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Post #1 post 6th September 2004 - 06:31 PM
I am looking at getting a gemini as a bit of a fun car biggrin.gif

I would like to get rid of the 1600 motor and replace it with something different, just wondering what i could replace it with.

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DNIL8R
Post #2

id go fj20 or sr20 something along the lines of that

Turbbo
Post #3

Gemini's are great for engine replacements. Good choise of car firstly. Your options are endless however the most common are V6 supercharged, eg commodore s pac, g200, ca18det, 2.6 turbo from rodeo, 13bt or any other crazy idea you have al you have to do is find a friendly mechanic who can greenslip it.
Have fun

deva
Post #4

turbo the 1600 motor 4 shizzle... do a search and u'll find someone posted something about the conversion with a link to a site that sells the stuff u need.. (sorry i can't remember it) u can get a blow thru turbo carby setup, however there is the option of going the EFI route, and he has all the parts u need 2 do it on that site (excluding ecu),,,...

that's what i think anyways, would work out alot cheaper than most options

TwinCam16
Post #5

CA18DET easy as smile.gif

Mrs_LJ_GSRRVR
Post #6

QUOTE (TwinCam16 @ Sep 6 2004, 06:43 PM)
CA18DET easy as smile.gif

is that an offer tongue.gif

TwinCam16
Post #7

laugh.gif i have one rule in life, no make that two, first is to never work on a gemini, seconds is to make sure mates dont work on geminis wink.gif

NISMO_31
Post #8

Plenty of conversions are possible in a gemi due to the size of the engine bay. Just depends what sort of money you want to spend doing the conversion.

The link for the website mentioned: CLICK HERE

Anything from Bridge port 13B, CA18DET, FJ20DET, SR20DET, RB20DET etc... have been done and are legal to do in QLD.

NISMO_31
Post #9

Also you can drop in the 2.6 out of a rodeo which has a shit load of torque and would be alot of fun to drive with a locked diff biggrin.gif

deva
Post #10

PHAT 4, thanx 4 the link, i've been lookin 4 that 4 ages!!!!!
haha, yeah i still think that's the best way to go, works out by far the best BFYB

the red krawler
Post #11

I've heard its possible to put a 1GGTE in a gemini ... But I dont believe it wink.gif
the red krawler
Post #12

Also, when I was investigating geminis...

4ze1 (2.6l rodeo) engine can go in no wuckers, but forget about turboing it. ... Legally any way
Dont know how V6 commo engines get approved, because the biggest cc NA engine you can put in is a 3.5L from memory.

The 2l rodeo engine fits in very easily and turbos quite nicely. Some gemmis came with 2litres, and the rodeo 2l is still an isuzu engine so if you wanna be trick, dont even get it mod plated. It looks identical.

Anyways.
dj_brad_k
Post #13

speak to freestyler bout the blow through carby turbo kit he help me out with it

on the dyson web-site they did a gem with a 3.8 commo engine in it an dit was d.o.t approved im pretty sure

but yah and thing from 13b,sr,1ggte are all engine possible in gems thumbsup.gif

boozt
Post #14

When i had my Gemi i was always after the 4ZC1 from the Piazza. But never possible to find it, then some dick wrote my Gemi off. Check hotgemini.com, also NISMOgemini is probably the best person to talk to with his FJ20 Gemini. Matthew Spry and Sherringham have both got good examples of very nice conversions. I suppose the 4ZE1 Rodeo engine would be relatively cheap and simple, and maybe best benefit is high torque but not all that much else. So comes down to what your personal preference in engine is. If youd also like to know which workshop/s not to deal with pm me, as i know of some sketchy dealers being uncovered 'specialising' in geminis

pulSSSar
Post #15

The 3.8 V6 is a good option can buy kits for conversion and the Motors are very cheap see them in trading post for like $500 with auto box. either that or a 2.6 rodeo motor. if u start thinks SRs and FJs the motors etc become expensive

benson626
Post #16

My cousin did the RB20DET conversion to his gemini, thinking that it would be a straight fit. went to put the bonnet back on only to find that the new engine stuck out too much. he then had to mod the engine mounts which took more time and money. so be careful with reserching the new engine to make sure that u know all the work that needs to be done for it.

NISMOgemini
Post #17

QUOTE (Turbbo @ Sep 6 2004, 06:34 PM)
Gemini's are great for engine replacements. Good choise of car firstly. Your options are endless however the most common are V6 supercharged, eg commodore s pac, g200, ca18det, 2.6 turbo from rodeo, 13bt or any other crazy idea you have al you have to do is find a friendly mechanic who can greenslip it.
Have fun

dont dribble shit

V6 - illegal
V6 supercharged- illegal
2.6 turbo from rodeo, - illegal
13bt - illegal
rolleyes.gif dry.gif

u can go up to 2.35L turbo or 2.85 n/a

so u can use the 4age(s/c or turboed), sr20de/det, ca18de/det, turbo the stock engines (this is the cheapest), fj20de/det, 13b n/a 12an/a or turbo, or 1gget and rb20det (if you have alot of money to fabricate 1/2 the fire wall to fit them in (ive seen it done))

the list goes on..

NISMOgemini
Post #18

QUOTE (the red krawler @ Sep 6 2004, 07:35 PM)
I've heard its possible to put a 1GGTE in a gemini ... But I dont believe it wink.gif

talk to ron (16OTU) red tg gemini wink.gif hehehehe



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http://www.giant.net.au/users/wight/

HIGHLY recomended fellow to deal with.

NISMOgemini
Post #19

QUOTE (the red krawler @ Sep 6 2004, 07:38 PM)
Also, when I was investigating geminis...

