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GreekWarrior
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THE sequel to a popular video game has been banned in Australia after failing to receive a rating of MA15+.

Left 4 Dead 2 was refused classification by the Classifications Board this week, meaning it will be banned from sale.

In its report the board said the game, due to be released in November, contained "realistic, frenetic and unrelenting violence".

"The game contains violence that is high in impact and is therefore unsuitable for persons under 18 years to play," the report said.

There is no adult rating for video games in Australia. Any game that fails to meet the criteria for MA15+ is refused classification.

Gametraders national marketing manager Chad Polley said the decision was "hugely disappointing".

"Left 4 Dead 2 was expected to be even bigger than the original version," he said.

"We had huge predictions of sales."

At least one member of the Classifications Board disagreed with the decision.

"A minority of the board is of the opinion that the violence is strong in playing impact and therefore warrants an MA15+ classification," the report said.

Such a classification would have allowed the game to be sold in Australia.

Mr Polley said the decision highlighted the need to reform the rating system for games.

"We would love to see an R18+ rating introduced for more transparency around games," he said.

Earlier today distributor Electronic Arts told gaming blog Kotaku it was in discussions with the Office of Film and Literature Classification.

"(We) are still working through the submission process with the OFLC and want to explore all opportunities before making any comment," the company said.

Left 4 Dead 2 is the fourth title to be banned in Australia this year after strip poker game Sexy Poker, shooter Necrovision and role-playing game Risen.

Edited versions of Sexy Poker and Necrovision were both rated M after resubmission.

The plot of the original Left 4 Dead followed four survivors of a medical pandemic as they battled zombie-like victims. It received several end-of-year awards from gaming publications.


http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,...5014239,00.html


seriously what the shit
Chris
L4D was pretty shit in the first place IMO.

But this is just fucked up.
GreekWarrior
haven't played the first one myself, but still, australia is useless for games, not only do we have the classification shit we also have to pay more than other countries
future_dictator
yes cos zombie killing is realistic.
Chris
QUOTE (GreekWarrior @ Sep 17 2009, 03:36 PM) *
haven't played the first one myself, but still, australia is useless for games, not only do we have the classification shit we also have to pay more than other countries

Its nothing special.
There is 5mins worth of SP gameplay, 4 weapons, and same shit is just repeated over and over again.
Haven't played online, this is just the Skullptura rip.


Mods might make it better though, haven't had a look at them.
IRT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games

Take a look Australia is an epic fail for video games compared to everywhere else.
future_dictator
yeah so much for our country being free...
RetardedMonkey
QUOTE (Chris @ Sep 17 2009, 06:49 PM) *
Its nothing special.
There is 5mins worth of SP gameplay, 4 weapons, and same shit is just repeated over and over again.
Haven't played online, this is just the Skullptura rip.


Mods might make it better though, haven't had a look at them.

Sorry dude, but if you haven't played L4D online, you haven't played L4D at all.

It totally changes in online gameplay!
BozzA
Lucky you dont have to worry since valve will never release it on the ps3 anyway. mamoru.gif

Same shit happened with Fallout 3. The version they showed is refused classication, they'll just make some changes and it'll get released here fine...Hopefully.

Doesnt really matter for PC side of things, i assume it'll still be avaliable on Steam anyway? I got no idea how classification would work with online distribution.
GreekWarrior
QUOTE (BozzA @ Sep 18 2009, 02:30 PM) *
Lucky you dont have to worry since valve will never release it on the ps3 anyway. mamoru.gif

Same shit happened with Fallout 3. The version they showed is refused classication, they'll just make some changes and it'll get released here fine...Hopefully.

Doesnt really matter for PC side of things, i assume it'll still be avaliable on Steam anyway? I got no idea how classification would work with online distribution.


yeah, they only bring the good games out on ps3 oopsie.gif

but it's not the same as fallout 3 because it was only one small section, the drug bit that they took out, for lfd2 it's the violence stuff which is pretty much the whole game, I'd wonder if valve are going to bother


but that's a good question about online distribution, I'm not sure either.

I'd say it would apply because then that would be a pretty big loophole unsure.gif
future_dictator
well they seem to be focused on the dismemberment....

did these fuckers even play fallout 3? you shoot someone in the head and you see the eyes fly one way, the jaw another etc... so its retarded how something is ok in one game and not in another.
BozzA
QUOTE (future_dictator @ Sep 19 2009, 02:02 AM) *
well they seem to be focused on the dismemberment....

did these fuckers even play fallout 3? you shoot someone in the head and you see the eyes fly one way, the jaw another etc... so its retarded how something is ok in one game and not in another.

