So I've decided I'm too skinny for my liking, I'm going to see a doctor on the weekend to see if my hypo/hyper-metabolism (I forget which one) has stopped. Basically I've tried going to the gym for 2 years and doing the whole eat fish/ chicken/ egg whites etc also tried protein powders and weight gain powders as well as well as eating fatty foods and doing nothing, nothing has worked.

So I'm at a loss as to how to gain weight. So I've resorted to medical professionals. But I'm just interested as to if there is anything out there that might help me out. To be honest I'm not a fan of going back to the gym either, I'm not interested in gaining muscular mass at this point in time, just mass.

So yeah, any ideas?

Hyper-metabolism is when your metabolic rate is pretty much in overdrive.

Anyways, seems like you have tried most of the common "remedies" to being skinny. Most often than not increasing daily intake to 6+ meals (mostly carb intensive foods such as brown rice, past, potato..) coupled with weights is the answer. If you do indeed suffer from some form of hyper-metabolism I suggest identifying your basal metabolic rate and going from there.

after giving me shit today about how much I eat


just eat nis, eat alot. it really is that simple, carb it up.

you dont need the gym to gain weight, just eat.

Have you tried drinking 4 liters of milk a day.
I'm in the same boat as you, couldn't gain any real weight after 2 years of trying.
Did the GOMAD and got some good results, just starting to cut back on the milk now to try and drop a little bit of fat.
The link to it is around here somewehere.
There are a few of us here following that program, the more the merrier.
If it doesn't work for you I would be suprised.

Get married.

how much did u gain and over how long a time?
start weight and finish weight?
i started this on monday but am only doing 2-2.5litres this week then hopefully 3 litres next week and go from there.
2 litres is pretty easy but its just very boring.

That actually sounds like a half descent plan already. I'm quite found of milk as it is, so I should be able to start next week sometime.

When I first started (before any training, except for footy training) i was 67kg
I am now 79kg
I can't recall exactly how long it was over, three months maybe just under
so thats 12 kg in that time, which is pretty good apparantly.

edit: mind you I wasn't always very disciplined with my milk intake, sometimes I only got down 3 liters a day, not sure what kind of an effect it would of had otherwise.
Im drinking less full fat milk now I'm at a good weight I could probably afford to put on some more muscle though. I am currently on an advanced 5x5 just to test my limits, then I will be going back to a standard routine.

I'm at 70kg and 210cm I want to get into the 90kg range hopefully.

I also recommend you join a gym whislt doing this, If i wsn't doing any weight training i'd probably turn into a blob.
Bill starr's 5x5 will help you out in that regard. Then when you finish that there are a few good routines you could probably do minus the exorbiant amount of milk.

aside from milk, just eat, pretty much anything. pizza, ice cream, dont worry about bodyfat

Would free weights or something like that be adequate as well? Say 3 - 4 times a week for an hour or 2?

yeah it would, but dont bother with running or anything

If you've lifted before:

http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/5x5_.../Linear_5x5.htm

This is Bill starrs's 5x5 program (which we are doing, or some variant of, combined with the GOMAD diet)As you can see you do a fair bit of squatting and alot of heavy weights, it will help you grow. Read it, do what it says, don't substitute your exercises, don't use machines.

If you haven't lifted before there is a beginner program you can try, but it probably won't be as effective.

Nis, I'll trade you. I've been eating healthy as hell, training 4 nights a week, cardio one night and I am STILL putting on weight. I WISH it was muscle, but I sort of doubt it =/

STERIODS

Not exactly what he's looking for, was going to flame you for the response but seeing as steroids does increase weight due to other factors it is a valid response.

how about you let us know what you eat in a day, make a log and post up and let the more knowledgeable guys comment on it.

pfff if he is what he say he is which weight gain is hard and wants mass, u can try every protein power on the market nothing will work sitt down and eat and still dosnt work u need a growth hormone. but i advise that steriods aint good just live the way you r, these days to many ppl walk around all buff and full off shit mate just work out at the gym and your body will do what it wants

Sure thing to help reduce your bank balance also


Free weights, 1 hour sessions, 4 times a week. No cardio what so ever. Diet is going to be a big thing, no junk food, eat as healthy as possible and no alcohol what so ever. Sometimes inability to gain weight can be a hormone thing, and putting any toxins into your body is not going to help.


