Big Kart Track, at Landsborough. Its about 30 minutes from my house! And its massive with a great surface and plenty of room...
How did Option 1 get the drifting running at Archy? Would be a buzz to have something similar for those on the north side of brizzy and up to the sunny coast. Also, a track that takes longer than 30 seconds to do a lap. 1.2km, 8m wide, plenty of run-off space...
I think its owned by Kingston Park Raceway...?

enquire about it mate ask around gain some support and come up with a buisness proposition for why they should let you and what there gonna get out of it maybe contact option one and see if they would be interested in including it into there supercheap auto drift series ?

it's been ages since i've been there
but isn't a lot of it just too tight? idk should definately check it out

cause it would be TOO GOOD haha another track ..............

Its nowhere NEAR as tight as archy is... its a much larger track, so a lot less repetition of the same set of corners etc. I might PM option1 and see what they reckon.

wow really? could be epic then

could be interesting could be keen if this gets up and goin
keep us posted mate

i remember racing there, plenty of room.

that back sweeping hair pin is great to fly round, kinda up hill and off camber on entry, dunno how that affects drifting in reality but u could slide the kart real easy



definatly talk to the owners, give them a written business proposal about costs, insurance, facilties, way to make money etc

talk to possible sponsors, especially the sunny coast shops and redcliffe shops, get there name out there.

u just gotta provide a positive oportunity for prospectve companies, be it finanical gain or advertisting etc

Ive PM'd Option1. Im no businessman, i just know from driving the track in a kart that it could be a great venue on like a tuesday night or something. Bit of interest in this thread probably wouldnt go astray.
Its more open than Archy, but not as open as QR by a long shot.
I can just visualise coming out of the hairpin and picking up speed drifting around that first big left hander - would be awesome.

yeah man that's an awesome track, gl with it

I'm fully behind you on this one Rob. If there's anything I can do, give me a yell.

You have to look at a logistics side of things as well.

Who's going to want to travel to Landsborough to drift?

It's almost 1 1/2 hours from Brisbane, 2 1/2 hours from the Gold Coast.

If you break your shit, thats a big distance to have to tow home/pay for towing.

It wouldn't be viable as a fortnightly event, you would probably have to look at it as a bi monthly event to make it worthwhile for people to attend.

A mid week night would not bring in the crowds, you would have to look at a Fri/Sat/Sun option and then, it would probably have to be under lights so as not to affect the day to day working of the cart track.

Not trying to shoot your idea down, but you need to keep know all options good and bad for your idea.

Another place for drifters certainly won't hurt.

i'd go
is closer than archy and qr.

pretty sure it is just as tight as archy though.

its not 1.5 hours from brsibane mate.... im less than that on a good day at noosa, and its about 30-45 mins closer to brisbane than me.

"Who's going to want to travel to Landsborough to drift?"
There are ALOT of drivers north of yourself who skid. What makes you think drifting in QLD is confined to Brisbane and the Gold Coast???

"If you break your shit, thats a big distance to have to tow home/pay for towing."
The same applies for drivers up this way who make the trek to Archie/QR. Our cars don't just majically teleport themselves home.

Its a great idea. Go for it.

maybe they might want to use it for their go karts!!!!!!!!
seriously this place makes too much money to be worrying about drifters using there track.
they'd be losing money while the drifters circle the track rather than their hire karts.

hmmmmm i really think its good idea man looks to be a good track for it and maybe if it all happens option 1 could have there comps at archy and there ???but see what they say they will probley hear the word drift and think no

drift karts ftw..

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It takes damn near 40 mins from the centre of Brisbane just to reach Caboolture now.

1 1/2 hours isn't out of question towing a trailer.



Knew there would be at least one.

Where do you think the majority of drifters are based champ?

You would need the majority of drifters to even bother making it worthwhile for the site to consider closing the go kart track to the public, who wants to run at a loss just to appease some people who want to drift?

Drifters are tight arses for the most part, its part of what makes it attractive to average Joe, the ability to do a form of motorsport for not a lot of outlay.

Start factoring in 2 1/2 hour drives, increased cost of fuel, entry fee's etc etc etc and it all starts becoming a bit too much.

Then you still have to work out what times you are going to run the event, perhaps refer to my comments above.

Then you have your insurance, track safety/repair, marshal's, advertising, track hire etc etc etc.

