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unreal
Benny is putting a rb26 turbo on the toyota dyna transported and is chacing diagrams/pictures on how to plumb it all up, oil,vacuum lines .. also is after flanges/exhaust that bolt to the turbo.
incubus
QUOTE (unreal @ May 27 2009, 01:45 PM) *
Benny is putting a rb26 turbo on the toyota dyna transported and is chacing diagrams/pictures on how to plumb it all up, oil,vacuum lines .. also is after flanges/exhaust that bolt to the turbo.


you're taking the piss right ?

tell the big hole i'll give him what he needs on thursday if i can find it
RBNT
He should be putting an RB26DETT into the Dyna.

4real.
HASHIRIYA
theres already a 5l V8 in a dyna truck up here

i really don't see how a RB would like to be in the dyna
unreal
he is putting a turbo on the h motor
Zmit
needs to be in a zook....
or an old patrol...
incubus
with hoe low that shit heap revs , i doubt it'll make boost tongue.gif
Daniel180
lol tim and ryan i think you guys missed it
ScUd'EsS
and he needs a new wife cause this one is shaking her fuck'n head!! head_wall.gif argue.gif
incubus
QUOTE (ScUd'EsS @ May 27 2009, 10:03 PM) *
and he needs a new wife cause this one is shaking her fuck'n head!! head_wall.gif argue.gif


the truck needs it mel thumbsup.gif


ben has a present for ben too.

when we going racing next ?
RBNT
QUOTE (Daniel180 @ May 27 2009, 06:55 PM) *
lol tim and ryan i think you guys missed it


pretty much
Zmit

confirmed.


should have been this though...
QUOTE (RBNT @ May 27 2009, 04:43 PM) *
He should be putting an RB26DETT into the Dyna.

4real.
SIKUNIT
Put a chev in it mamoru.gif
buzurkracing
its really for the SCUD.

good to see Ben stepping up lol mamoru.gif
taffywing
QUOTE (buzurkracing @ May 30 2009, 09:24 AM) *
its really for the SCUD.

good to see Ben stepping up lol mamoru.gif


could need some wheels up advice from you soon laugh.gif
unreal
QUOTE (buzurkracing @ May 30 2009, 09:24 AM) *
its really for the SCUD.

good to see Ben stepping up lol mamoru.gif


fuck that we might aswell just put the diesel in scud if we wanted to go slower mamoru.gif

anyway benny has had some good advice from the turbo mob on winnellie rd thought that you mob would have some good diagrams on how to plumb up a turbo but was wrong..
DSHIZNIT


yeh i was there with the boss when he asked bowrofl.gif we laughed as soon as he left. no offence but you cant just bolt a turbo on and expect to make it work, specially on a N/A diesel you would be lucky to run 8psi... hounestly not worth the money, but if money isnt a prob pm me and ill see what i can do lol then again we do sell the kits to convert the hilux and cruza diesels to turbo not cheap tho.

you have to plumb up all of the water lines and the oil lines as well as remove the sump ect ect.... any how if you wanna chat bout it just PM me thumbsup.gif
ScUd'EsS
Well shiznit if your company policy is to post and boast about laughing at customers who come in for some advice then you will loose customers very quickly in a small place like this!

Ben and I have just read your post and well yeah money was no issue but a bit of courtesy and service is an issue with a big spend but with the above comment we might just spend that else where now! Cheers! smile.gif

JET_RB25
QUOTE (unreal @ May 30 2009, 10:19 AM) *
fuck that we might aswell just put the diesel in scud if we wanted to go slower mamoru.gif

anyway benny has had some good advice from the turbo mob on winnellie rd thought that you mob would have some good diagrams on how to plumb up a turbo but was wrong..


He needs to go and see Devo and that i am sure they can help him out.


QUOTE (DSHIZNIT @ May 30 2009, 07:26 PM) *
yeh i was there with the boss when he asked bowrofl.gif we laughed as soon as he left. no offence but you cant just bolt a turbo on and expect to make it work, specially on a N/A diesel you would be lucky to run 8psi... hounestly not worth the money, but if money isnt a prob pm me and ill see what i can do lol then again we do sell the kits to convert the hilux and cruza diesels to turbo not cheap tho.

you have to plumb up all of the water lines and the oil lines as well as remove the sump ect ect.... any how if you wanna chat bout it just PM me thumbsup.gif


Bahahaha how dumb to get on here and brag about laughin about customers. Well dome mate might just let your boss know bout your stupid antics on the forum. I am sure he would love to know how you just lost him bulk cash

QUOTE (ScUd'EsS @ May 30 2009, 11:51 PM) *
Well shiznit if your company policy is to post and boast about laughing at customers who come in for some advice then you will loose customers very quickly in a small place like this!

