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Damo
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Microsoft has confirmed its new Windows 7 operating system will be generally available on October 22, well ahead of its original schedule and in time for the holiday shopping season.


http://www.itnews.com.au/News/104738,micro...october-22.aspx
.Woody.
Cool, should be somewhat decent. Have been running Windows 7 RC since it got released. And it is such a massive improvement on Vista for sure. I don't mind it at all.
RusH_
might be a nice step over Vista straight from XP
ThaitaniumXI
Installed RC on my old 1.1ghz comp for my dad, he loves it. Ill stick to Vista 64 til they release the RTM
DreamensioN
Windows 7 gets released on Technet in the 2nd half of July.

General availability refers to when anybody off the street can walk into a shop and buy it.
biff_on
i hate windows 7 well the beta anyway hardly any support so far for games that i can see...
Autech_Ess15
What's upgrading from vista going to be like?

I have vista ultimate x64 running at the moment, I'll more than likely purchase windows 7 and upgrade.
DreamensioN
With Windows 7, I wouldn't "upgrade" Vista. Its best to do a full reinstall. When you upgrade, you also upgrade the problems of the previous OS.
Autech_Ess15
QUOTE (DreamensioN @ Jul 3 2009, 06:19 PM) *
With Windows 7, I wouldn't "upgrade" Vista. Its best to do a full reinstall. When you upgrade, you also upgrade the problems of the previous OS.


Good point.

I hate backups and restores though angry.gif

DreamensioN
QUOTE (Autech_Ess15 @ Jul 4 2009, 11:26 AM) *
Good point.

I hate backups and restores though angry.gif


Use the Windows Easy Transfer Wizard. Its a consumer version of USMT (User State Migration Tool).

Basically, on your Vista machine, run the wizard and pick all your settings you want to transfer. My Documents, My Music, Favourites - you can pick anything you want. Pick a destination to save to (another partition/drive, or an external drive) - and it'll create a single flat file, with all your "profile" settings in it.

Blow the OS away, and install Windows 7.

In Windows 7 - again, run the Windows Easy Transfer Wizard, and do a restore. Choose the file you created from the Vista machine, and it'll restore all your settings (wallpaper, favourites, documents, the way you had your views in Explorer setup, etc).

Its the easiest way to keep all your personalised settings.
DreamensioN
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I’d like to offer up a little insight into the “Release to Manufacturing” (RTM) for Windows 7.

Over the past week, there have been many rumors surrounding RTM.

We are close, but have not yet signed off on Windows 7. When we RTM you will most certainly hear it here. As we’ve said all along, we will RTM Windows 7 when it’s ready. As previously stated, we expect Windows 7 to RTM in the 2nd half of July.

Windows 7 will be available in many languages from around the world. For us to consider RTM “done”, it requires that all languages be completely finished. So there is a lot of work that needs to take place for us to finalize all languages of Windows 7. We also need to get to a point of “global readiness” with our partners. Our partners being ready for Windows 7 is extremely important to RTM. As Steven Sinofsky mentions in this blog post in May, RTM isn’t a single point in time. It’s the beginning of the next “process” for Windows 7. At RTM our partners begin their final preparations for Windows 7, including testing and building images for new PCs. RTM is essentially the final “stage” of engineering for Windows 7 before it hits the market at General Availability (GA). As Steven notes, engineering continues on Windows 7 from RTM until GA on October 22nd.

Another thing to keep in mind is that when we do a specific build internally of Windows 7 we have an extensive step-by-step validation process to ensure quality. This process takes time. Just because a single build may have “leaked” it does not signal the completion of a milestone such as RTM. As always, don’t believe everything that you read on the Internet - except this post ;-).

