Full Version: The Future Of Renault Team?
so, 21st Sep is coming! Briatore and Symonds have already left... whats the future of poor Alonso? it is for sure that renault team will be banned for an year or two.
I belive its there own fault for cheating in a race!
QUOTE (35NIK @ Sep 19 2009, 11:11 AM) 
I belive its there own fault for cheating in a race!
heh, at least it made F1 interesting for 5 minutes
they should get +100 style points for having the balls to purposely crash
Moved to motorsports
QUOTE (clutch-monkey @ Sep 19 2009, 06:42 AM)
heh, at least it made F1 interesting for 5 minutes
they should get +100 style points for having the balls to purposely crash
they should get +100 style points for having the balls to purposely crash
i beg to differ with you on this, i hear lot of people say this, F1 was boring when Schumi was always 1st, Rubens was second and third place kept on changing... but now F1 has definitely become more interesting, with Brawn GP doing so well in their first year w/o KERS, next Lotus will be coming back...
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Renault have been handed a two-year suspended ban by the International Automobile Federation (FIA) for ordering Nelson Piquet junior to crash in the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix.
The verdict was handed down by the sport's governing body the International Automobile Federation (FIA) after a one-and-a-half-hour hearing at their Paris headquarters on Monday.
Renault were in the dock for conspiring with Piquet junior to cause a deliberate crash to help the Brazilian's teammate, Fernando Alonso, win the race.
The French outfit could have faced permanent exclusion from the sport over 'crashgate' as the affair became known but escaped that ultimate sanction after the departure of Piquet, team boss Flavio Briatore and chief engineer Pat Symonds.
As well as Renault's suspended ban, Briatore himself was handed an "unlimited" ban from the sport while Symonds was suspended for five years.
Piquet junior and Alonso were among those who appeared before the FIA hearing after which the 26 members of the World Motor Sports Council met to decide what action to take.
Alonso was cleared of any involvement in the conspiracy.
The verdict was handed down by the sport's governing body the International Automobile Federation (FIA) after a one-and-a-half-hour hearing at their Paris headquarters on Monday.
Renault were in the dock for conspiring with Piquet junior to cause a deliberate crash to help the Brazilian's teammate, Fernando Alonso, win the race.
The French outfit could have faced permanent exclusion from the sport over 'crashgate' as the affair became known but escaped that ultimate sanction after the departure of Piquet, team boss Flavio Briatore and chief engineer Pat Symonds.
As well as Renault's suspended ban, Briatore himself was handed an "unlimited" ban from the sport while Symonds was suspended for five years.
Piquet junior and Alonso were among those who appeared before the FIA hearing after which the 26 members of the World Motor Sports Council met to decide what action to take.
Alonso was cleared of any involvement in the conspiracy.
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/152516/1/fia_...lt_verdict.html
More worried about Webber... Briatore is/was his manager.
But it looks like they'll still be racing until the end of 2011... But I seriously doubt they'll be putting much effort/money into it next year.
On another note, I would like to congratulate the FIA for doing this. Renault is one of the big teams in the F1 stable, and Briatore is also a big name. For them to kick the team out for 2 years, and to basically banish Briatore from ALL FIA organised events for the rest of his life is taking a big stand against this kind of thing.
If this happened in Australia, it would either be overlooked because the team is to big to kick out, or the team and manager would be given a slap on the wrist.
Australian sport in general could really take a leaf out of the book of European sport. Over there if you are caught cheating, doing drugs, being disrespectful to woman or anything along those lines, you are given a lengthy ban, and your name is generally worthless. Here you can be a confessed coke head, get a 1 year ban, go to numerous rehab clinics… and then still come back to the sport after your ban is up, and still be considered as a hero.
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The FIA has announced that Renault has been given a two-year suspended ban for the race fixing scandal that hit the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix.
Following a meeting of the World Motor Sport Council in Paris, the governing body revealed that Renault's actions – which it stated were of 'unparalleled severity' - were deemed serious enough to merit 'permanent disqualification from the FIA Formula One World Championship'.
However, with the team having admitted its guilt and taken steps to address the problem by removing both Flavio Briatore and Pat Symonds from their roles, the decision was taken to suspend the disqualification until the end of the 2011 season. Any comparable breach during that time will see Renault's disqualification from the sport activated.
Renault has also agreed to make a significant contribution to FIA safety-related projects and will pay the costs incurred by the FIA during its investigation.
While Nelson Piquet Jr will not face any sanctions - having been granted immunity by the governing body in exchange for giving information against his former employers – the same can't be said for both Briatore and Symonds, who have been hit hard by the FIA.
The statement from the WMSC revealed that, for an unlimited period, 'the FIA does not intend to sanction any International Event, Championship, Cup, Trophy, Challenge or Series involving Mr. Briatore in any capacity whatsoever, or grant any license to any Team or other entity engaging Mr. Briatore in any capacity whatsoever. It also hereby instructs all officials present at FIA-sanctioned events not to permit Mr. Briatore access to any areas under the FIA's jurisdiction'.
The former team principle will also face the prospect of losing a number of drivers currently under his management after the FIA revealed that it will not renew the superlicence of any driver associated with Briatore 'or any entity or individual associated with him'. Fernando Alonso, Mark Webber and Heikki Kovalainen are amongst the drivers currently managed by the Italian.
Disgraced former director of engineering Symonds faces a similar ban for a period of five years.
The WMSC also reiterated that Alonso, the beneficiary of the incident as he secured victory in F1's first night race, was not involved in any way with what occurred.