It's not just a case of rock up and run it............

HSV relax. its no going to be INSTEAD of Archy or QR.
There are a lot of drivers up here, myself included. as it stands, i have to tow my car through peak hour traffic to get to archy. I wouldnt expect people from southside to drive up here to go to it. Just saying it owuld be a good idea for everyone from say chermside to noosa etc to go to.
As said, im no businessman or event organiser, i passed the idea straight on to those who may be able to look into it, if indeed they havent already.
Its not always about majorities, champ. No need to start being smart.
Im sure if it can be done, it will be. We all know you walk with a big stick, HSV (fantastic and original username, btw) but how about you think of those who ARENT you, and live on the north side of brisbane?
You wouldnt have any clue how many there are - cos theres no place for them to go! Of course the majority is southside - cos they have a track they can go to!
I think that the first stop would be to get signatures of all those who would GENUINELY turn up with tracks cars, along with how often they would want to turn up, as well as those who would turn up to watch, and how often they would turn up. Run the pricing the same as Archy, and trial it like the first tuesday of every month or whatever (just cos archy is on wednesday) and see how it goes. The track would obviously have its own current level of insurance being a public motorsport venue (they do race privateer karts there etc) but whether that may or may not need to be modified i would not know. They do have nights and do already do some night events with karts, so night drifts wouldnt be a problem, meaning it could be done in quieter times.
I figure if people can rock up with there race karts on trailers, then thre arent that many fundamental differences. The karts probably go faster and are more dangerous haha...
Its a matter of whether it would bring in enough participants/spectators to make it financially viable, and whether Kingston park would allow it at there venue. Surely the idea could be put forth, using Archy's takings and running costs as a guide. Could EASILY run more cars at BKT. It could really open up drifting on the Northside, cos lets face it, we got NOTHING up here.

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I think its a good idea but i can't see them doing it. To get the turn out required to raise a decent amount of money would have to be on a weekend and they are already open till 10pm on fridays and saturdays for night races.

Never know though, someone is going to have to do their homework and figure it all out then present it to them. I'd try for every 4th thursday night maybe 7-10 or something??

Wow, I actually read it all! Well said, might I add. I would definatly show up, but not as often as I do Archy, since I live next door.

Elaborate please?

+1 for HSV's comments

that would be good track to drift on !!! i live near archy its easier for me !! but think lil_bobby_260 should go ask and see if they well agree to it.... its more money for them !!!

the karts slide so easy in the dry on that track, and in the wet its just nuts, you can pretty much link all the twisty's and keep the slides going along the straight haha. would be good fun in a car!

i swear that track is too thin for drifting, i know motorbikes organise days where they have sessions on that track and a bunch of them go over and have little races and practice there skills on it

hsv wouldn't no what peak hour is if it hit him in the face,, like most of the wanker's on here ,,, another drift track thaT WOULD be awsome !!

Not really fussed if it was champ. But keep in mind you can overkill events by having too many of them, too close to each other.



Well it is actually. The kart track is a business, same in effect as what QR/Archy is. People bring money in. GOOD drivers bring more people to events. Whilst I am sure you have a good share of decent drivers up there, common well known names will bring more money to an event, its that simple. The track isn't a charity, they are a business and as such are going to want to see PROFIT for as little involvement as possible.



Unsure as to why you would bother referencing my username, I've had it well before this version of the forum was around (pre 02), have owned a number of HSV's (last one being stolen couple months ago) so I fail to see what sort of reference you are trying to make there.



Since when does track location have anything to do with how many people are interested in that sport? Your right though, I wouldn't know much about this shit, I only helped get Stadium Drift off the ground both here and interstate, helped DriftZone back in the day, helped QR out too many times to remember etc etc. Hell we used to travel to drift quite regularly, Warwick, Interstate, Tamworth etc etc. But times have changed now, fuel is more expensive, rego is more expensive, hell almost everything is more expensive. Refer to my previous statement about drifters being tight asses, sponsorship takes some of that pain away, but not much.



Funny, I could of sworn that was what I was saying the entire time for BOTH the venue and drivers...........

Yes its expensive - which is why a closer track for everyone north of brisbane, would help. even once a month.

8 metres wide - its wider than archy and we drift that without too much trouble.

hsv your name is hsv go do skids in boganhill!!! lil bobby good on you for trying to set up things for people up your way hsv your not doing the work so why dont you just shut up and let bobby find out if they can or not....