Everyone is super excited about this version of Windows. I continue to get a ton of questions about some of the things that happen after we RTM. I would like to answer some of those questions:

Once Windows 7 is complete, how do I get it?
The answer depends on who you are:
• MSDN & TechNet Subscribers: Subscribers will be able to download the final version of Windows 7 a few weeks after we announce RTM.
• Volume License (VL) Customers: Customers with Software Assurance for Windows will be able to download the final version of Windows 7 Enterprise a few weeks after we announce RTM. As announced today by Bill Veghte during his WPC09 keynote, customers without Software Assurance will be able to purchase Windows 7 through Volume Licensing on September 1st.
• Consumers, Enthusiasts, & Beta Testers (Everyone else): The retail version of Windows 7 will be available in stores October 22nd. If you pre-ordered Windows 7, it should be delivered sometime around the October 22nd timeframe (depends on the retailer). You can pre-order Windows 7 today through many online retailers like the Microsoft Store.
• On New PCs: OEMs are expected to start shipping new PCs with Windows 7 pre-installed on them around October 22nd.

Can I continue to use the Windows 7 Release Candidate (RC) until I receive the RTM version?
Yes, you can continue to use the RC until it expires on June 1st, 2010 (expiration starts March 1, 2010 – this is when the reboots start – final expiration on June 1). Please note that “in-place” (or direct) upgrades from the Windows 7 RC to RTM will not be supported. You will be required to do a Custom installation (aka “clean install”).

I am a TechNet or MSDN subscriber. Will I get a product key?
MSDN and TechNet subscribers, as well as Volume License customers will have access to product keys (PIDs) when Windows 7 is made available to them. Product keys for Windows 7 RTM will be different than the product keys used for Windows 7 Beta and the release candidate. Windows 7 Beta or RC product keys *will not* work with Windows 7 RTM.

I am using one of the so-called “leaked” builds of Windows 7, how will I know if it is the real deal?
As always, beware of what you download. There are many bogus copies of Windows 7 floating around the Internet. More often than not, they contain a rather nice malware payload. And don’t believe everything you read on the Internet. When Windows 7 hits RTM, it will be announced here. Until that happens, any builds you are likely to see on the web are either not the final bits or are laced with malicious code.

How do I get a 64-bit copy of Windows 7?
The Upgrade and Full packaged retail product of Windows 7 Home Premium, Windows 7 Professional, and Windows 7 Ultimate will come with both 32-bit and 64-bit DVDs. With Windows Vista, the 64-bit version was only available with Windows Vista Ultimate. Due to the incredible adoption of 64-bit today and customer feedback, we decided to change this for Windows 7. Now all copies of Windows 7 in developed markets will ship with both 32-bit and 64-bit DVDs.

I want to emphasize that delivering Windows 7 at the highest quality possible is the biggest criteria we have for hitting RTM. Our top focus is a super high quality release of Windows first and foremost.

Thanks, and check back soon for more Windows 7 news.
Still have questions about Windows 7? Leave your questions below as I have several colleagues here in Redmond waiting to answer any question Windows 7 related you might have.

UPDATE 7/14: Updated information for Volume Licensing.
DreamensioN
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When will I get Windows 7 RTM?
I recognize this is an important question to have answered. Many of you have said you want to know exactly when you will be able to get your hands on RTM. Last Monday, I gave an update on RTM to close out some myths. In that update, I also gave a broad timeline on when different groups of people – or “audiences” – would get the final RTM code.

While I have nothing new to add regarding RTM today, I do however have more precise information to give on when you will be able to get RTM. Again, when you can get RTM depends on who you are.

For Partners & OEMs:
ISV (Independent software vendor) and IHV (Independent hardware vendor) Partners will be able to download Windows 7 RTM from Microsoft Connect or MSDN on August 6th. There is already a lot of momentum from ISVs and IHVs in the ecosystem today for Windows 7 as Mike Nash blogged last week. If you are a partner who has been working on Windows 7 for a while, now is the time to complete your testing with final version of Windows 7. For partners that haven’t gotten started yet with Windows 7, now is the time to get involved. You can also visit www.readyset7.com to learn more about getting ready for Windows 7.