STEROIDS is actually not a bad idea, in a serious sense. Have you had any blood tests done Mr B to ensure all your hormone levels are right? If there is some deficiences, some proper prescribed steroids could actually be very beneficial. People are so quick to judge steroids without realising what a vital role they have when used in medicine to correct many different types of deficiences in the body. It's the over abuse and black market stuff that goes on that gives them a bad name. Yet when taken in proper dosages, they are extremely beneficial to the human body, and for improving quality of life.

Speaking about steroids have you watched Bigger, Faster, Stronger? Awesome doco on steroids and the gym/weightlifting world. Before watching it I was against roids but after watching it I now have an open and unbiased stance on it.

yeah but the ones on the streets are full of shit

No, I will have to look it up.


This is the problem, along with people not knowing how to take them properly. They think more is better, which is not always the case. I have often thought about starting a thread in here about steroids, but sadly it's a topic that most people are very uneducated about, and would only come out with alot of dribble about the topic.

I'm in the same boat mate, I'm 175cm and a mere 58kg and I'm eating a shitload of food everyday and my weight will not even budge...really really sucks, though I've been lazy and not doing any sort of weight training lately...

I can gain weight easily, earlier this year in the space of four weeks i gained 10kg. I was lifting weights 3 times a week about 1.5 hours. Was drinking 3 litres of milk, 6 peanut butter sandwiches, lean meat and vegies, 6-7 meals a day. It was good to see i could do it but fuck all of it was muscle and its abit of a @#$! trying to loose it atm, want to get back to 85kg

Eat. + this: http://www.ptcfrankston.com/doc/newsletter..._IssueNo58.html

is that a site marcos set up?


looks good

agree with what b unit said

Yes.

i had the same problem, thought i was eating alot, just eat a shit load and lift heavy, and you will get results, post up your diet first

Here is the secret to gaining weight, in a nutshell.

Consume more calories than you are burning.

Care to list your stats, diet and workout? Everyone says the eat enough, but when someone posts their actual diet, you see it falls short in many key areas.

Unfortunately i dont know how to get around hyper metabolism. And like everyone else has said, weight is all about carbs, not saying muscle, but weight.

You need to have a huge intake of carbs, which will increase your intake of calories dramatically. Ignore this shit about pizza and icecream, you still need it to be clean carbs.

If you are going to use supplements, which i strongly suggest, you need a mass gainer, which has a 1:1 ratio of carbs:protein, somewhere up above 50g's of each per serve would be a god start. Use that, when you get up, before you train, after you train, and before bed. If you want to get real intense, eat a good serve of protein and carbs 5 - 6 times a day with a mass shake in between.

You need to keep the protein equal to the carbs so it doesn't go straight to fat. But with these diets, its highly advisable to train heavy, cause even protein stores as fat.

As for the guy suggesting milk, sounds feasible, but i've never looked into it, im intrigued. And as for steroids, that is true as well, but finding a doctor to prescribe you with roids just cause you think you don't weigh enough, i wish you luck. It worked a treat for my uncle who was very very ill and lost a lot of weigh, he was down to <60 kg's after surgery, and prescription roids worked an absolute treat, but the doctor prescribing them has been disallowed from medical practices since then and no other GP will prescribe them. But there's no harm in asking.

I am not sure about 4 litres of milk per day. I think that is a bit excessive. I consume 2 litres of skim milk ( with my protein supplement ) which is 97% fat free, but it does contain sugar which is used as a preservative. That is broken up over 2 1 litre serves. I have never mixed my protein with water because it tastes like shit and there is a good hit of protein in milk.

So Mr B, any progress update on this?

Edited.....retract my comment after taking other things into account

yeah and once you stop taking the d-bol watch you piss away all the fluid retention... if he has no idea on training and nutrition i would not recommend taking steroids.

^^ agreed

Please refrain from suggesting illegal activity, not to mention recommending a highly liver toxic steroid at that. Far better ones out there for the educated. Dianabol is from the 60's if not older.

GOMAD gallan of milk a day. Its helping me heaps, im up 10 kilos

i did that for a month.. but was drinking 3litres of milk, not four.
put on 2 kilos in 2 weeks then the last 2 weeks didnt put any weight on

were you actually training properly?


the first 2 kg were probably from water retention

eat befor u goo 2 bed of a night time. when ur sleepin ur diguestive system slows down and doesnt break up the food as fast, therefore u gain more weight if u eat a decent amount of food ust befor bed.