't be able to run 6x9's off the rear speaker outs. I would ditch em anyway's

27th June 2004 - 12:18 AM  Reply  Quote