Ben and I have just read your post and well yeah money was no issue but a bit of courtesy and service is an issue with a big spend but with the above comment we might just spend that else where now! Cheers! smile.gif



Take the cash elsewhere. I am sure there is plenty of other places around town that would help. Go see Dave at High Tech and chat to him. He is very handy and knows his shit. PM Me mell if you need contact numbers.
Zmit
well done Wayne.....
Daniel180
QUOTE (DSHIZNIT @ May 30 2009, 06:56 PM) *
yeh i was there with the boss when he asked bowrofl.gif we laughed as soon as he left. no offence but you cant just bolt a turbo on and expect to make it work, specially on a N/A diesel you would be lucky to run 8psi... hounestly not worth the money, but if money isnt a prob pm me and ill see what i can do lol then again we do sell the kits to convert the hilux and cruza diesels to turbo not cheap tho.

you have to plumb up all of the water lines and the oil lines as well as remove the sump ect ect.... any how if you wanna chat bout it just PM me thumbsup.gif

your a dickhead


pretty sure ben and ben should ask you about how the turbo setup will work because they are both noobs and dont know anything at all about engines or anything to do with cars even driving
unreal
wow 2 of you laugh at benny and everyone is laughing at you il be sure never to sent business your way again thanks mate
ScUd'EsS
QUOTE (JET_RB25 @ May 30 2009, 11:52 PM) *
He needs to go and see Devo and that i am sure they can help him out.
PM Me mell if you need contact numbers.

yeah for memory he has Devo's number... so i'll show him this and get him to go there or Dave.. thumbsup.gif
incubus
QUOTE (ScUd'EsS @ May 31 2009, 12:11 PM) *
yeah for memory he has Devo's number... so i'll show him this and get him to go there or Dave.. thumbsup.gif


get blood nut to drop by jcpis on tuesday and pick up that pipe he wants. i'll have sitting on ben's desk for him
sp33d
Which H motor is it? Is it the 3.6 or 4.0L straight six?

Just that it might be easier to go to 11mile wreckers, and see if Graham has any Toyota Coaster buses. They come out with a turbo charged 2H motor (4.0L, found in 60 series cruisers as well, think its call a 2HT or 12H). He's had a few in there over the years.

Might be able to either swap the whole bloody engine over, or hope that the manifolding and lines are interchangeble with the Dyna's 3.6 or 4.0L motah. Would be good for research purposes any way.

Then theres the diesel fuel pump issue: needs an anearoid fitted, or the turbo fuel pump fitted in its place; much like a rising rate FPR to get the fuel up to match the boost (as you might use in a petrol turbo conversion).....theres probably another 100nm of pulling power in the coaster donk. Even if you pop in and lurk around the yard at 11mile, youd be able to have a look at the turbocharger setup, see where all the oil feeds and returns are taken from and even have a look at the exhaust housing on the factory turbo, see just how much bigger it is than the cute little girly-man RB26 huffer.


That little extra power from the blower would make towing the scud to Alice/further sooooooo much less fatigueing, that youse'd probably be more refreshed, and be able to think/drive better=better results.

Probably the most legitemate turbo conversion project EVER?

Daniel180
SKIDS!!!
DSHIZNIT
QUOTE (ScUd'EsS @ May 31 2009, 12:51 AM) *
Well shiznit if your company policy is to post and boast about laughing at customers who come in for some advice then you will loose customers very quickly in a small place like this!

Ben and I have just read your post and well yeah money was no issue but a bit of courtesy and service is an issue with a big spend but with the above comment we might just spend that else where now! Cheers! smile.gif


well sory that you feel that way... i never ment to brag and make a big scene out of it if thats what people are thinking, but why is it ok for people to laugh when they see a done up excel yet when the boys at work have a lil chuckle everyone is against me? all i ment is that sometimes things arnt woth the trubble and that the money that you will spend wont be worth the out come. by all means go for it but just dont take it out on me for my veiws..
dunno.gif
JET_RB25
We can laugh at a Exel mate its totally different when it comes to a business deal. I am sure if the guys at Auto barn had some kid come in to the store wanting to buy a few grand worth of shit for a excel they would not come on here laughing at someons lack of knowledge when there about to spend up big in there shop. That is the point besides he is doing it for a good reason and i am sure he has thought it through as to why he is doing it. But never mind you guys will never know
sp33d
hmmm hrmmm topic:



QUOTE (sp33d @ May 31 2009, 02:29 PM) *
Which H motor is it? Is it the 3.6 or 4.0L straight six?

