hey all

downlaod the forza2 demo is pretty awesome. you can also get hotlaps and comparer them online!

gt 5 will dominate

I tried downloading the demo on my xbox, it made it over heat and burn down half my room

Went and pre-ordered the limited edition version today. The demo is fantastic, physics are smack on!

agreed, gran turismo 5 will be the best ice-skating simulator released in 2010. as far as racing simulators go though, Forza 3 will undoubtedly be the king of the hill. the demo is just superb. have fun waiting another 6 months for GT4 HD.

gt 5 is a real simulator

It'll be worth the wait too.

gt5 will be awsome , hence why its taking so long..

forza comes out every so often..

The last forza was released over 3/4 years ago I believe. GT5 is a great game, but really, it lacks alot in the department of physics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znmb3BtsGos

Fucking epic n shit.

Forza 2 was like 2 years ago actually.

Fun Fact - Turn 10 have released Forza, Forza 2, and Forza 3 all in the time its taken polyphony to update GT4 to HD.

Yeah only because Turn 10 haven't made anything else other than Forza 1, 2, and 3. From the time GT4 was released up until now PD have released Tourist Trophy, GT HD, GT5P, and GTPSP while still working on GT5.


Things take time. The developement of GT5 to me is very similar to Rockstar's GTAIV. Rockstar spent almost 4 years on GTA IV, and IMO it was worth every bit of the wait. I can see the same with GT5.


Don't get me wrong the Forza gamese are brilliant, but I can eventually see the series ending up like NFS aka a milked cash in.

Was a massive Gran Turismo fan, considering I've played them all since the first edition and I was reluctant to say Forza was better until I played Forza 2.

Now I don't particularly care how many polygons people can put onto a cars physics model or how accurate the interior of a cockpit is, what I do look for is how much tuning I can do with a car within the game thus increasing the games playability. I like having the ability in changing the aero package on a car to get more out of it on track ... or to make it look like a Saturday night car park riced special this keeps me coming back and wanting to play the bloody thing !

And it's possible that Polyphony are withholding the release date because they fear how good Forza 3 will be ?

I must admit the tuning side is better, and so are the exhausts notes, but what I look forward to the most when playing racing games is the amount of cars I can choose from. Gran Turismo annnilates Forza in this area.

woo im in the top 50 on leaderboards for drift score

My best hot lap time is 1:00.829 in the GT3:)

GT:HD was a quick little demo that was just GT4 in HD. it had a handful of cars and 1 track, all running on the GT4 engine. a few months work tops, as all they had to do was slightly update the graphics and make some new menus. GT5:P wouldve been even easier, as they just took their running version of GT5 and released it as GT5:P, minus most of the cars and tracks. its like other developers releasing demos - they just take a part of the already made game and release it, not much work needed at all. only thing is they dont charge $60 for it unlike polyphony. GTPSP, well its just a PS2 port, but with the career mode taken out.


you prefer quantity over quality, im the other way. gimme 400 cars with full damage, full interiors, awesome graphics, and theyre all cars that i would actually want to drive, over 1000 cars consisting of about 30 evos, 30 skylines, 30 silvias, and then 500 daihatsus/daewoos/hyundais any day of the week.

i got to about 90% or so in GT4, and i reckon i only used about 50 of the 800 cars, purely because i didnt want to race in 60kw FWD econoboxes. who wants to race a car that does 0-100km/h in 25 seconds? i wouldnt in real life, let alone a game.

u do pose good points

Nevermind. I'm done arguing over this shit.

A lot of the cars I don't actually drive in most of the games, particularly the variants of the F1 cars as their wasn't much fiddling to be done with them compared to buying a bog stock car and modifying it to be raced.

Also a lot of Gran Turismo's varients where just model updates and didn't change the driving characteristics much ie GT-R R32 - R34 range

I did however thoroughly enjoy being able to replicate my very own track car; at the time it was an EG Civic hatch with Type-R running gear and race it at places like Tsukuba. Engine transplants and aero are just options that I don't think I could play a game with now after playing Forza 2

playing GT after Forza just feels like a massive step back to the dark ages. any game that has 2 different sets of physics - normal and 'pro' - that you get to choose from cant call itself a simulator.