Pretty sure its mostly if the character still has life in it after its been dismembered. Ie, shoot off a zombies arm and it'll still come running at you etc, or if they crawl around on the ground. Im sure that was the reason SoF Payback was banned, you shoot off their limbs and they still crawl around before dying.


But you're right, they still dont have much consistency. Again going back on Fallout, pretty sure they even had to change the name of Morphine because they dont like it when drugs have a positive effect, yet think of all the WW2 games or even Half life's constantly uses morphine to give health to the player.


Or even look at the first and second Fallouts, you could kill kids, have sex, take drugs, blow apart anyone in the game and they both got through fine before all this hooha about games making kids shoot people.
Chris
I dont understand how its any different to movies, in fact i think movies are worse because you're seeing it happen to what appears to be a normal person.

But with video games, its just some nicely arranged pixels on the screen.
GLD-086
QUOTE (Chris @ Sep 19 2009, 01:13 PM) *
I dont understand how its any different to movies, in fact i think movies are worse because you're seeing it happen to what appears to be a normal person.

But with video games, its just some nicely arranged pixels on the screen.


Just watch any of the Saw films. I think it's bullshit that there isn't an R18+ rating for video games though.
Chris
QUOTE (GLD-086 @ Sep 19 2009, 03:51 PM) *
Just watch any of the Saw films. I think it's bullshit that there isn't an R18+ rating for video games though.

Exactly, real looking mutilation or computer generated video?
s13viper
yep its silly

they are no different (or in fact probably more tame than most movies)

an R18+ classification would solve the issue though

Needing 18+ ID to buy the game, problem solved
SR _S15
What the fuck that is retarded, there is 13 year olds going around bashing people and raping girls and they are worried about UNDER 18's?

Get a clue, bunch of religious old codgers that make this shit up.
Stuit
its all fricken michael atkinsons (the South Australian Attorney-General) fault, seriously. he is the only person opposing the introduction of an R18+ rating for videogames, and unfortunately just his single 'nay' vote is enough to stop it happening. its BS to be honest.
clutch-monkey
how the fuck do they figure this? how did gears of war get through...

also; how the fuck are they going to stop people playing it off steam.

that michael atkinson dude is going to get skull fucked. games don't make people violent, fuckwit politicians do
geespec
its a good game, kill all zombies!
Silver_GtiPirelli
lfd is awesome lan or online, Australia is becoming ridiculous
BozzA
Eh, edited version has been given the go ahead. They're still appealing the initial decision, if that takes too long to get a response from we'll get shipped the edited version and if their appeal is successful they'll patch it up to the world standard edition.

http://kotaku.com/5376731/looks-like-left-...ng-to-australia
RetardedMonkey
The edited version will be horribly shit.
GreekWarrior
wonder what they changed
Chris
Their will probably be a mod for more gore just after release anyway.
Damo
Full Report - http://www.ausgamers.com/images/features/0...sion_report.pdf

Ma15+ rating - http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,...5014239,00.html

Just buy it from overseas..
Chris
No dismemberment? What a joke, sounds awesome now that their are blades and blunt objects though.

Will the Steam version be the American version?
BozzA
Pretty sure Steam shows content based on your IP address, so it will be the censored version. Ive heard getting it gifted from an another countries account sends over the uncensored version of games, but tbh id just wait until its released and see what works, who knows how it will all work since most of the game will be played through online matchmaking etc.
Chris
QUOTE (BozzA @ Oct 11 2009, 11:44 AM) *
Pretty sure Steam shows content based on your IP address, so it will be the censored version. Ive heard getting it gifted from an another countries account sends over the uncensored version of games, but tbh id just wait until its released and see what works, who knows how it will all work since most of the game will be played through online matchmaking etc.

You could just use a American proxy.

But yeah, i wont touch it until someone susses it out.
Damo
Get someone you know overseas to buy it then send it to you..
scotty_222
yeah but then u cant use dlc on these games.. on psn or xbox live
Stuit
and the game will more than likely be region locked on the 360, and its not being released on the PS3.
Damo
i was refering to pc...fuck 360 and ps3
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