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MookieMadskillz
Hey i figured instead of buying a HD box i would just buy a whole new tv
but here is the catch.

It needs inputs for my pc, austar and an extra one.

It needs an out so i can plug it into my stereo also,

There than that anything above 40cms will do.

Im also buying a little ipod dock thing with speakers so maybe i can get a good deal on both.

So where should i go ?
cheers, mookie
Jaz_ej20
QUOTE (MookieMadskillz @ Sep 11 2009, 09:52 AM) *
Hey i figured instead of buying a HD box i would just buy a whole new tv
but here is the catch.

It needs inputs for my pc, austar and an extra one.

It needs an out so i can plug it into my stereo also,

There than that anything above 40cms will do.

Im also buying a little ipod dock thing with speakers so maybe i can get a good deal on both.

So where should i go ?
cheers, mookie



Try this: Click me! the Website isnt finished yet, But he is on facebook too under the page for independent electronics.

I have got an iphone and laptop off him. Its all legal.
AROGNT
holy shit thats cheap. seems too good to be true.
MookieMadskillz
hmm if he had paypal or something maybe
Nath-90
go in to jb, they wil do u a deal. Doesnt jake work there too?
grandmasterb
QUOTE (MookieMadskillz @ Sep 11 2009, 10:43 AM) *
hmm if he had paypal or something maybe


Its Eyeballz off NS cobber thumbsup.gif
CATKICKER
I have a screen coming... hopefully here today, I have SO many people waiting to see how it arrives and will place orders.
Jaz_ej20
QUOTE (MookieMadskillz @ Sep 11 2009, 10:43 AM) *
hmm if he had paypal or something maybe

He does have Paypal!
Jaz_ej20
QUOTE (CATKICKER @ Sep 11 2009, 11:16 AM) *
I have a screen coming... hopefully here today, I have SO many people waiting to see how it arrives and will place orders.


Apparently the stuff is at hobart port waiting for customs clearance on wednesday
MrMitsu
Surely its just the same as buying something from one of the Hong Kong stores on ebay?
Jaz_ej20
QUOTE (MrMitsu @ Sep 11 2009, 11:30 AM) *
Surely its just the same as buying something from one of the Hong Kong stores on ebay?



Probably, But he lives in this state and speaks proper english thumbsup.gif
delazy
QUOTE (AROGNT @ Sep 11 2009, 10:30 AM) *
holy shit thats cheap. seems too good to be true.

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the panasonic 50g10a is a classic example...brand new model...i sell at work with a rrp of $3199...dnt understand how it could be $1099...my only understanding is factory 2nds...my advice would be to contact integrated components/elmic electronics (both the local warranty repair agents for panasonic, samsung etc) and enquire into warranty status of the dealer smile.gif unless they are being provided with a 3rd party warranty rather than manufacturer

either way pending wat size and money you wanna spend...

panasonic's and samsungs seem the best buy lately...

depending on how much you wanna spend samsung la40b750 (full hd, 200hz, usb movie - divx/xvid from usb flash/ext hdd) - $1999 was $2999 only have a handful in stock

otherwise look at the panasonic x/s/g 32/37" models aswell as the samsung 32" 550/650 models...
CATKICKER
QUOTE (delazy @ Sep 11 2009, 11:44 AM) *
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the panasonic 50g10a is a classic example...brand new model...i sell at work with a rrp of $3199...dnt understand how it could be $1099

either way pending wat size and money you wanna spend...

panasonic's and samsungs seem the best buy lately...

depending on how much you wanna spend samsung la40b750 (full hd, 200hz, usb movie - divx/xvid from usb flash/ext hdd) - $1999 was $2999 only have a handful in stock

otherwise look at the panasonic x/s/g 32/37" models aswell as the samsung 32" 550/650 models...