4ze1 (2.6l rodeo) engine can go in no wuckers, but forget about turboing it. ... Legally any way
Dont know how V6 commo engines get approved, because the biggest cc NA engine you can put in is a 3.5L from memory.

The 2l rodeo engine fits in very easily and turbos quite nicely. Some gemmis came with 2litres, and the rodeo 2l is still an isuzu engine so if you wanna be trick, dont even get it mod plated. It looks identical.

Anyways.

nah
gems never came with the 2L ..
there the rodeo 2L that everyone uses.. they are the 2L version of the gemini 1600 and they dont need to be mod plated (as fare as i know (i never plated mine, RTA said i didnt need to))

avalonea
Post #20

sr20!
yet they cost crap loads atm . 2.5-3k for a half decent cut.

dont know how easy it would be tho smile.gif

`josh

NISMOgemini
Post #21

this should clear it up a bit (note a gemini weight is about 950kg)

this information refers only to a "4 cylinder" car.

For a vehicle that is naturally aspirated as standard, and has a total weight of 1100kg or LESS, the formula is...
Vehicle weight in kg's X's 3
e.g TX sedan approx. 950kg's X 3 = 2850cc = 2.8litre max.

For a vehicle that is naturally aspirated as standard, and has a total weight of 1100kg or MORE, the formula is...
Vehicle weight in kg's X's 4.82

For a vehicle that is naturally aspirated as standard, and a forced induction type engine is fitted.
If the total weight is 1100kg or LESS, the formula is...
Vehicle weight in kg's X's 2.5
e.g TX sedan approx. 950kg's X 2.5 = 2375cc = 2.4litre max.

For a vehicle that is naturally aspirated as standard, and a forced induction type engine is fitted.
If the total weight is 1100kg or MORE, the formula is...
Vehicle weight in kg's X's 4


if a higher capacity engine was fitted than these, it would not be worth the head-ache. As an approved engineer would have to scrutineer every milimetre of the vehicle, this would have to be done after every modification to meet the safety and legal standards, and the 'red tape' involved would take approx. 6-12 months. In which time your money would have been better spent elsewhere on a more legal conversion that could be driven on the street alot more quickly. this would be built under the "indevidual build" guidlines.. the engineering costs would be more then the conversion and a waste of time

bendertiger
Post #22

Rebuilt Mitsubishi Astron 2.6, we actually got the last astron motor in existence, been sitting in japan for like 12 years, YES YES YES YES YES! But yeah, dad's put a webber on it, tuned it and the motherfucker puts out 450nm of torque,

bendertiger
Post #23

QUOTE (NISMOgemini @ Sep 7 2004, 09:13 AM)
QUOTE (Turbbo @ Sep 6 2004, 06:34 PM)
Gemini's are great for engine replacements. Good choise of car firstly. Your options are endless however the most common are V6 supercharged, eg commodore s pac, g200, ca18det, 2.6 turbo from rodeo, 13bt or any other crazy idea you have al you have to do is find a friendly mechanic who can greenslip it.
Have fun

dont dribble shit

V6 - illegal
V6 supercharged- illegal
2.6 turbo from rodeo, - illegal
13bt - illegal
rolleyes.gif dry.gif

u can go up to 2.35L turbo or 2.85 n/a

so u can use the 4age(s/c or turboed), sr20de/det, ca18de/det, turbo the stock engines (this is the cheapest), fj20de/det, 13b n/a 12an/a or turbo, or 1gget and rb20det (if you have alot of money to fabricate 1/2 the fire wall to fit them in (ive seen it done))

the list goes on..

Well, you can put anything in there, as long as your willing to pay the engineer fees and upgrade the bits that need upgrading, you can put anything in it

NISMOgemini
Post #24

obviosuly but under the guidlines u cant

Mrs_LJ_GSRRVR
Post #25

I just wont this as a fun thing mainly to drive out at willowspank when i am ready but we wont to expand the gsrs life so thats why i am looking at getting a gemini.

thanks for the ideas peoples now i am just totally confused.

LJ

NISMOgemini
Post #26

if its just a "toy" i would go the 2.6 n/a rodeo..

heaps of tourqe.. N/A insurance which is a bonus.. not overly quick but enuff to have a lot of fun in thumbsup.gif

Mrs_LJ_GSRRVR
Post #27

i still need it street legal! So i can run around town in it as well.

NISMOgemini
Post #28

the 2.6 n/a is street legal......

boozt
Post #29

Id go the 2.6 Rodeo too, even the G200 is an upgrade after youve driven the 1.6. Just go for whatever suits the budget etc

DVS88
Post #30

what about getting a chrysler galant and throwing in the 2.6 litre slighty lighter than a gemini but the 2.6 would make the little thing haul think there about 850kg i think

boozt
Post #31

QUOTE (DVS88 @ Sep 7 2004, 11:51 AM)
what about getting a chrysler galant and throwing in the 2.6 litre slighty lighter than a gemini but the 2.6 would make the little thing haul think there about 850kg i think

Maybe she is trying to avert getting an ugly car i.e Chrysler Galant

DVS88
Post #32

nothing wrong with the galants 2.6 astron into one and will kill a gemini shear torque of these motors and the light wieght body awesome if she wants something different go for a galant wagon, wagons are cool. and the galant below doesnt look to bad

www.bangerstylin.ath.cx/galantC/galant_home.htm

sidewayz
Post #33

how easy is the 2.6n/a rodeo engine conversion NISMOGEMINI? what mods are involved?

cheers!

ms65tarwrx
Post #34

Hello im newbie, kirstin ms65tarwrx... but wanted to know if any one could tell me... if a v6 or 6 cyl is legal in qld in a holden gemini???
16OTU
Post #35

Easy answer, V6 no 6cyl yes depending on size. Look back in this thread as it has been said already.
Ron

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