Odometer Swap With Engine Swap?  

dollars&sense
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Post #1 post 15th January 2013 - 01:56 AM
Hi,

Is it legal to change the odometer along with an engine swap?
For e.g. a vehicle has done 300,000kms and you put in an engine that has done 150,000kms and you want the odometer to go in as well?

I phoned the Modifications Department in QLD and they said that it's fine as long as I state the original odometer reading when selling?
Is this true?

Sort of new to this stuff...

Thanks
TwinCam16
Post #2

You do realise that the odo is not for the motor, it's for the vehicle.
Replacing it because you have changed the motor is stupid. It's more important to know the true age of the suspension / bushes / brakes / shocks etc etc than the wreckers motor you just shoved between the strut towers.

THE STIG
Post #3

You can change odometer but it needs to be logged with the transport dept. or possible jail time if you sell on the car

dollars&sense
Post #4

QUOTE (THE STIG @ Jan 15 2013, 08:03 PM) *
You can change odometer but it needs to be logged with the transport dept. or possible jail time if you sell on the car
could you please explain further what you mean by logged?

thanks

DAL32
Post #5

QUOTE (TwinCam16 @ Jan 15 2013, 07:58 PM) *
You do realise that the odo is not for the motor, it's for the vehicle.
Replacing it because you have changed the motor is stupid. It's more important to know the true age of the suspension / bushes / brakes / shocks etc etc than the wreckers motor you just shoved between the strut towers.

Anyone who buys a car on the km's alone isn't making a smart decision though. I recently bought a car with 200 on rather than one with 125 because I knew there was a bunch of crap replaced which I would then not have to worry about. That and the car with 200 wasn't coming out of an overgrown backyard in Goodna with several other unrego'd cars in the yard lol

QUOTE (dollars&sense @ Jan 15 2013, 08:09 PM) *
could you please explain further what you mean by logged?

thanks

Each time a car is registered or transferred the odo reading is noted on the paperwork. If you quote the km is lower than the last rego, it'll probably raise a red flag dunno.gif

dollars&sense
Post #6

QUOTE (DAL32 @ Jan 15 2013, 11:47 PM) *
Each time a car is registered or transferred the odo reading is noted on the paperwork. If you quote the km is lower than the last rego, it'll probably raise a red flag dunno.gif
Thanks DAL32

mark1414
Post #7

QUOTE (DAL32 @ Jan 15 2013, 11:47 PM) *
Anyone who buys a car on the km's alone isn't making a smart decision though. I recently bought a car with 200 on rather than one with 125 because I knew there was a bunch of crap replaced which I would then not have to worry about. That and the car with 200 wasn't coming out of an overgrown backyard in Goodna with several other unrego'd cars in the yard lol


Each time a car is registered or transferred the odo reading is noted on the paperwork. If you quote the km is lower than the last rego, it'll probably raise a red flag dunno.gif


Thats true but its just stupid when people get rebuilt motors then want to put the odometer back to zero, like yeah suddenly the whole car is just new now!

OP the smartest thing to do is record the km on the odometer when you put the motor in and keep track of the km on the motor. That way when you sell it you can say xxx km on the car (odometer reading) and xxx on the motor. That way you don't have to deal with QT and paying people to reset you odometer but when you sell it you can show you have kept good records (pics, receipts etc ) and the buyer should have no reason not to believe you.

boot_it
Post #8

Ok by law you are NOT allowed to change ot alter the odometer reading unless its broken ,and if its broken the new cluster has to be wound to the same Kms as the old one ,

TwinCam16
Post #9

I honestly don't see the need to replace the odo.
It's not broken so the only thing i see going on here is the intent to mislead someone.

dollars&sense
Post #10

QUOTE (TwinCam16 @ Jan 16 2013, 07:31 AM) *
I honestly don't see the need to replace the odo.
It's not broken so the only thing i see going on here is the intent to mislead someone.
what if you never intend on selling that car though?

