Hey guys,

Ill be upfront, this project wont start until a few months into next year so dont get too carried away on me (stupid exams then.. GAP YEAR! ).

My Mrs is studying to be a mechanic (doing cert I or II next year), so this project is becoming a reality.

What we are looking at is getting ourself a TA22 (the closer to roadworthy, the better), slapping a Rotary Engine in it with a turbo, and selecting some custom exterior (maybe purple) with a classic like interior (close to what the car interior was originally).

Here comes the request for advice.

Firstly, we are looking to put a rotary in, what are your guys opinions on this, personally we beleive that a v8 etc will not suit this car, and prefer the quiet wizz and power of the rotary.

Secondly, I have heard that a turbo suits a rotary engine better then a supercharger, any main reason for this?

As far as the exterior is concerned, we beleive that bodykits arent nessicarily the best way to go for these, I spose this means we are looking for a snazzy looking TA22, with a lot of grunt.

Cheers from Tassie

Smithy

P.S Sorry if I left out anything, exams soon so I'm not in the best state of mind!

P.P.S This is to be roadworthy, would like to make it into a "show car" at some stage, just have to slog through work and uni to get there!

im probebly going to get bagged out for saying this but theres nothing wrong with rotaries.a mate of mine has had a couple of rx7s a capella and a mazda 1000 ute and they have all benn rotor powered.i remember his series 2 stock 12a rx7 used to give ss commodores a run for there money.anyway ive helped him build a few motors.1 na bridgeport.1 bridgeprt turbo and a 13b periphial port and there so simple to build.theres basicly 3 moving parts and u can build a good motor for under 3g.and it will keep up with v8 commos all day.as long as you warm them up and regular maitnence(more regular than a piston motor) they are sweet.people will tell you shit about them not being reliable and whatnot but they are if you look after them.im a v8 guy but i love rotaries also and thye are great bang for your buck.and they sound pretty good too!!!

Cheers mate.

Im just after something slightly different, ive heard alot of bad things about rotarys but im willing to give it a shot

Love the old celicas, but not a fan of the old wankel dack dack motors. You should do some research into the Quadcam Toyota V8 1UZFE. These things can make some serious power if tweaked properly, and will be so much more reliable!

Dont think a V8 will suit that man, not really up for a big thumper in this car

Big thumper...? its a 4 litre.

13b extend port with a hi flo s5 turbo good clutch and injector and adecent computer and tune and u will be set

Sorry, getting confused =/

Anyone got any info about the turbo vs super thing on a rotary at all?

ive only ever seen a couple of s/c rotors.i dont know why more people go turbo.maybe its easier to get a turbo than a supercharger?i dont no.ive never turboed or charged any of my cars. the 1uz that torrie_man is talking about is a great motor.there a quad cam aluminium motor so there really light and they can make some good power.and they will fit in ur celica with out to many mods.id go a rotor though.

Cheers, tat motor does sound nice after all, so ill keep it in mind

Depends how dicky the rotary gets!

sc a rotor is hard because of the tunning ect and there setup

Don't know if you've thought of this or not but how about a BEAMS 3SGE from a late 90's Altezza? There's a bit of custom work involved but there'll be less than you'd need for a 13BT. The motor'd cost less to start with, too.

there is a bloke selling a 12A conversion, motor and box, mounts etc in the parts for sale section on here.

to suit TA22...

Try to get a RA23 or RA28, longer nose, they look sleeker.

There's an off-the-fucking-wall TA22 getting around with a custom 4 link rear end, tubbed, etc with a 13B in it that is making some SERIOUS power.
Honestly though, 1UZ is the best swap. Not the easiest (but then again neither is a 13B swap), but the car should do 12's with a completely stock engine.
Only thing you'll need to sort out of chassis strengthening.



No, tuning is actually easier than with a turbo setup as the boost level generally rises linearly with the revs. The reason people don't generally do it is rotaries are good for top end power - by limiting their revs with a supercharger you're losing where you make the most power. That being said, it has been done quite a few times before (although most are on drag cars)

i am the one with the setup for sale. i tell ya it is so fun having a 12a turbo in a ta22 celica. is way faster than my old gtir that had quite a few mods on 22 psi of boost on standard boost levels. traction is an issue though no traction till about 110 klms an hour not even using the clutch just foot down and thats on standard boost. only reason im taking it out is because i am getting an ex 8.3 second drag 13b for it

:pray: you are fucked in the head!!

You my friend..

are nuts

hahaha someone buy mine so i can finish it all off

Hi,

keep in mind if you want it street legal you'll obviously need to get mod plates blah blah blah. If your in queensland you CANNOT legally put a 1uz ina ta22 or a turbo 1JZ either! The ta22 comes in under the 1000kg and the rules in qld are 4cc per kg for NA engines and 2.5cc for forced induction. Ra23/ra28 however weighs more than 1000kg so you can go for those above engine conversions. My ra28 has a 1JZ single turbo with 350odd rwhp and it fuggen scary fun. I've heard of a few rotaries in celicas in qld so it can be done. I don't know much about rotaries at all except that they can deliver a butt load of power and you can fit one into any engine bay. Alot of people will probably frown at you cos it's not a toyota engine but it's ur car, do what you like. But unless you have a stupid amount of cash to spend, try and find one that is already done that just needs mods. I think there was a 13b ta22 for sale on here earlier this year at around the 8-10k mark.

Have fun

bEn

1UZ swap actually IS legal as the GT model was 1035kg.

Im in Tassie, anything goes

If you're gonna hack up a TA22 it'd be best to be getting one that needs a ground up rebuild, that way you're not destroying a decent car. It'll cost more in the long run, but these cars are rare enough already without some rotorhead chopping them up for shits and giggles.
Why don't you find an RA40 notchback instead? They're a bigger, heavier car, so it'll be easier to get it engineered with a 13BT. Plus, as they're regarded with somewhat less enthusiasm they're a shit-ton cheaper to start with, too.

Not sure what your gettinat mate, but im just some rotorhead hacking it up for the heck of it, im putting a rotor in it because im interested in rotaries, I also love the look of the TA22.
Putting these together would be a dream for me, its a project car for me and the mrs to develop our knowledge and build it up over a number of years to how exactly what we want.

In short, im not some fucking sped thats gonna stuff the hell out of it, slap china chickenfeed plastic rims on it with a 3" exhaust and call it a beast, its gonna be turned into a Machine

Good, I approve your plans and send them on to the next level of enquiry
Seriously, I think it's a good idea mate. I may be something of a purist but I can see the merits of the 13B over, say, a 3TGTE. More power, more reliable at the higher power levels, doesn't sound as good but who cares about what it sounds like when you're wrestling with a 250kW 10,000rpm engine in a car with such a short wheelbase it puts most kei cars to shame
Looking forward to seeing some progress on this mate, good luck

haha cheers man, got a bit pissed when I saw what you wrote but tis all good now

Its basically a project to develop skills and learn while we go, I would like to get a running one first, just to have a drive ya know? No use getting something that dont work, then you cant tell the difference