Microsoft Partner Program Gold/Certified Members will be able to download Windows 7 RTM in English through the Microsoft Partner Network (MPN) Portal on August 16th. By October 1st, the remaining languages will become available to download.

Microsoft Action Pack Subscribers will be about to download Windows 7 RTM in English starting August 23rd. By October 1st, the remaining languages will become available to download.
OEMs will receive Windows 7 RTM software images beginning approximately 2 days after we officially RTM, as a little time is required to release and distribute these images. This will allow them to begin preparing images for new PCs to ship with Windows 7 on them. We know our OEMs are excited for Windows 7 and we can’t wait to hand them the final RTM bits!

For Business Customers:
If you are a Volume License (VL) customer with an existing Software Assurance (SA) license you will be able to download Windows 7 RTM in English starting August 7th via the Volume License Service Center (VLSC). The rest of the languages for Windows 7 RTM should be available within a couple of weeks after that.

Volume License customers without a SA license will be able to purchase Windows 7 through Volume Licensing on September 1st as we announced last week at WPC09. Mark these dates on your calendar and start making your deployment plans!

For IT Professionals:
There are a few ways you can get Windows 7 RTM. IT Professionals with TechNet Subscriptions will be able to download Windows 7 RTM in English on August 6th and remaining languages by October 1st.

IT Professionals at companies with Volume Licensing see above on how you can get Windows 7 RTM.

We have quite a bit of resources for IT Professionals to use to become experts on Windows 7 and to aid in their deployments. Those resources can be found at the Springboard Series.

For Developers:
Developers with MSDN Subscriptions will be able to download Windows 7 RTM in English on August 6th and remaining languages by October 1st.

To help developers who are developing applications for Windows 7 or updating existing applications to take advantage of new Windows 7 features, check out the Windows 7 for Developers Blog. Also, be sure to check out the Windows 7 Developers Guide on MSDN. Oh and there are also some fantastic videos on Channel 9 too!

For Beta Testers & Enthusiasts:

A special thank you to our beta testers is needed for their time and effort in helping make Windows 7 a solid release. The special pre-order offer we did offering Windows 7 Home Premium and Windows 7 Professional at almost 50% discount was done with our beta testers in mind. And many of you jumped at the chance to take advantage of this deal – thank you!

I know there have been some rumors going around about a “family pack” for Windows 7. We have heard a lot of feedback from beta testers and enthusiasts over the last 3 years that we need a better solution for homes with multiple PCs. I’m happy to confirm that we will indeed be offering a family pack of Windows 7 Home Premium (in select markets) which will allow installation on up to 3 PCs. As I’ve said before, stay tuned to our blog for more information on this and any other potential offers.

Beta testers will not automatically receive a free copy of Windows 7. Many beta testers are already subscribers to TechNet; those of you who fit that description will be able to download Windows 7 RTM shortly after RTM happens for free as part of your subscription.

However, if you don’t have TechNet and are waiting for GA (to either purchase Windows 7 or wait for your pre-order to arrive) you can continue to use the RC. In fact, you can continue to use it until it expires on June 1st, 2010 (expiration actually starts March 1, 2010, this is when the reboots start).

While our special pre-order offer with the near 50% has ended, Windows 7 can still be pre-ordered today from the various online retailers (including the Microsoft Store).

We are also going to release an evaluation of Windows 7 Professional for IT Professionals via the Springboard Series shortly after RTM. Over 40% of beta testers are IT Professionals and this will allow them to quickly access the RTM code and plan for deployments.