TwinCam16
Post #11

But you're missing my point.
Why are you wanting to change it?

clutch-monkey
Post #12

yeha if you're selling it you'd say in the ad "car has 300,000km, engine 150,000" or similar, like everyone else
there is no reason to change odo

aaron.
Post #13

I don't know about you guys, but I'd find it pretty convenient for servicing and maintenance sake to have the odometer on 0 if I had a freshly rebuilt engine.
Especially so if I'd replaced a whole heap of suspension and steering components at the same time.

TwinCam16
Post #14

Is it that hard to write down the odometer when you did the swap?

aaron.
Post #15

It's obviously easier to just write down the reading, but I'm not known to do things the easy way.

BAM!
Post #16

Write the odo down and be done with it. Shit most places who service cars put a little sticker in the corner of the windscreen, why not put one of those in yourself, or do what I do and keep a record book in the glovebox with receipts stapled to pages/handwritten lists of what was done and when, and if you use your vehicle for work it's easy come tax time.

farshedjan
Post #17

Basically i bought a car with an engine swap the body of the car has 320k on it and the guy told me he swapped the engine so it had 60k and he does not hve the paper work for it how do I found out how much kilometres the engine has??

Mcleod
Post #18

If there's no documentation then there's no real way to know.

Ideally the engine swap would be registered with transport department and the number of k's on the engine along with engine number change, etc.

Shuffs
Post #19

QUOTE (farshedjan @ Jan 25 2014, 05:12 PM) *
Basically i bought a car with an engine swap the body of the car has 320k on it and the guy told me he swapped the engine so it had 60k and he does not hve the paper work for it how do I found out how much kilometres the engine has??

Nutshell,if the body has 320,000 kilometers on it,I don't think you would have paid half Canada's national debt for it,so as the general consensus from the thread you've managed to exhume (well done in finding it).is worry more about the age of the vehicle components than the engine,and thank you for coming to Boostcruising (and Australia) for your advice thumbsup.gif

vk134
Post #20

odometer is recorded with any RWC, normally proceeding a sale where is recorded, was always in Vcheck ,as well as engine number changes, but oddly enough, klms were never recorded with engine number changes.

If you alter an odometer to less than the last recorded reading for ANY reason, be prepared for some questions.

Shuffs
Post #21

VK,it would appear this person hails from Canada,and it appears their biggest bugbear over there is emission control,so I would say this is probably the reason for the question

QUOTE
Motor replaced anytime

Requirements





Vehicle cannot legally operate if there are visible emissions for more than 15 seconds in any five-minute period (s. 3(1) and s.6)




For Drive Clean testing, the vehicle model year is the model year as designated by the manufacturer (s. 1(2))




Vehicle must meet or exceed what were the emissions standards for the original motor when all original emission control equipment was functioning (s. 4(2))




All emissions control equipment must be attached and functioning. Equipment refers to what came with the replacement motor or be equivalent to what would have come with that motor. (s. 4(2))
dunno.gif

vk134
Post #22

I thought QLD

"I phoned the Modifications Department in QLD and they said that it's fine as long as I state the original odometer reading when selling?
Is this true?" I would just leave the original ODO and put a note on the engine and in the glovebox

Shuffs
Post #23

QUOTE
'farshedjan' date='Jan 25 2014, 05:12 PM' [/b]post='2088564220']
Basically i bought a car with an engine swap the body of the car has 320k on it and the guy told me he swapped the engine so it had 60k and he does not hve the paper work for it how do I found out how much kilometres the engine has??



QUOTE (vk134 @ Jan 26 2014, 01:30 PM) *
I thought QLD

I can see where the confusion is coming from now,OP (who hasn't been here for 8 months),was from QLD,and the thread has been dead in the water for 12 months,until old mate (the one from Canada) poked it with a stick,with the above post,yesterday,I was responding to him,not that he'll probably ever return. unsure.gif

vk134
Post #24

Oh that guy, I thought who gives a fk, it has 320k's on the car, motor may be fine, but the rest i prob shagged

.Tim.
Post #25

So, given you have no intent to sell the vehicle (for the moment at least), what is the point of all this?

To make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside because you're now reading lower clicks?

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