Following a meeting of the World Motor Sport Council in Paris, the governing body revealed that Renault's actions – which it stated were of 'unparalleled severity' - were deemed serious enough to merit 'permanent disqualification from the FIA Formula One World Championship'.
However, with the team having admitted its guilt and taken steps to address the problem by removing both Flavio Briatore and Pat Symonds from their roles, the decision was taken to suspend the disqualification until the end of the 2011 season. Any comparable breach during that time will see Renault's disqualification from the sport activated.
Renault has also agreed to make a significant contribution to FIA safety-related projects and will pay the costs incurred by the FIA during its investigation.
While Nelson Piquet Jr will not face any sanctions - having been granted immunity by the governing body in exchange for giving information against his former employers – the same can't be said for both Briatore and Symonds, who have been hit hard by the FIA.
The statement from the WMSC revealed that, for an unlimited period, 'the FIA does not intend to sanction any International Event, Championship, Cup, Trophy, Challenge or Series involving Mr. Briatore in any capacity whatsoever, or grant any license to any Team or other entity engaging Mr. Briatore in any capacity whatsoever. It also hereby instructs all officials present at FIA-sanctioned events not to permit Mr. Briatore access to any areas under the FIA's jurisdiction'.
The former team principle will also face the prospect of losing a number of drivers currently under his management after the FIA revealed that it will not renew the superlicence of any driver associated with Briatore 'or any entity or individual associated with him'. Fernando Alonso, Mark Webber and Heikki Kovalainen are amongst the drivers currently managed by the Italian.
Disgraced former director of engineering Symonds faces a similar ban for a period of five years.
The WMSC also reiterated that Alonso, the beneficiary of the incident as he secured victory in F1's first night race, was not involved in any way with what occurred.
More worried about Webber... Briatore is/was his manager.
But it looks like they'll still be racing until the end of 2011... But I seriously doubt they'll be putting much effort/money into it next year.
On another note, I would like to congratulate the FIA for doing this. Renault is one of the big teams in the F1 stable, and Briatore is also a big name. For them to kick the team out for 2 years, and to basically banish Briatore from ALL FIA organised events for the rest of his life is taking a big stand against this kind of thing.
If this happened in Australia, it would either be overlooked because the team is to big to kick out, or the team and manager would be given a slap on the wrist.
Australian sport in general could really take a leaf out of the book of European sport. Over there if you are caught cheating, doing drugs, being disrespectful to woman or anything along those lines, you are given a lengthy ban, and your name is generally worthless. Here you can be a confessed coke head, get a 1 year ban, go to numerous rehab clinics… and then still come back to the sport after your ban is up, and still be considered as a hero.
I think they did the right thing in laying down he harshest penalties to the individual parties most involved
A lifetime ban to FIA events...ouch
This action should keep the sport in favour
A lifetime ban to FIA events...ouch
This action should keep the sport in favour
Alonso will be in a ferrari seat next year and raikkonen will goto rally. Thats what i think.
QUOTE (45SET @ Sep 22 2009, 10:18 AM)
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/152516/1/fia_...lt_verdict.html
More worried about Webber... Briatore is/was his manager.
But it looks like they'll still be racing until the end of 2011... But I seriously doubt they'll be putting much effort/money into it next year.
On another note, I would like to congratulate the FIA for doing this. Renault is one of the big teams in the F1 stable, and Briatore is also a big name. For them to kick the team out for 2 years, and to basically banish Briatore from ALL FIA organised events for the rest of his life is taking a big stand against this kind of thing.
If this happened in Australia, it would either be overlooked because the team is to big to kick out, or the team and manager would be given a slap on the wrist.
Australian sport in general could really take a leaf out of the book of European sport. Over there if you are caught cheating, doing drugs, being disrespectful to woman or anything along those lines, you are given a lengthy ban, and your name is generally worthless. Here you can be a confessed coke head, get a 1 year ban, go to numerous rehab clinics… and then still come back to the sport after your ban is up, and still be considered as a hero.
More worried about Webber... Briatore is/was his manager.
But it looks like they'll still be racing until the end of 2011... But I seriously doubt they'll be putting much effort/money into it next year.
On another note, I would like to congratulate the FIA for doing this. Renault is one of the big teams in the F1 stable, and Briatore is also a big name. For them to kick the team out for 2 years, and to basically banish Briatore from ALL FIA organised events for the rest of his life is taking a big stand against this kind of thing.
If this happened in Australia, it would either be overlooked because the team is to big to kick out, or the team and manager would be given a slap on the wrist.
Australian sport in general could really take a leaf out of the book of European sport. Over there if you are caught cheating, doing drugs, being disrespectful to woman or anything along those lines, you are given a lengthy ban, and your name is generally worthless. Here you can be a confessed coke head, get a 1 year ban, go to numerous rehab clinics… and then still come back to the sport after your ban is up, and still be considered as a hero.
they handed them a 2 year suspended sentence, meaning they will remain in the sport unless something similar happens again or arises to the attention of the FIA, the only way they will not compete is if they leave formula one themselves because i find it highly unlikely for the people who will replace briatore and symonds to make the same mistake...
i feel bad for alonso, he can survive, he will be having many teams opting for him, coz i appreciate this man, with a below average car he is still scoring some points, whoever gets him, he will be a priced catch! i dont think Ferrari will have him, coz they have already promised a reserved role to giancarlo fisichela, chances are that McLaren will either opt for Nico or Kimi.. whatever it may be, next year it will be interesting to see who goes where!
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