For Consumers:
Windows 7 will be in retail stores and shipping on new PCs starting October 22nd. If you pre-ordered Windows 7, it should be delivered sometime around the October 22nd timeframe (depends on the retailer).
the red krawler
Im really enjoying Win7, especially after the disaster that was Vista (my HDD corrupted 3 times in as many months, with the directory "Application Data" ending up recurring forever so you end up with ...\Application Data\Application Data\Application Data\Application Data\Application Data\Application Data\Application Data\Application Data\Application Data\Application Data\(etc) twice)

And the best bit? My HD4870 works perfectly with the Win7 drivers! Not a single crash since installation! I piss-farted around with drivers for ages on Vista32 and 64 trying to get the damn thing working.

I love you, Win7. Marry me.
DreamensioN
Agreed. Vista was released into the world prematurly like a 6 month old fetus. Windows 7 is what vista should have been.

This is a video from 2002 of what Vista was expected to turn out like - as you can see, Vista never looked like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW4967JxI3A...feature=related

However.....is it just me, or is that closer to what Windows 7 is?
cleatus02
IMO 7 shits on vista, havn't had any problems with software or hardware and all games seem to run as good, if not better than on Vista. And with the back up thing, just go buy a second hard drive, 250gig, $50, put eveything on it you want to keep and nuke the rest, you wont miss most stuff.
DreamensioN
Windows 7 full full full is now on technet.

Am getting Windows 7 Ultimate right now - I'll have Professional & Enterprise versions by this afternoon. yeah yeah.
TUN35
QUOTE (DreamensioN @ Aug 7 2009, 01:05 PM) *
Windows 7 full full full is now on technet.

Am getting Windows 7 Ultimate right now - I'll have Professional & Enterprise versions by this afternoon. yeah yeah.


Pfft slow! Already gotten and installing tongue.gif
TUN35
QUOTE (the red krawler @ Jul 22 2009, 11:13 PM) *
Im really enjoying Win7, especially after the disaster that was Vista (my HDD corrupted 3 times in as many months, with the directory "Application Data" ending up recurring forever so you end up with ...\Application Data\Application Data\Application Data\Application Data\Application Data\Application Data\Application Data\Application Data\Application Data\Application Data\(etc) twice)

And the best bit? My HD4870 works perfectly with the Win7 drivers! Not a single crash since installation! I piss-farted around with drivers for ages on Vista32 and 64 trying to get the damn thing working.

I love you, Win7. Marry me.


ps. Never thought I'd see the day when you'd endorse a Microshit product!
the red krawler
QUOTE (TUN35 @ Aug 7 2009, 01:14 PM) *
ps. Never thought I'd see the day when you'd endorse a Microshit product!


I liked 98SE, XP, and like Win7.

I dislike ME, 2k, 95, 98FE and Vista.

Linux has its place, but imo that place is for servers, embedded devices and underpowered desktops that are only going to be used for email and browsing etc.

Its far too much of a pain in the arse to get a Linux box doing games and word processing to a level that meets the Office standards. Open Office really is a bit crap sad.gif
My_ToyMota
been using versions of windows 7 since the start of the year. have not had one problem with it, error report sending was great with the first few versions. quick replies from the windows team. runs all my games perfectly and i dont really have a mad setup as some do. i also use ntune for my graphics card and with windows 7 i seem to be able to overclock the gpu without it overheating as much.

all drivers with win 7 are perfect smile.gif and if they dont work you can force install them anyway. so you can still use drivers coded for xp smile.gif
the red krawler
Just installed Win7 on a HP laptop that came bundled with Vista Home Basic which kept screwing up the touch buttons, so I formatted and put Vista64 Ultimate on, and got all the drivers seperately which was a painful process.... and the buttons worked eventually, but after 9 months or so it suffered from the same hard drive corruption that mine did (where the Application Data directory ends up recursing 255 times and then roots the NTFS)

Installed Win7 and all the drivers were either built in, or came up in a box that said "click here to get the drivers" which linked to the correct HP download. Every single one! Insane.

My box was the same deal, with even the HD4870 being included and the best part - it hasnt crashed once! I used to get bluescreens no matter what version of the drivers I used under Vista Ultimate.

