hey there,umm ive got stuck half way threw a project on and xd 1980 falcon,ive done heaps of work to it from exhoust to engine,door handles,gearbox and paint all brand new,ive put a t5 5speed box in,engine has flat top pistons ,bottom end has been done fully adjustable timming ,351 valves ,double hardend valve springs,efi head from xf ,red line manifold,465 4barrel holley,elecrtonic ignition,stage 4 cam,exstractors,2005 ba fan and rad set up,3"5 diff gears and a procomp fuel pump + regulator,esp dash the interior is tidy but is origanal,i am the 3rd offical onwer of this car with papers with an orignal 79000km on the dash no joke!
my problem is ive lost my licence not to this car by the way,and i cant afford to do no more work i wanna sell it but its only worth somthing to som1 who likes a powerful fuel guzzler,should i sell or wait a bit incase it may become in investment
can som1 plz fill me in on wat i should do with it?

Lol, anything newer than 1979 will never become an "investment".

Take the running gear out, sell the body and put the running gear into something a little older, anything from the XP/XM to XW falcon would be cooler.

^^^^^ What he said....

Maybe find a cheap running motor and sell it complete to recoup some of the coin you have spent on the body/interior etc and throw the good running gear at something later when you can drive again...Man I read these threads and wonder how long the suspension is sometimes...Ive lost my license plenty over the years and never thought about selling my project car...Your call though man...

sorry deadsled but your wrong mate.. im watchin vh vc commodores lately not because i want one but just seen a few go up and up in price. No matter what you think about them now in years to come they will be classics and they will be worth money! Might take longer for some cars but the price will go up.

If i had lots of money i would be putting all sorts off shit away at the moment as i predict with the correct choice of cars will have a better return then my super will!!!

yeah how gay is it that "commodore" and "classic" can now be used in the same sentence.wtf is the world coming to

Couldn't agree more, what a damn shame.

I wouldn't say so much that they're becoming classics, classics of what, I think you could put that down to being more easier for adr/emission compliance being pre 86 unleaded adr's and/or like the replica GT market individuals could be choosing to do Brock replicas etc which would be more a case of consumer demand rather than them becoming classics in the traditional sense.

Mate what $$$ would you be chasing, I have a nice 400M Cleveland that would go nice in this if the body etc is all good so I'm not interested in the motor/box just the roller.

umm not sure on wat there worth it has the slightist surface rust in boot from wen the boot seal started to leak but its replaced now,apart from that its got no rust at all,make a reasonble offer and ill c wat i can do,oh and ive got an lsd centre in shed from an xf needs reco

thanks for ur help,umm ive been offerd a 68'2 door corty runs like a dream ready for rwc
for a strait swap wat do think

HAHA fk yeah u got that right

solution: Sell POS ford and buy some old holden iron. like my ute. 13k no rust, resprayed, hardlid, refreshed engine w/ full exhaust, chrome wheels, bunch of parts, 2 spare sets of wheels one with new tyres on it

hey mate love fords keep it if it owes u less than 8 gs if not piss it off
xe esp reach 38thousand now thjats after 79 ladys
to sell it ull get a maximun of 10grand because gay colour and it isnt a spac with the bars and pin stripe
id sell it get an xe esp or a xd s pack or xd ghia with the cobra 5.8 ltre a rust bucket still pulls 11 grand

if u no som1 that wants it i want around 6000 so let me no

Well most people Consider Hz's a classic dont they ? The VB Commodore Is the same age and the VC is getting there too I cant understand why it wouldnt be classed as classic being the same age and all... The last decent Holden ever made was the VH imo.

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They all look shit post '71

Eh, IMO Cortinas, and Gemini's for the GM side, are the oldschool cars that young people get when they can't have a real oldschool car.

I stand by my first post, sell the pos and put the running gear into anything from XM - XW.

Picking the classics is a bastard of a game, often what you'd think would pull a buck often doesn't unless you find somebody who really has a hard on for them. Production numbers mean nothing, nor does performance. Its whats trendy and in demand at the time that pulls the dollar.
As for the falcons, well, i've had a few... The early 80's XD XE and XF seem to fetch nothing unless they are original V8's, go like a shower of shit or a custom turbo 6 off its guts. I recently sold a original XE s pack, 192000km, manual, EFI, ford lowered springs, extractors, exhaust, rolled guards, straight as a die and got $450 for it unrego, yeah it was a bit rusty and going crows feet but it was like a set of new tyres away from rego!
ESP, yes will pull the dollars but if you want one but christ there is some many replicas out there its not funny!
XD XE V8 regoed usually start around $2000 for a turd box up to $20000 for a real mint one.
I recently picked up a XE original 2 owners, 3.3L auto unreg, straight but a bit rusty for $150, so i reckon the 6's will never be collectable.
Think about it really... who the hell hunts for a original 6 cyl XY???
A original XY V8 you'd kill you own mother for... if you were a falcon/ford lover.
If that corty is a mark1, its worth more than the XD, swap it no questions asked, far more collectable.

