Not wanting to take anything away from Willowbank's events but after having powercruise and now a successful nostalgia's event why not get a local fast fours and imports event going here in the top end ?. Judging by reading submissions on this site and the entries on a Friday night street meet there are quite a few that have the whole package to be a competitor, all it takes is to ask the question to as many people in the right circles to have half a chance of getting something like this off the ground, I for one am not afraid to knock on doors to ask for sponsorship or to guage expression of interest but it takes more than one person to make it happen.

Let your thoughts be know here.........

or you know they could just

a. open the track alot more and have more fun days where people can just come down on the day

b. build skid pan and have that open every weekend for practices etc

A. power of the people needed to encourage top end motorsport to support that, maybe more traders / caterers need to speak up

B. this is being built at the end of the current season, access to it every weekend will be up to hvdra commitee

PM sent.

Can you imagine how many people would actually go down to the track if it was more open to the public and was affordable..definitly something the government should look at..

Is the pad going to be used by just HVDRA or are other forms of the sport going to be allowed to use it?

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not sure in the details yet as i am not a committee member for HVDRA, maybe try PM'ing jay or emailing the committee matee

you have my support taffy.

asrf nationals would be nice too

Do you think the track is under-used?

http://www.namsc.org.au/2009HiddenValleyCalendar.htm

There are more than just HVDRA, NAMSC and TEDA that use the complex.

I don't think you'd have people volunteering (yes, volunteering) their time more often. For things like a skidpan to run every weekend you'd have to pay people to administer it.

As far as cost goes, the NT has pretty much the cheapest motorsport in the country.

As far as the jamboree idea goes......excellent idea. It would be a matter of working out what type of events you want to run and finding out the level of genuine interest from there.

all of the users down there have THE MOST affordable events within Australia... you tell me if you can go drifting for $44 anywhere else, or drag race for $40 anywhere else...
People out there would much rather pay a $200 fine for 2 seconds of stupid fun than come down and have a night of fun...

We struggle as it is now to open more often
1. because there is approx 7 clubs who use HV complex and we all want the friday, sat, sundays to use it
2. Most sports seem to have plenty of side line coaches but unfortunately those same people dont come and lend a hand to create a better event!
3. People dont have the $$ nor the time to turn their cars around week in week out to compete in these events.. If you bust a drag car 80% of the time it takes you a month to turn it around, can imagine the same for a drift, circuit car.....
4. Sponsors already give what they can - dont forget many are struggling during this crisis so we cant stretch them any further....
I could go on..........

The pad will form part of the HV motorsport complex for all to use - i would guess priority would go to HVDRA as we did do all the work to get it there....
But in saying that the black track users group (a rep from every motorsport club) meets regularly and im sure the use and conditions of use/maintenance etc will be set out once its up and running....



Taffy - like your idea but perhaps instead of starting from the beginning talk to John Palamountain (Shannons) and see if you can tap into his Shannons Extravaganza show... We should grow the currrent successful events otherwise you may end up competing for $$ and resources etc but wanting to both achieve the same thing in the end...
Also the Shannons show wont separate the two groups (imports vs v8's etc) put them all together and show case Darwins best regardless of whats in the bonnet!!

Just my thoughts!!

myself and many others volunteer our time for drag racing, mud racing and speedway.....it is what we love and have a passion for and i am sure if the call went out for people to help out trying to blot out the sun or moon with tyre smoke then the list would be as long as your arm, as for the skidpan running every weekend i think it would be better modelled on Archefield in Brisbane who originally ran the event on a fortnightly basis before the popularity grew to the stage that it is now where they almost run it weekly. My original question was for a kamboree style event and who would support it and not just for burnout comps ( although they are a big part of themodefied car scene )

as usual mel you have hit the nail on the head, but none of this goes forward without the support of the local community /s and people that truly want to see this sport evolve her in the NT

you have no idea..... but all that has already been covered...






definitely think that idea has a LOT of potential
rollaclub have joined the extravaganza at times, we could make a Boostcruising group for a start.
which also shows how diverse the modified car scene is in darwin.