I think I'm in love, and may actually end up paying for an OS... ohmy.gif
Mr.B
QUOTE (the red krawler @ Aug 30 2009, 02:12 PM) *
I think I'm in love, and may actually end up paying for an OS... ohmy.gif


Anti-christ...
TUN35
QUOTE (the red krawler @ Aug 30 2009, 02:12 PM) *
Just installed Win7 on a HP laptop that came bundled with Vista Home Basic which kept screwing up the touch buttons, so I formatted and put Vista64 Ultimate on, and got all the drivers seperately which was a painful process.... and the buttons worked eventually, but after 9 months or so it suffered from the same hard drive corruption that mine did (where the Application Data directory ends up recursing 255 times and then roots the NTFS)

Installed Win7 and all the drivers were either built in, or came up in a box that said "click here to get the drivers" which linked to the correct HP download. Every single one! Insane.

My box was the same deal, with even the HD4870 being included and the best part - it hasnt crashed once! I used to get bluescreens no matter what version of the drivers I used under Vista Ultimate.

I think I'm in love, and may actually end up paying for an OS... ohmy.gif


It's very impressive with it's drivers support! Even tv tuners just get picked up and installed smile.gif

I've had some issues with my media center though, blue screens during sleep and restarts itself... bit odd, think it's related to my video card, but haven't looked to far into it as of yet.
My_ToyMota
hmm blue screen to me sounds like ram problems... or video card memory problems. it has failed to pick up a tv tuner driver for me. the kworld dvb-t 380ur cant find the driver anywhere!

i have also installed win 7 build 7600 deactivated on my carpc smile.gif runs like a dream
TUN35
QUOTE (My_ToyMota @ Aug 31 2009, 10:42 AM) *
hmm blue screen to me sounds like ram problems... or video card memory problems. it has failed to pick up a tv tuner driver for me. the kworld dvb-t 380ur cant find the driver anywhere!

i have also installed win 7 build 7600 deactivated on my carpc smile.gif runs like a dream


Turns out it's my nvidia card that likes to crash the system during sleep. Also doesn't resume with the display active, so I'll grab another card and see how I go smile.gif Got some new quiet bits and pieces to throw into the HTPC tonight and see how we go.
MarcD
I don't know why people were having so many issues with Vista. I blame dodgy hardware. Vista x64 Ultimate has been running rock solid on my machine ever since I put it together. I'll be upgrading to Windows 7, but I am dubious as to any advantages since benchmarks released so far show mixed results as any advantages over Vista are very marginal.

I have not yet used Windows 7 on my own machines (I don't install pre-release versions since all my computers are used for work related purposes) so I am hoping that MS have improved desktop responsiveness which is my old gripe about Vista. I don't expect that 7 will run my applications any faster than they currently do.
mikejoel
would Windows 7, requires more memory, or more space on my hdd, or i need to upgrade my cpu?
the red krawler
QUOTE (MarcD @ Sep 22 2009, 01:27 PM) *
I don't know why people were having so many issues with Vista. I blame dodgy hardware.


fwiw, I've installed Vista on 4 different PCs and they all ended up having hard drive corruption - specifically the 'Application Data' directory ends up recursing (ie: Application Data\Application Data\Application Data\Application Data 255 directories deep until you get an error).

Apparently Application Data is a symbolic link in Vista to maintain compatability with XP programs? Either way, every system thats corrupted in this way becomes incredibly slow when loading programs and anything that relies on searching your HDD (including Windows own search, and anti virus programs) as once it hits that directory it gets stuck dropping down 255 subdirectories.

Ive got Win7 on two PCs atm and they havent done this - the one on my main computer has been installed longer than Vista without issue so its +1 for Win7 so far. The other bonus is that its built-in drivers for the HD4870 have worked perfectly since the install, whereas Vista with 4 or 5 versions of the catalyst drivers crashed constantly. The laptop install even picked up the HP touch buttons which Vista didnt.