Just that it might be easier to go to 11mile wreckers, and see if Graham has any Toyota Coaster buses. They come out with a turbo charged 2H motor (4.0L, found in 60 series cruisers as well, think its call a 2HT or 12H). He's had a few in there over the years.

Might be able to either swap the whole bloody engine over, or hope that the manifolding and lines are interchangeble with the Dyna's 3.6 or 4.0L motah. Would be good for research purposes any way.

Then theres the diesel fuel pump issue: needs an anearoid fitted, or the turbo fuel pump fitted in its place; much like a rising rate FPR to get the fuel up to match the boost (as you might use in a petrol turbo conversion).....theres probably another 100nm of pulling power in the coaster donk. Even if you pop in and lurk around the yard at 11mile, youd be able to have a look at the turbocharger setup, see where all the oil feeds and returns are taken from and even have a look at the exhaust housing on the factory turbo, see just how much bigger it is than the cute little girly-man RB26 huffer.


That little extra power from the blower would make towing the scud to Alice/further sooooooo much less fatigueing, that youse'd probably be more refreshed, and be able to think/drive better=better results.

Probably the most legitemate turbo conversion project EVER?

sp33d
DSHIZNIT, i understand where you coming from, id have a giggle too, as long as the boss laughs too, which he did.

What do you reckon is a good way to go about FI on the dyna?
DSHIZNIT
QUOTE (sp33d @ Jun 1 2009, 08:04 PM) *
DSHIZNIT, i understand where you coming from, id have a giggle too, as long as the boss laughs too, which he did.

What do you reckon is a good way to go about FI on the dyna?

personally i would have gone with a smaller turbo to start with. being a diesel you dont want to run heaps of boost. prob 7 or 8psi max. you would have to take the sump off and weld in a fitting for the drain, tap into the heater lines for the water feed/drain and find a pressure outlet on the block to get the oil to the turbo. i didnt mean to sound like a dick and im sorry if thats what people thought but its not cheap to turbo a car, i thought bout doing it myself to my old car at one stage but wasnt worth the muney at the end of the day, but saying that there are many reasons for wanting to turbocharge a engine and long as the customer is happy thats all that matters....
JET_RB25
QUOTE (DSHIZNIT @ Jun 1 2009, 09:17 PM) *
personally i would have gone with a smaller turbo to start with. being a diesel you dont want to run heaps of boost. prob 7 or 8psi max. you would have to take the sump off and weld in a fitting for the drain, tap into the heater lines for the water feed/drain and find a pressure outlet on the block to get the oil to the turbo. i didnt mean to sound like a dick and im sorry if thats what people thought but its not cheap to turbo a car, i thought bout doing it myself to my old car at one stage but wasnt worth the muney at the end of the day, but saying that there are many reasons for wanting to turbocharge a engine and long as the customer is happy thats all that matters....



Now your talking. But what engine is in the dyna i thought it was pretty large like a 4L or some shit. If thats correct remember that the rb26 is only a 2.6l and there is two turbo's so that being said the turbo is basically a 1.3l turbo. Why would you want to go smaller. These turbos put out around 8psi stock from memory in a 2.6 so you would see less then the mentioned 8psi as its a larger capacity engine yeah?
SIKUNIT
RPM and wheel sizes would affect it though beej.
JET_RB25
Yeah but if the wastegate is set at factory it will only push so much yeah?

Maybe its different with turbo to blower but when the silvia was blown with the small large pully off the 1.6l engine on my 1.8l i should have got around the 8psi from factory but was only getting 6.5 was told it cos the bigger engine.
RBNT
Beej, the ole dyna wont rev hard mate. With the factory gate set to around 8 psi I think it could be a pretty good match, or chuck a CT26 on it.
Plugg3r
sp33d's idea is probably the best so far... the old 4L Turbo 60 series engines went hard!
SCHSLYF
dont fuck around ben, just buy the 6.5l v8 TD chev motor like what ken has in the cruiser.
SCHSLYF
also i dont really know why you would come on here, were the person was and say that as soon as they walked out you were laughing at them. most people would use their brains and keep that to themselves. maybe posting your opinion on it not being worth while and giving your reasons etc etc, might have earnt a bit of respect from the people chasing this, and when thought thought of other idea's they might consider returning to the helpful people rather than those that think they are just a joke.