Ahah, say hello to mod review.

Neck up you fuckwit.

Typical fuckwit know it all wants to try and butt in.

Adults are talking here, fuck off to your naughty corner you drip.

HSV is not saying its a bad idea, he's just saying you have to look at it realistically in terms of sustainable profit and attendance.

Look at the top Stadium drift and Archerfield drivers the majority of them are Brisbane/GC based. These guys go to events and bring along crowd attendance because people want to see decent drifting action, thus venue operators can charge an admittance price and make a profit.

Now if you only bring 5 - 10 of your friends; who aren't recognized drivers to have a practice up in Landsborough will the operators be willing to shut down the track to allow you to run on it and if they do how much would they need to charge you to cover costs ?

To be honest there are a lot of drift tracks currently and I remember the days when we where pumped just to go out to Lakeside to see drifting back when SR20 club held QLD's first drift days, these only occurred about once a quarter, then there was the bi monthly events out at QR organized by Driftzone/Cybertech which really kicked started things

Now these days you can practice drift almost once every fortnight, so HSV's question of over supplying the sport with venues is also valid.

It's great your enthusiastic about drifting, but wanting something and not looking at the bigger picture surrounding it before hand can make you realize why someone hasn't tried the idea before.

i think its a great idea hope there's something for northsiders and sunnycoasters soon.
even lakeside would be good but wont happen with thier noise restrictions
i know there is alot of intersest in drift up this way and its a fast growing sport so im sure it would be just as big up here in no time.

yeh but the reason the drifters that go to archy and qr are all from around the area im sure if there was a track out that way there would be peopple around the area that would want to do it aswell if you build it they will come

That venue has been approached on MANY occasions regarding drifting in many different formats and levels, all of which have been given the "We are NOT interested in allowing drift in our facility."

End of story. If the owners don't want it......it will NOT happen.

Stop making sense!

haha im not doing any work - the extent of my involvment was to ask option1 if they had been approached. im no event organiser so theres no point carrying on to me about pros and cons - my statement was simple. it would be sweet to have a local track to save a 3hr round trip with a car on a trailer. that is all. lets not get all upset.
If they dont want to have it run there, then oh well. bit of a bummer. im sure there are a lot of people who would turn up and have a go at drifting, or get more serious with there drifting for those who already participate, if there were a venue for them up here.
I dont see how it would be oversupplying - the two venues are a 2hr drive from each other, before you even take traffic into account. Lot of guys in hot RWD imports up here that im sure would have a go, but arent interested in the 2+hr trip each way from the sunny coast.
Ive got nothing to do with profitability and attendence, but i do know how it works, its simple math. All i did was ask the question.

was only thinking of this not so long ago, as i do live 5mins down the road from there lol. GOODLUCK WITH IT

fook yeah, i live in beerwah!
i'll put my name onto any partition

I would go, and so would alot of others up here.

Im sure you southerners can suck it up and travel up if you are really interested.
Besides we travel down to QR, so surely it can't be that hard to drive up here.
I can see it being spectator friendly. They have a HUGE deck overlooking the whole track. And who knows, maybe they can turn that kart shed into a pit?

OT, a mate of mine reckons he knows why the owner doesn't want this to happen. "HE" said that there is only 1 layer of bitumen, and it wont support a car, BS?..... maybe.



Anyway someone should make up a petition type of thing

what happend with this did it just die down

i had no idea this thread existed. I've thought it of before. Going up to QR and archy does suck for sunny coasters. I know the possibility of the admin at the kart track allowing a drift night there is very very low, but its worth a try. Theres alot of drifters on the sunny coast. this thread needs to be advertised alot more, have a look at SD theres alot of drifters there from the sunny coast. Who needs spectators anyway? just get enough drifters to hit this up, i know alot of sunny coast lads would be very keen. A good way to get it off the streets aswell

One thing to remember is that us drifters destroy tracks. If big cart track isnt atlest 4 inches deep or so, and have good track edges (no exposed bitchumen), theres no way they will let us drive there.

Also, id be surprised if Ian from raceline hasnt already approached them

Ill be one of the first to hit it up if it happens though!!!

^End of story.

My bad, i dont read threads unless im watching it. to lazy!

Same