Im a convert. My upgrade path would be MS DOS -> Win95 -> Win98 SE -> Win XP -> Win7. Assuming I had incredible foresight back in the DOS 5 days tongue.gif
GTRwilson
So when can Windows 7 be bought from stores? Still October? Im currently running the Windows 7 RTM i believe which is valid until sometime next year. Will this be close enough to the final release version meaning i can run it until next year when it expires, or should i buy the final edition when it hits the stores?

p.s. My system meter is showing 30% RAM usage while idle with Windows 7.(5GB of RAM) this normal?
Chris
I've been running Win7 for a while now, seems pretty solid but i didn't complain about Vista either.

I've gotten some BSOD's but i think they're the ATI drivers / DirectX fault. Actually when i rebooted my system this morning i was told that Windows has had a severe issue and it needed to do a system restore because files are missing. I never did anything to encourage system restore beforehand but it seemed to know what it was doing. Fixed it up and then when i went to go play Arma II ,it wanted to install DirectX drivers again. So i guess it was DirectX's fault.

Win7 fixed it up though, i never had to do a thing, no other files missing.
mikeambler
hey guys got a question i am planning to get a new laptop, would win 7 look good on laptops or or win 7 is better in desktops?
Chris
QUOTE (mikeambler @ Oct 22 2009, 02:36 PM) *
hey guys got a question i am planning to get a new laptop, would win 7 look good on laptops or or win 7 is better in desktops?

Either.
CALIbrated
QUOTE (Chris @ Oct 22 2009, 06:09 PM) *
Either.

depends on the spec machines you are comparing, but ideally, yes they will look essentially the same.
Akshunhiro
$469?

$469?

FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTY NINE DOLLARS?

FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTY NINE DOLLARS?

GET FUCKED!
n_one
lol@ w7 student only being able to run 3 applications at once.
CALIbrated
QUOTE (Akshunhiro @ Oct 22 2009, 11:01 PM) *
$469?

$469?

FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTY NINE DOLLARS?

FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTY NINE DOLLARS?

GET FUCKED!

majority of users wont get Ultimate as they wont need the extra features. Home premium will do everything they need it to do.
also, OEM > Retail biggrin.gif

QUOTE (n_one @ Oct 22 2009, 11:34 PM) *
lol@ w7 student only being able to run 3 applications at once.

thats what they get for being a cheapass
Akshunhiro
Yeah true but it's just annoying that they bring out varying levels of shit. Should be 2 versions. Client and Server.

Client should not be toned down, should be fully featured! I know Ultimate comes with Media Centre and stuff but that shouldn't be extra.

M$ need to wake up, they'd make enough money with their server licensing so why ass rape the little guy just because they want Ultimate?
MarcD
QUOTE (Akshunhiro @ Oct 23 2009, 10:48 AM) *
Yeah true but it's just annoying that they bring out varying levels of shit. Should be 2 versions. Client and Server.

Client should not be toned down, should be fully featured! I know Ultimate comes with Media Centre and stuff but that shouldn't be extra.

M$ need to wake up, they'd make enough money with their server licensing so why ass rape the little guy just because they want Ultimate?


Nahh the levels of features they have in 7 are good. It makes it cheap for people like my parents who don't need all the features in Ultimate and don't want to pay for said features either.
Damo
I'll either buy win7 when i buy new pc next year or i'll just install vista again and wait till next OS.
Chris
QUOTE (Damo @ Oct 24 2009, 02:33 PM) *
I'll either buy win7 when i buy new pc next year or i'll just install vista again and wait till next OS.

Microsoft.Windows.7.ULTIMATE.x64.OEM.DVD-BIE

oopsie.gif
xclusive_eg8
Im looking at doing the upgrade but have a few questions..