How dare they give an option to people if they want a fun game or serious game.

i tried driving with the california first, roads and tires felt like they were made out of bubblegum everything stuck so much lol (to be fair i'd just played the demo for that steaming pile of shit NFS:shift, where apparently roads are made of ice and tires are coated in teflon). felt much better in the RSR, felt like forza should lol

GT5 has WRC and NASCAR (boring) and it also is looking like F1 will be in it to. Besides i have a ps3 so its GT5 for me not gonna go out and trade my ps3 in for a crapbox cause a few ppl who have never played gt5 think froza 3 is the end all be all of racing games >_>

F1 WILL be in it, if its not then WTF POLYPHONY.
NASCAR will be crap, i remember doing 300 laps in GT3 because you couldn't get a teammate to do it.

Pre order Forza 3 FTW.
but ive always been a GT5 fan and reckon its gonna be a close toss up on which i will want to play more haha

not if you actually want to play one of them in the next 6 months.

Last night I was watching a gameplay video of the 888 Falcon in Forza 3. The interior looked impressive, but I noticed no gear changing animations?

It was confirmed along time ago there would be no hand movement to the shifter animations, really, I couldn't give a shit. It's something hard to pull off correctly. Look at codemasters, they fucked it up in GRiD and DiRT2.

The game itself is going to be fantastic by the look of things. Customization is massive, now able to do seperate drivetrain and engine swaps, so we can finally have a RWD RB26. Along with things like the choice of twin turbos etc. They even allow you to put a Ford V8 into a ford focus.

rb26 into a mustang?

yeah at first i was a bit disappointed that there was no shifting animation, but then i realised that it really doesnt matter. NFS Shift has it, but like you said, its very hard to pull off correctly because the game cant anticipate when youre gonna change gears, and the animation for changing gears needs to start before you press the button for it to work properly. Shift just starts the animation when you press the gear change button, so the shifting always looks a split second off.

Yeah it's not a big drama. Just would've been a nice touch considering they've gone to all the trouble of making the interiors look as real as possilble.


The shift animations in Shift are really cool. I think it's the first console racing game I've played where not only does the driver shift the gears into the right positions, but also you can see him use the clutch, and brake pedal.

agreed, everything about the in-car view in Shift is win.

the best thing IMO is how the view shakes around like a real persons head would. thats the one thing id change about Forza 3s in-car view, its too steady.

Legit copy > Demo/Pirated.

This is a fun feature.. got the Focus RS and tempted to put in a 5L v8 and convert to rwd (like the SVT Focus).. the other engine swap option is the engine from the RS200 Group B car.. can also convert the car to AWD.

dare ya to play online with it today. ms are banning peeps that have played forza 3 and borderlands b4 the release dates

only if it's an illegal copy.

If you have a receipt then you have nothing to worry about.

it's not an illegal copy, hence the embargo sticker on it.

also, despite the fact it's a legal copy, there's no way in the world i would risk going online with it before official release date... knowing how anal MS can be about some things...

safer just to play offline, then connect to live when release date comes around

OT: got a 360 wifi racing wheel for it today as well... definitely a much better in cabin driving experience... I was skeptical at first of the physics etc (from the demo) but I've warmed to them and enjoy it much more than fm2 now

Definitely a wicked game. A+++++ recommended to all of all ages.

its played b4 the release date its not released till friday morning in the asia region u will get banned for aquiring it b4 the release date try and let us know

you'll be fine as long as it's not an illegal copy
http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/200...-Xbox-Live.aspx

should have waited with the wheel they are releasing the xbox wheel with forza 3

I WANT FUCKING G25 FOR 360. FUCK YOU LOGITECH

fuck logitech
go fanatec
http://www.fanatec.com/
check out there wheels n shit look miles better then logitec

Picked up my pre-order. Fuck yessssss!

im going to get mine tomorrow
i seen it today on shelves in bigw

Just bought an S13, coilovers etc and took it for a run on fuji. Drifting feels 10x better already.

how much free space do you need to install the second disc? lol i only got the arcade xbox so i will need to buy a hard drive ...am i missing out on much ?

You need 1.4gb. I have no idea, I installed the second disc straight up.

cool thanks mate lol i have one of them 120mb memory cards that come with the arcade damn i have to buy a hard drive lol