Yeah, I got the Panasonic 50", can't go wrong for $700 thumbsup.gif ha ha
delazy
QUOTE (CATKICKER @ Sep 11 2009, 11:55 AM) *
Yeah, I got the Panasonic 50", can't go wrong for $700 thumbsup.gif ha ha


awesome tv if its the same spec at retailer ones thumbsup.gif

best of luck with it smile.gif
CATKICKER
Cheers,

I am thinking about getting a 65" for the shed just because they are so damn cheap! (already have a projector out there) ha ha
VU_SS_UTE
These - http://www.kogan.com.au/ guys are meant to be alright as well, I looked into them a while back for a 2nd TV
ecko
yeah im either going a kogan or a hisense
i have a hinsense now and got it back when tvs were 600 for the same type, the hisense was 280
had no troble whatso ever and the new ones have a 3 year in house replacment/repair warranty
Big_Car_Killa
QUOTE (delazy @ Sep 11 2009, 11:44 AM) *
thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif

the panasonic 50g10a is a classic example...brand new model...i sell at work with a rrp of $3199...dnt understand how it could be $1099...my only understanding is factory 2nds...my advice would be to contact integrated components/elmic electronics (both the local warranty repair agents for panasonic, samsung etc) and enquire into warranty status of the dealer smile.gif unless they are being provided with a 3rd party warranty rather than manufacturer

either way pending wat size and money you wanna spend...

panasonic's and samsungs seem the best buy lately...

depending on how much you wanna spend samsung la40b750 (full hd, 200hz, usb movie - divx/xvid from usb flash/ext hdd) - $1999 was $2999 only have a handful in stock

otherwise look at the panasonic x/s/g 32/37" models aswell as the samsung 32" 550/650 models...



As a consumer, im all for awesome prices, but as a bloke in the industry - be aware, there is no warranty for those tv's unless offered by the seller. Also, one thing you missed Lazy - TC-P50G10 whats wrong with this picture?? The "TC" series is an american panel. Therefore chances are the inbuilt set top box might not work. BUT it comes with the THX mode, of which is currently only available in the "V" series of panels.


Oh and Mook, plasma all the way mate. Technically and practically, its impossible for an LCD to display a picture as good as a plasma. thumbsup.gif
8700s14
QUOTE (Big_Car_Killa @ Sep 12 2009, 10:49 AM) *
As a consumer, im all for awesome prices, but as a bloke in the industry - be aware, there is no warranty for those tv's unless offered by the seller. Also, one thing you missed Lazy - TC-P50G10 whats wrong with this picture?? The "TC" series is an american panel. Therefore chances are the inbuilt set top box might not work. BUT it comes with the THX mode, of which is currently only available in the "V" series of panels.


Oh and Mook, plasma all the way mate. Technically and practically, its impossible for an LCD to display a picture as good as a plasma. thumbsup.gif



I don't know a great deal about teevees, but I was lead to beleive that current technology orders from best to worst; led, lcd, plasma....

What makes the plasma best?
MrMitsu
I prefer the look of Plasma over LCD....
MrMitsu
Well if some of you guys are buying new tv's, have any of you got something to sell? I'm looking at upgrading my 51cm CRT to something bigger like 68cm+.
delazy
QUOTE (8700s14 @ Sep 12 2009, 03:16 PM) *
I don't know a great deal about teevees, but I was lead to beleive that current technology orders from best to worst; led, lcd, plasma....

What makes the plasma best?


the every day argument between sales ppl, sales reps and the consumer lol

i was once a believe of LCD over Plasma...but seeing a top of the line Plasma alongside a top of the line LCD...the Plasma was a hands down winner...

picture quality will alway favour plasma simply from the larger contrast ratio available to a plasma panel and also the color definition/color range...even edge lit LED screens (samsung range and sony ZX1) atm cant compete with them...