I know the circuit car guys struggled to get enough volunteers and had to offer up money to get the support they needed.
Lots of people do what they can and my thanks goes out to them.
Hasnt Troy organised a heap of Lawn mowers to come up and race later in the year??? maybe some fast fours could be enticed to join in.

Dont care either way, nice to have some variety, but for me variety is Big Block or Small Block...........(with a red 6 thrown in)

yeah and its always the assistance that we cant get enough/more of...
its a hard thing cause peolpe (myself included for some motorsports!) just like to sit and watch it - or participate in it... so arent available to volunteer.... and i went to a conference last week that spoke about how Gen Y's etc have trouble voluntering cause they like to be paid for everything... so that in itself can be a problem... Some of our vollies at the drags have been doing it for decades but cant leave becasue there is no one else to take over them!

Anyway im always up for being the gate bitch!! but wont be here next year...

not for this year mate,maybe next year. as i have found out its not bloody easy orginising some cars to come up and race.but it will happen with time and support on my side.

Just need to get some transport people (Rattler???) onside and it will make the trip more attractive to people. Good luck

another thing.

Shannons is 'insurance for motoring enthusiasts'

we are 'motoring enthusiasts'
always trying to move away from the bling bling ricer 'hoon' category

if we associate ourselves with the shannons show, it will show that we are motoring enthusiasts, some (most?) of us ARE responsible and just take pride in our cars as well.

i think we just need to try and support the existing shows. like this year for example, the extravaganza was canned. why start another one if the regular ones cant even keep going?

A mini "nats" style event would be more appealing to the public.

+ I dont believe you'd get the entry's, most (And i say fucking MOST) of the import owners own imports because they are trend followers, and dont use their chosen vehicles and come up with every excuse under the sun when asked why they dont drag race it/drift it/track it but do so on the street everyday.

Sadly most motorsport events in Darwin are dominated by the ford/holden banner and i honestly dont believe you'd get a fast fours/rotor/import event off the ground in Darwin numbers wise. Not without a lot of support and sponsorship anyway.

I understand powercruise is going to be on again next year. Without powercruise you might have a chance of it being popular.

his commitment is over, i have not seen anything written, spoken, smoke signal or otherwise to say that the show will go on

would be good to see some cars up but i dont think it will happen. As we have seen many times over the past year or so HVDRA will not support sport compact and we all get different stories be it from committie members and sponsors and people in the loop with car teams and drives. I think Joe would be best on the money.


A darwin's own mini nats like power cruise/fun day that has a bit of everything. Would not happen till next year but would be good. I know TEDA would help out with as much as possible if they got some track time and as would some Burnout peeps. But we shall see where this thread goes with in a week or so.


My guess it will end up with the rest of the threads covering the same thing over and over

pardon my ignorance but why won't HVDRA support the sport compact guys ???

seems to me they are missing out on a big chunk of today's competitors by not utilising the current trends in racing to supplement the brackets that are in place right now

I think the nostalgia event showed that darwin can put on a specific show without having to bring up a stack of cars from down south. Two cars came up with the promoter. The rest were from darwin, alice and katherine. I think the promoting of it targeting the owners of nostalgia cars is what made it a success.

Bring up one or two cars and target the fast fours, sixes and rotaries with the advertising and it might work.

that's my opinion anyway.

Thanks Adam, my point exactly the you so diplomatically put forward........( never have been a speech writer )

I'm up for it

Not gonna comment on "won't happen" or "this is gonna be huge" coz I don't know exactly what the car scene is like up here.

I just wanna support the motorsports community as much as I can, so if help is needed, let me know

advertising a month before the meeting helps too......

thats a good point Adam,but with only 2 cars if 1 breaks doesnt leave much to see. yes nostalgias was good,they did all their own promotion and stuff like that. but with a jambo style event it would be better to have more than 2 cars from interstate to put on a show.the more cars the bigger the show they put on.
yes with the right promotion it will work,and should be successful,but bringing in all the Darwin cars,will be the problem because as Joe said to many are just image cars.
And as i stated in many other threads sport compact/jamborree caters for all types of cars be it v8 or rotary and bikes.where most people connect it to just rotors,4's and 6's so straight away we have a problem.
i would support an event like this in Darwin,it would be great for HVDRA as they are trying to cater for everyones likes in drag racing.

