How fast is glen setons capri v6 3litre it has won against very powerful camaros and falcons of late,it broke the lap racord at morgan park and demolished the toranas and escorts. Great car and driver combo,I spoke to barry(glens father) at lakeside recently and he said glens car would do a 58 sec lap there.

are you asking a question or telling a fact?

Well its a motor sport topic and not many peple would relise how fast some of the old school cars can go.

Quit while your behind

We did the headers and exhaust system at CES Racing

NEVER

this thread needs pics! wanna see this car bad

saying it and doing it are two different things. but a time by itself doesn't tell you much. 58 is damn fast for a road car, damn slow for a sport sedan. What category is it built to? Is it an old Group C car or is it built for Historic Touring Cars, or Biante rules??? Any idea on its power? Does it run slicks or treaded tyres? What time did it do at Morgan Park?

Well the 1990's GTR's were very fast and won against well everything it raced against. Great old car. 12sec lakeside Lap yo!

actually the BMW M3's used to beat the GTRs at Lakeside more often than not.
pole for Group A races used to be around 52-53s.

I had to do some delving and you were right but in the wrong context

the GTR's won 7/9 rounds, as well as the endurance races in 1991.
The BMW me did win the actual race @ lakeside, not because it was faster, but because the GTR of richards developed a bad misfire with a few laps to go.

So they wernt really faster, and the only times the GTR's lost in 91', were when they had mechanical issues.

in 1991 they changed the weights to this
The Sierra's had 85kg removed from their minimum weight, bringing them down to 1,100kg. They also got a six speed gearbox. The Commodores also lost some weight - down to 1250kg, and a host of freedoms including the entire inlet system, the valves and ports were free, and the inner wheel guards could be modified to fit wider tyres.
The BMW M3 was allowed to run at a featherweight 960kg.
The GT-R had it's minimum weight increased to 1360kg @ 600hp


in 1992 it was this!

The Nissan GT-R had a new minimum weight of 1,400 kg, a boost restriction to 1.3 bar which was calculated to cut the power to 336kw down from 477kw, along with a limit on compression to 9.5:1. The Commodores and Sierras were given an electronic rev limit of 7,500 rpm. This was designed to cut costs as the top tier Commodore teams were using 8,500 rpm in an effort to keep up with the Sierras/GTR's which resulted in many broken engines

All those changes and it still somehow won :S allthough it was only 4/9 rounds, but in the rounds they didnt win there was a bunch of podiums

No wonder they banned the dam things!


Shows how hard it is to have 5 different makes all be competitive but also be fair

http://www.fastlane.com.au/Features/Seton_Capri_010803.htm

It is a group nc historic ,295 hp ,205 60 13 treaded tyres, fastest lap at m/p was 1.10.4.
2 first places at muscel car masters, fastest lap was 1.47.

The racing now is boring,back then the cars had differnt strenghts,the m3 flogged both gtrs, i was there and have vidio fooage of both races.M3 won regualy at amaroo park.

That is not glens car his is blue and is set up to suit his driving.

Ford v6 photo

Its my old race car from the eighties my best lap time was 1.04 on 205 60 13. The cars now run roller cams so they make a hell of a lot more hp than i had back then.The toranas and rotorys used to beat me so its great to see glen giving those guys curry now.

Amaroo and lakeside out of 9 rounds, and it was very very close, not exactly a flogging. But what surprised me was where were the sierra's.

Still i agree, the current 2make format is rather boring, allthough i hear there will be changes over the next 5 years or so to spice it up

right in the wrong context??? I said the BMW M3's used to beat the GTRs at Lakeside more often than not.
here's the cold hard facts:
1991 there was 2 rounds at Lakeside
Round 4: 1st GTR 2nd GTR 3rd M3
The GTRs lead from start to finish. GTR got pole with a 53.43, M3 2nd on the grid with a 53.68. GTRs blitzed everything off the line and with their light weight at that stage were able to maintain the gap right through the race.

Round 8: 1st M3 2nd M3 3rd GTR
The GTRs took off from the field at the start of the race. But as the race went on, their times dropped off. The M3s just keep on churning out the same times they set in qualifying. Longhurst in the BMW passed the GTRs fair and square on race pace. The GTRs then stopped for tyres and both M3s sailed off into the distance. Skaife developed a minor problem late in the race while running 3rd which allowed Richo to pass him in the other GTR. So the M3 didn't win because Richard's developing a bad misfire.


1992 Round 5 was at Lakeside. There was 2 heats (races), both won by the M3s.

Heat 1: 1st M3 2nd GTR 3rd Sierra
The GTRs started down the feild - sandbagging in protest of the extra weight they had to carry for parity & trying to get it reduced before Bathurst. The M3s were also carrying extra weight this year, but went storming through the feild. Longhurst passing Bowe and Perkins to take the lead. Skaife got through to finish 2nd, so obviously the extra weight wasn't really causing their poor qualifying performance. So the M3 didn't win because Richard's developing a bad misfire in that one either.

Heat 2: 1st M3 2nd GTR 3rd M3
Skaife took new tyres and as a result he had to start at the back of the grid + a 10sec penalty! In the race Longhurst came storming back through the feild after getting swamped off the line as the underpowered BMWs did... and was catching Richards' GTR in the lead. Richards ran off through the kink and Longhurst moved into the lead. Richards finished 2nd. So the M3 didn't win because Richard's developing a bad misfire in that one either.

So as I said, The M3s used to beat the GTR more often than not at Lakeside.

Well wouldnt that rip the fork out off ya nighty.Iwas on the inside at hungry on those particular races and jones especally was awsome in his m3 under brakes,cause like perkins he had to take a lower hp car so longhurst(boss) would win.