but im sure now Ben will take his money elsewhere, as he knows you well think he is a joke.
HASHIRIYA
QUOTE (DSHIZNIT @ Jun 1 2009, 08:47 PM) *
personally i would have gone with a smaller turbo to start with. being a diesel you dont want to run heaps of boost. prob 7 or 8psi max. you would have to take the sump off and weld in a fitting for the drain, tap into the heater lines for the water feed/drain and find a pressure outlet on the block to get the oil to the turbo. i didnt mean to sound like a dick and im sorry if thats what people thought but its not cheap to turbo a car, i thought bout doing it myself to my old car at one stage but wasnt worth the muney at the end of the day, but saying that there are many reasons for wanting to turbocharge a engine and long as the customer is happy thats all that matters....

are you even qualified in anything engineering/mechanical or just a an office worker, these days you don't need to be qualifed in that field to manage work or promote sales. its not the boost you manily focus on its the volume of air it can flow for the engine
DSHIZNIT
QUOTE (HASHIRIYA @ Jun 3 2009, 05:01 PM) *
are you even qualified in anything engineering/mechanical or just a an office worker, these days you don't need to be qualifed in that field to manage work or promote sales. its not the boost you manily focus on its the volume of air it can flow for the engine

yeh im a qualified diesel mechanic.... (well soon got papers on the way) ur right bout the volume, but the volume of the air that is forced into the engine is controlled by the amount of boost you run so therefore by talking bout what boost settings you can run will pretty much determine the volume of air ( therodicaly )... having a larger turbo at the same psi as a smaller turbo will spool up later on in the revs. so if you put a smaller turbo at the same boost setting you will get better take off, not flog the crap out of the guts in your engine koz the engine wont have to rev as hard to produce the spool and will also make the dyna have more torque at bottom end.. and as for the actuator issue it would depend on what turbo. you can change different actuators from turbo to turbo with little mods to allow what pressure you want. thats why in performance setups people often change the actuators on the turbo a higher rating so you can get that lil extra booost out of it. also ive seen of people slightly bending the actuator arm the conects to the wastegate to make the actuator work lil bit quicker in the rev ranges.. thumbsup.gif
DSHIZNIT
QUOTE (RBNT @ Jun 2 2009, 10:04 AM) *
Beej, the ole dyna wont rev hard mate. With the factory gate set to around 8 psi I think it could be a pretty good match, or chuck a CT26 on it.

i got 2 CT12's lyin round at home, got the triangle 3bolt flange lol twin turbo dyna???? Drink.gif could do a compound twi turbo set up, would be diferent
Plugg3r
Nuff talking... 6.5L V8 Chev Diesel.. DO ITTTT!

Or Barra 245T DO ITTT!

SR20DET.... BURN IT!

RB26.... BURN IT.... SELL TO SCRAP YARD!
RBNT
ford owners fear the rb26. Its only natural.

Had the turbo D chev in the 80 series, was a cracker. Was also $30k installed, not including car cost.
ancullen
QUOTE (DSHIZNIT @ Jun 3 2009, 07:58 PM) *
...the volume of the air that is forced into the engine is controlled by the amount of boost...

You've kinda got that backwards. The boost level is dictated by the volume of air being forced into the engine. Boost pressures are the pressure of the air above standard atmospheric pressure, which is 1 bar, or 14.7psi.


A supercharger is easiest to use as an example, but the principle applies to a turbo, just with air produced per revolution, but far greater revolutions per minute. A two litre four stroke engine will intake one litre of air per revolution. If you have a supercharger that can produce 1200cc (1.2L) of air per revolution, and is running at the same speed as the engine, then it will be trying to pump 1.2L of air into an engine that normally only induces 1L of air for the same period. Therefore the air will be compressed to 1.2 times it's standard compression, that is 1.2 bar (17.64psi). HOWEVER, as the standard for boost measurement is the pressure above standard atmospheric pressure, your boost gauge would only read 0.2 bar, or 2.94psi.


You are correct in that if a boost controller were being used, it would have a certain boost level set, and when that boost was going to be exceeded, it would dispose of the excess volume of air.
Daniel180
nice explanation
DSHIZNIT
QUOTE (Daniel180 @ Jun 6 2009, 04:29 PM) *
nice explanation

agree'd lol well said. thumbsup.gif
JET_RB25
QUOTE (Plugg3r @ Jun 4 2009, 10:40 AM) *
Nuff talking... 6.5L V8 Chev Diesel.. DO ITTTT!

Or Barra 245T DO ITTT!

SR20DET.... BURN IT!

RB26.... BURN IT.... SELL TO SCRAP YARD!


That is the last lot of cheap anything to do with tyres you get from me
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