LCD/LED on the other hand will offer you potentially lower running costs (although margin at best) and longer life span...while also being superior in a bright environment (plenty of day time viewing/bright lights)...

im sure paul will chirp in with much needed in depth information smile.gif which i look forward to hearing
ecko
LCD for gaming Plasma for sport and movies isnt it?
MrMitsu
CRT for gaming ftw tongue.gif
delazy
QUOTE (ecko @ Sep 12 2009, 06:13 PM) *
LCD for gaming Plasma for sport and movies isnt it?


one of the many rules floating around...reason LCD was preferred in previous years was because of screen burn with plasma...screen burn with plasma screens is near extinct these days...sooo...

ecko
hmm interesting..
So independant electronics dont have warranties?
delazy
QUOTE (Nath-90 @ Sep 11 2009, 10:51 AM) *
go in to jb, they wil do u a deal. Doesnt jake work there too?


why JB? lol..every electrical retailer in hobart will do you a deal..harveys, myer, retravision, betta electrical, sony centre..the joy of the industry which is rediculously competitive..
delazy
QUOTE (ecko @ Sep 12 2009, 06:28 PM) *
hmm interesting..
So independant electronics dont have warranties?


no1 said they didnt...but they did say that they dnt have a manufacturer backed warranty...so wat exactly does the warranty cover...parts? labour? replacement? onsite? etc?

the other thing is that digital tv transmissions are obviously recieved in a number of different types (pal/NTSC) and also different frequency ranges world wide...so a frequency range broadcast in Australia may differ quite alot to something broadcast in asia/europe/america/etc...

classic example is that an un-named new company released a HD set-top box onto the Australian market directly after buying in bulk and rebadging a product from china without realising that a particular region in australia was receiving a digital transmission outside of the range the unit was capable of...inturn an electrical retail (not myer) received over 500 units back within 2 days of purchase in a week period before removing them from the shelves completely
ecko
i dunno thats why im asking you? what warranty does he have?
delazy
QUOTE (ecko @ Sep 12 2009, 06:34 PM) *
i dunno thats why im asking you? what warranty does he have?


possibly a third party warranty which he provides via a third party agency, much like retailer extended warranty plans...

or which i think is more likely is that his providing a warranty from his supplier of which at those prices may/may not be around in 12 months...

meaning rather than being repaired locally at "official manufacture approved" service centers like elmic electronics or integrated components they require to be sent away to the supplier and more than likely the cost of the consumer
ecko
yeah im yet to test a extended warranty i always sel before the maufacturer's runs out.

Im probly going to buy something around 40-50 inch this week.. ill make sure to come see u lazy
delazy
QUOTE (ecko @ Sep 12 2009, 06:47 PM) *
yeah im yet to test a extended warranty i always sel before the maufacturer's runs out.

Im probly going to buy something around 40-50 inch this week.. ill make sure to come see u lazy


quite a big spread in sizes..

plasma - panasonic thp42g10a
LCD - samsung la40b650

look into these two models...money wise and feature wise definately the two picks for me...personally dnt think many ppl NEED a tv bigger than 40"...anything bigger shows any picture distortion alot more so...which i hate
MookieMadskillz
i need something to display my films on at trade shows etc so the plasma will look good.
delazy
QUOTE (MookieMadskillz @ Sep 12 2009, 07:33 PM) *
i need something to display my films on at trade shows etc so the plasma will look good.


lol, wtf, trade shows? films? haha

need a full hd production camera aswell? lol
MrMitsu
Need a handsome guy with lots of man hair?
delazy

QUOTE
The two questions we get asked the most is "Is it legal?" and "why are your prices so damn cheap compared to others?" these are completely valid questions and here are the answers.

Retail stores buy from wholesalers, wholesalers buy from factorys. retail stores have HUGE over heads, things like salarys for 30 odd people, rents, advertising and a whole range of other things.

What we do is, we buy direct from the factory that made the product, and then we sell the product. that simple. little to no overheads, 2 salarys, and we completly cut the costs from buying from a middle man. Allowing us to sell at a Wholesale price!


lol, last i saw i recieved my stock direct from panasonic, sony, samsung etc lol

but overheads certainly arent factord into the price of consumer electronics atm, simply due to the competitive market atm...businesses like harveys, jb, myer rely on other items to produce GP and in turn cover the overheads
PANDA
Well I was always for LCD very anti plasma BUT in saying that I bought a current generation plasma as current LCDs unless you spend the big bucks aren't worth it image wise.