Im running Vista Ultimate 32bit atm, and it doesnt seem to like the idea of sharing the load on my quad core, mainly likes core 1 and 3...

is W7 more lightweight?? like less crap within the OS itself

My specs are: Asus P5Q Pro Mobo, Intel Q6600 clocked to 3.2GHz, Corsair 1066MHz 4GB (Which Vista is only using 3100MB of), cant evan remember what graphics card I got, but dont mind upgrading..


basicly want a OS that uses my comp to potential, not just run all clogged up and slowish like Vista

my pc is normally used to convert videos, music and gaming...

think Windows 7 work decent for me??
-SUT-
QUOTE (Chris @ Oct 24 2009, 06:11 PM) *
Microsoft.Windows.7.ULTIMATE.x64.OEM.DVD-BIE

oopsie.gif


heh ive been searching all day for one, i saw that one but had very little seeds so found another tongue.gif
Damo
QUOTE (Chris @ Oct 24 2009, 06:11 PM) *
Microsoft.Windows.7.ULTIMATE.x64.OEM.DVD-BIE

oopsie.gif



I like to own my copies of operating systems..already own xp 64 and vista 64.
Chris
QUOTE (xclusive_eg8 @ Oct 24 2009, 03:21 PM) *
Im looking at doing the upgrade but have a few questions..

Im running Vista Ultimate 32bit atm, and it doesnt seem to like the idea of sharing the load on my quad core, mainly likes core 1 and 3...

is W7 more lightweight?? like less crap within the OS itself

My specs are: Asus P5Q Pro Mobo, Intel Q6600 clocked to 3.2GHz, Corsair 1066MHz 4GB (Which Vista is only using 3100MB of), cant evan remember what graphics card I got, but dont mind upgrading..


basicly want a OS that uses my comp to potential, not just run all clogged up and slowish like Vista

my pc is normally used to convert videos, music and gaming...

think Windows 7 work decent for me??

Yes.

There is no reason for you to not use an x64 OS.
Unless you use outdated software.
MarcD
QUOTE (xclusive_eg8 @ Oct 24 2009, 06:21 PM) *
Im looking at doing the upgrade but have a few questions..

Im running Vista Ultimate 32bit atm, and it doesnt seem to like the idea of sharing the load on my quad core, mainly likes core 1 and 3...

is W7 more lightweight?? like less crap within the OS itself

My specs are: Asus P5Q Pro Mobo, Intel Q6600 clocked to 3.2GHz, Corsair 1066MHz 4GB (Which Vista is only using 3100MB of), cant evan remember what graphics card I got, but dont mind upgrading..


basicly want a OS that uses my comp to potential, not just run all clogged up and slowish like Vista

my pc is normally used to convert videos, music and gaming...

think Windows 7 work decent for me??


So essentially your problems with Vista come down to a lack of understanding of how multi-processing works and not chosing a 64bit OS when using more than 4Gb of RAM.

The problem is that 32bit OSs can only address 4Gb (well, 2^32 ) of *physical* memory. The video card needs it memory to be physically addressable so the only way this can happen is that it comes out of the available memory. So, if you have 4gb of physicaly ram and a 512Mb video card, expect that your OS will only have 3.5gb available to it as addressable physical memory.

With regards to multi-processors. Just because you have 4 cores in there, doesn't mean you can get them working at once on everything.
CALIbrated
QUOTE (xclusive_eg8 @ Oct 24 2009, 06:21 PM) *
Im looking at doing the upgrade but have a few questions..

Im running Vista Ultimate 32bit atm, and it doesnt seem to like the idea of sharing the load on my quad core, mainly likes core 1 and 3...

is W7 more lightweight?? like less crap within the OS itself

My specs are: Asus P5Q Pro Mobo, Intel Q6600 clocked to 3.2GHz, Corsair 1066MHz 4GB (Which Vista is only using 3100MB of), cant evan remember what graphics card I got, but dont mind upgrading..


basicly want a OS that uses my comp to potential, not just run all clogged up and slowish like Vista

my pc is normally used to convert videos, music and gaming...

think Windows 7 work decent for me??