Lol, your telling me that an XE Falcon is worth 38 thousand? Seriously?

You then go on to say that they are getting a maximum of 11 thousand. Are you fucking retarded?

I've never understood why people like the look of early / mid 80's cars. They are just like everything else form the 80's era, complete shit.



Old Commodores and Falcons might be in the age bracket to be considered a "classic", but the fact is anyone who is into real oldschool / "classic" cars will never agree with you. Seems the only people who think their a classic are the people who own them, everyone else thinks their a shitbox.

It saddens me to think that early Commodores and Falcons are in the same genre as Kingswoods, Monaros, up to XW Falcons, Toranas ect.

the last decent holden to be made was the hq.i have a hz as a daily and i really dont think about it as a classic.its just a half decent lookin ute that i drive to work

Deadsled just cuz it doesnt appeal to you doesnt mean its a pos really? all i can see here is its opinion and if know1 likes it or agrees there wrong??? seriously mate grow up! sooner or later all the older shit will get more expensive which will push the prices off commos and falcons up. not saying that makes them a classic but i am saying if you bought the right cars now they will become investments if you looking to spend small coin now.

Like im sure if you could have been able to afford something older in good nick you wouldnt be driving a kingswood as a daily and dreaming about the day you finish one of those projects!

I dont understand why, They were going too make a 2 door version of the Vh and rebadge it as the Monaro would you have liked it then ?? Kingswood's are shitbox's, they served the same purpose as the Commodore they were just a povo pack Family car, How are they any better than one ???
Im not saying early Commodores are god's gift or somthing but ive owned my fair share of them and there certainly not POS. I own a Torana " Classic " lol Not a Commodore and i certaintaly dont share the same opinon as you, Imo your opinion is great and im happy your sharing it, but it dont mean everyone thinks the same as you.

I believe early commodores had real build quality issues, there isn't a piece of plastic in them thats hasn't faded, cracked or snapped off completely. There electrical work isn't real great either, headlight switches are made in china i swear! The automatic 6's are one of the most boring drives one can ever experience and the 202 drinks like a sailor on shore leave. Less said about the 253 the better lol.
However, reliability 9/10, looks imo 7-8/10 depending on model ( i h8 VK lol ), comfort 8/10... not a bad old thing, still prefer a falcon though lol.
Kingswoods... well... I learn't to drive in a HQ belmont around my parents paddock, it was factory pink lol. It was going to be my first car till rust set in and took the boot floor, which then made it un roadworthy coz it couldn't hold the fuel tank up anymore. H series are mad rusters, but what wasn't back then, some worse than others though. A h series with less than a 186 in it is really pushing shit up hill though, our HQ had a 202 and it was no monster by any means except on fuel consumption lol. Also had a HZ ute with a red 179 in it, talk about a nugget, it was real hard for it to move.
XD-XE falcon have made a big comeback over the past few years, they aren't as bad as they are made out to be. If you wana point fingers at the bad falcon look no further than the EA and AU series 1. They are the 2 biggest pieces of shit ford have ever fucked up on. Ask any ford mechanic and he will tell you! XD-XE are great for cleveland conversions and doing transplants of all types coz they have a larger than usual engine bay, i've been told the XD-XE engine bay is a inch wider than a XY for a start, making them fairly easy to install a 460 in. Some pretty good stuff was made in the 80's and yes there was some rubbish too, so please don't generalise by saying everything made in the 80s was junk.

thats correct.

what he is saying is that XE ESP Fairmont Ghias do fetch up to 38k. especially the 351, toploader items and that is all original and unmolested, either restored or unrestored. And yes some of the more "desirable" models of early 80's falcons do get good dollars for them....Why? you ask.....because thet are the next collector items for the up and coming generation. The cars of the 60' and 70's were the collectables for the baby boomer generation and gen X. now cars from the 70's and 80's will become the car to buy for gen x and y. Its generational you see, but you still being a young whipper snapper just doesnt see or understand it yet. you will in time..

Perhaps, although i think its also cause even though i should be buying "collectable" 80's cars, i'm stuck buying the cars your grandparents owned

funny that. i drive a car thats 42 yrs old every day and I have met a few grandparents who used to own one of them as well over the time that i've owned it.