I ended up with a Panasonic PLasma the only issue I find is its noisy. Very much a plasma issue tho also depends on how close you sit to it...im on the cusp of being to close in our loungeroom though lol
Big_Car_Killa
QUOTE (delazy @ Sep 12 2009, 06:24 PM) *
one of the many rules floating around...reason LCD was preferred in previous years was because of screen burn with plasma...screen burn with plasma screens is near extinct these days...sooo...


The Lazy man is right.

WAS a big issue, not so now. CNET had a Panasonic panel on for 8hrs with a static image. After playing a full-screen image for a few mins, they switched to a black screen with 100% NO signs of burn in. You MIGHT get residual ghosting, but it doesnt stay on the screen.

Panasonic advertise "Best for Gaming, Movies and Sport" and they live up to it. With HDMI lag below 30ms, there is bugger-all out there that that can match it.

QUOTE (MookieMadskillz @ Sep 12 2009, 07:33 PM) *
i need something to display my films on at trade shows etc so the plasma will look good.


Just came back from a trade show, and yes, plasma's do look good as long as the contrast is cranked-up a bit to give it some more brightness (or put it in "Dynamic mode").



FYI: LCD's are and forever will be 10 bit panels (=amount of displayable colours.) The more colours, the better. Provides more life-like pictures with depth. While plasma panels can process (and display) up to 18 bits of colours = LCD is forever limited.

Also, LCD's CAN NOT provide the same amount of moving picture resolution as Plasma. (LCD=600 lines vs. Plasma=1080) Which is also proof that the number of hertz on LCD doesnt mean a whole heap when compared against plasma.






And Lazy: Edge lit panels have poor viewing angles, and the dynamic backlight dimming means in a scene where a comet flies across the screen, you will see the stars in the night sky. When the comet leaves the screen, the backlight will dim, making the stars invisible. - Super flawed.
PANDA
Yep I can say that the panasonic plasma is GREAT for gaming. TUX-247 will attest to this as he spent 4hrs today killing zombies at my place and kept saying how good the screen was smile.gif
8700s14
So plasmas don't typically have poor refresh rates that make the picture on fast moving pictures look a bit blurry?

I probably got suckered in lol, but I recently got a Bravia KDL40ZX1, it had the clearest picture of all the teevees on display so I got it. Are there ultra-premium plasmas? All the plasmas I ever see tend to be really cheap, generally I assosciate cheap with crap lol....
PANDA
Pick a tv that YOU like go and watch them all. Like I said before I hated plasmas their picture quality imho WAS shit BUT have come a long way. Its also confusing when it comes to refresh rates etc etc because Plasma and LCD are totally different technologies and you see on sony's etc 200 and 100hz technology then you see 600hz sub field tech on plasma's etc it makes no sense till its explained and most salespeople dont have a clue to be totally honest(In all fairness they get told what to say they arent technicians). Do your searching on the net check out the TV's that Fit your price bracket and watch the TV because what looks good to one person may not suit the next.

My job is is to do with Colour matching and Image creation I am VERY picky with Image Quality and I chose plasma after hating them for
years lol

If you liked the Bravia the best then you made the right decision.
delazy
QUOTE (8700s14 @ Sep 12 2009, 09:47 PM) *
So plasmas don't typically have poor refresh rates that make the picture on fast moving pictures look a bit blurry?

I probably got suckered in lol, but I recently got a Bravia KDL40ZX1, it had the clearest picture of all the teevees on display so I got it. Are there ultra-premium plasmas? All the plasmas I ever see tend to be really cheap, generally I assosciate cheap with crap lol....


lol...yes u certainly got sucked in, especially to buy that thing...i didnt even bother ordering stock or even a display model into the myer hobart store after seeing it in person and hearing reports from other sales members elsewhere...

premium models such as the panasonic v series and the samsung 8 series are the ones to look at in the plasma market, but at the same time are only 50" models...

but as panda said...personal preference sells a TV...shut out wat the sales person is telling you...look into the price bracket your looking at and do the research before hand...