Win7 is far more efficient at distributing processing between cores than vista, and microsoft has vowed that it will become even better as win7 gets updated with service packs.

as MarcD mentioned, that is the reason your cannot use the 4GB you have.

Here are the upper RAM limits for the different editions of Windows 7 64-bit:

* Starter: 8GB
* Home Basic: 8GB
* Home Premium: 16GB
* Professional: 192GB
* Enterprise: 192GB
* Ultimate: 192GB

MASSIVE improvement.

Basically, Win7 is the best OS ever made by MS. Get it.
Mr.B
Quick query as I don't have the time to go looking for the answers.

Currently running a Q6600 (Core 2 Quad) on an MSI P35 Neo with 3Gb of DDR-800. I'm looking to go to Windows 7. I'd like to go 64bit, but I think a little more RAM is in order for the comfort factor. The MB can handle up to 4Gb of DDR3-1066. First, is it worth upgrading the RAM to DDR3 to run W7, or should I upgrade the whole MB,CPU,RAM in one hit? Second, if I can just do the RAM, what is recommended from your personal experience?
CALIbrated
QUOTE (Mr.B @ Oct 25 2009, 09:10 AM) *
Quick query as I don't have the time to go looking for the answers.

Currently running a Q6600 (Core 2 Quad) on an MSI P35 Neo with 3Gb of DDR-800. I'm looking to go to Windows 7. I'd like to go 64bit, but I think a little more RAM is in order for the comfort factor. The MB can handle up to 4Gb of DDR3-1066. First, is it worth upgrading the RAM to DDR3 to run W7, or should I upgrade the whole MB,CPU,RAM in one hit? Second, if I can just do the RAM, what is recommended from your personal experience?

in all honesty, i dont think you will notice a difference at all by adding an extra 1GB.

if upgrading is something you are planning, i would recommend doing it all in one hit. saves $$$ and hassles in the long run.
MarcD
QUOTE (Mr.B @ Oct 25 2009, 09:10 AM) *
Quick query as I don't have the time to go looking for the answers.

Currently running a Q6600 (Core 2 Quad) on an MSI P35 Neo with 3Gb of DDR-800. I'm looking to go to Windows 7. I'd like to go 64bit, but I think a little more RAM is in order for the comfort factor. The MB can handle up to 4Gb of DDR3-1066. First, is it worth upgrading the RAM to DDR3 to run W7, or should I upgrade the whole MB,CPU,RAM in one hit? Second, if I can just do the RAM, what is recommended from your personal experience?



QUOTE (CALIbrated @ Oct 25 2009, 09:24 AM) *
in all honesty, i dont think you will notice a difference at all by adding an extra 1GB.

if upgrading is something you are planning, i would recommend doing it all in one hit. saves $$$ and hassles in the long run.


I'll agree to this. The extra Gb of RAM only comes in handy if you tend to run out of physical memory often. However RAM nowdays is pretty cheap so getting another 1gb isn't going to break the bank but just may not be nessesary or make your machine any faster.

Your current Q6600 should be using DDR2 memory already and you aren't going to notice a huge world of improvement going to DDR3. Faster HDD will increase the responsiveness and speed of your computer over faster RAM since disk IO nowdays is the bottleneck of most computers.
CALIbrated
QUOTE (MarcD @ Oct 25 2009, 11:17 AM) *
I'll agree to this. The extra Gb of RAM only comes in handy if you tend to run out of physical memory often. However RAM nowdays is pretty cheap so getting another 1gb isn't going to break the bank but just may not be nessesary or make your machine any faster.

Your current Q6600 should be using DDR2 memory already and you aren't going to notice a huge world of improvement going to DDR3. Faster HDD will increase the responsiveness and speed of your computer over faster RAM since disk IO nowdays is the bottleneck of most computers.

and i'll agree to this.

SSD ftw. bit pricey though sad.gif
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