I dont know mate. But it was spoken about several times to people and it gets shit canned every time or put on the back burner every time. I have no idea why as most of the crowd that goes to the drags seems to be the younger generation. Fast fours rotor and 6's is something they have grown up with so i totally agreee with you and say the they would be missing a huge chunk of the game but like i said they dont see it that way.



I am in no way putting you down for the idea in anyway. I think it will be great and if HVDRA get behind it it would be better still.




I am not going to say much more on the wont happen thing as i know you personally troy and know you work hard to try and change some peoples minds on the whole sport compact scene. I dont know what you have been working on lately but no doubt there is something in the air.

Peoples whole perspective is fucking imports blah blah blah but what they dont see is that many types of cars and engines can compete in sport compact and this needs to be brought out in the open before you will get the backing of the HVDRA committee.

Why must it be HVDRA backed??

These sort of events arent all about drag racing, and honestly, shouldnt be all about drag racing.

There are plenty of other events you could run at an event like this, such as Motorkana's/drifting/go to whoa/burnout comps/powerskids/grudge racing etc and would be more suited to a CAMS sanctioned event rather than a ANDRA sanctioned event, and would also aid in gaining the attention of the import style category.

You only have to take a look at the numbers at the HV motorkhana's compared to the street drags.

great, now put your hand up to help make it happen

Done.

When and where??

We really need to hold some form of informal meeting to discuss futher.

i would suggest that seeing as you guys gather regularly during the week that you arrange somewhere and a time and i will be more than happy to be there as well

Ok for those that are interested in setting up an event of the like, i'd ask that you submit your interest here and best time/place to conduct a meeting to get something underway.

Maybe a thursday @ WOW in conjunction with Rc's??

Ppl's input/interest??

Edit: Not saying this thursday, maybe plan 2 weeks from now so ppl have time to organise/make arrangements.

can i come?

The more the merrier Troy

marked my calendar for 2 weeks time, see you there

only if you bring your rc car out

my what?

you know that little thing you never use anymore...



no not your doodle , the other little thing

i'd put my hand up but i can see the eyes rolling now!
so those in charge can pm me if you need my help

There will be no eye rolling, and your input would be greatly appreciated.

We need all the help we can get to turn this idea into an event.

weeeeee


i'll be one of those bludges sitting on the hill with my pretty pink car (only cause i would brake something again)

i'll be there 2

any input from veterans of drag, burnout,drift, go- whoa etc: would be greatly appreciated, not to mention speakers in the field of turboing or boosting in general, tyre manufacturers / distributors....well you get the picture

feel free to drop me a PM if you are attending the meeting so i can send out a reminder prior to the 7th of june

dont know much on the actual 'car' side of things but more than happy to help with name dropping and connections.. not promising $3 million just yet but will gladly help in anyway!

did i tell you i met the Jim Beam distriubutor mmmmmmmmm Beeeeaaaammmmm.....

see.... this is freakin awesome....

in one thread... we've got people bitching at each other and having a huge argument... (when taken at face value)

and in another thread, we have some of the same people organising a time and a place for a meeting to discuss expansion of Darwins car scene/motorsport.



if i'm free, i'll tag along too. 11th of June?

I'll be there anyway if it's at RC's

Glad to help in any way I can.

Guys dont waste your time it has been done before and guess what, it was a waste of time. The idea of a jamboree is great BUT the operators of HVIDS are only volenteers and do not have the capacity to put on event of this magnatude. Not for the lack of entheuasim but for the lack of ability to commit the time required to do this as volenteers and untill the entire motorsports complex is taken over and run as a sole organisation you will not see events of this magnatude in Darwin. The concept of bringing higher performing import cars to Darwin has been investigated and will probably happen in the future but I wouldnt hold your breath waiting

oh ffs.


they said drifting would never happen in darwin too......