"some" sales ppl will take you to town and will sell you the products with more mark up/margin in turn putting more commission in there own pockets...high end cables for 99% of customers is a joke...i run a $40 budget spec cable on my ps3 and have tested a $300 cable to see absolutely no difference...

classic example of this is an elderly couple i had come into the store recently wanting me to match a quote of another retailer...when i saw the quote was a samsung 46" series 8 LED, blu-ray home theatre and then high end cables i was quite suprised considering they had mentioned they only wanted to watch tv...they left the store with a 2k 37" lcd and were rediculously pleased they didnt get sucked in elsewhere...
PANDA
High end cables for Digital(not analog) equipment is a joke honestly and that's coming from me who has spent $1500 on speaker and RCA cables tongue.gif lol my bookshelf speakers are still worth more than my 42" plasma but hey that's a different story lol
harolto
jaycar had hdmi cables for $10 or 3 for $25, might be worth checking them out biggrin.gif
Big_Car_Killa
QUOTE (8700s14 @ Sep 12 2009, 09:47 PM) *
So plasmas don't typically have poor refresh rates that make the picture on fast moving pictures look a bit blurry?

I probably got suckered in lol, but I recently got a Bravia KDL40ZX1, it had the clearest picture of all the teevees on display so I got it. Are there ultra-premium plasmas? All the plasmas I ever see tend to be really cheap, generally I assosciate cheap with crap lol....



Plasma's work almost at the speed of light, thats why pubs use them for sport etc. Speed for a moving image never was, nor will be a problem for plasma's to display. (See moving picture resolution comment im my previous post)

600hz= in a 50hz image, each frame is made up of 12 pieces, or subfeilds. x50=600.

At the end of the day, you got a reliable product that does what you want it to do. If your happy with the picture, dont worry about the comments by others. thumbsup.gif


QUOTE (harolto @ Sep 13 2009, 01:47 AM) *
jaycar had hdmi cables for $10 or 3 for $25, might be worth checking them out biggrin.gif


And they work fine. If in doubt, spend the extra and go for the slightly more expensive cables.
therubberband
The 40zx1 is a deceiving piece of equipment. The panel is 1080p, the receiver is 1080p, yet the receiver only sends to the panel in 1080i. Not that many people will pick the difference but it is very sneaky of Sony to not make it more clear. And for the price of it too. But it still produces a reasonable picture.
Big_Car_Killa
I disagree. Compare it to ANY other 40" in existence and you'll see thats not true (in regards to picture quality). Hell, i even have an article here from appliance retailer where the Aus CEO of Sony states himself that the ZX1 was never intended to produce a good picture at all:

"We have our XBR series for that. . ."

the ZX1 was built for aesthetics alone.
scrim
Has anyone bought and received anything from independent electronics?
therubberband
QUOTE (Big_Car_Killa @ Sep 13 2009, 01:20 PM) *
I disagree. Compare it to ANY other 40" in existence and you'll see thats not true (in regards to picture quality). Hell, i even have an article here from appliance retailer where the Aus CEO of Sony states himself that the ZX1 was never intended to produce a good picture at all:

"We have our XBR series for that. . ."

the ZX1 was built for aesthetics alone.



I didnt say the 40zx1 was a great tv, it certainly isnt. the best lcd at the moment in my opinion is either the 46xbr or the series 8 sammy LED. Like i say to customers, it is all preference. Plasma wise, i like the previous model panasonics MUCH more than the current s or g series. the pz800 and pz850 were a far smoother tv. But as i said its all what each of us likes.
delazy
QUOTE (therubberband @ Sep 19 2009, 07:26 PM) *
I didnt say the 40zx1 was a great tv, it certainly isnt. the best lcd at the moment in my opinion is either the 46xbr or the series 8 sammy LED. Like i say to customers, it is all preference. Plasma wise, i like the previous model panasonics MUCH more than the current s or g series. the pz800 and pz850 were a far smoother tv. But as i said its all what each of us likes.


46XBR is no longer available anyways wink.gif

series 8 samsung leds' arent all that special either....the series 8 plasma smashes it as far as picture quality goes....personally i think it looks better aswell....

samsung series 8 plasma and panasonic V series plasma...possibly the best 2 screens on the market presently in my opinion...
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