What would you suggest in the way of amps etc to run all of this?

My current stereo setup consists of:

Pioneer headunit DEH-P6850MP
2 x 4" Pioneer speakers in fron dash
2 x 6" Pioneers speakers in front doors
2 x 6" Pioneer speakers in parcel shelf
2 x 12" Pioneer slim line subs in the boot

Any help / advice would be greatly appreciated


Cheers

- Jess

1 - 4 channel amp for the subs

1 - 4 channel amp for the Rear 6x9's and front 6" fill

Run the dash speakers of the head unit.

i presume the Headunit has more than one pre-out. You will need 2.
Most do these days.

then it all comes down to how much u wanna spend.
Autobarn has some decent rockford and clarion in stock.
Id be shopping at JB though.

Id even look at the Response amps from Jaycar.
Great quality at a fair price.

if you get the RMS output of the subs and speakers it should be pretty easy to size up the AMP output you will need. Even the model numbers to research specs on them.
also how much ur budget is!

I had a 4 channel Response amp running a 12" sub in there before
Was really happy with that amp

Budget isn't really an issue

Cheers Benny

well its always best to have more sound coming front n front of you so i actually think you should run your fronts off a 4 channel and have your 6x9s headunit driven

Also instead of running your subs off a 4 channel amp its much more cost effective and more efficient power wise to run a class d monoblock for both your subs, alot of 1000wrms monoblocks are under $300 these days

i'd probably go for a 2 channel amp for the subs, like a 2 x 100wrms or even more, simply because you don't need to worry about bridging etc of it is just two channel. or a mono block for each sub if budget is no issue...


if you can find a way to run all your speakers off amps then you can usually turn off the internal amps in a CD player, which is supposedly better sound quality... and it also removes alot of the heat from the CD player which can only usually be a good thing. that would require a 6 channel or another small amp to supplement the four channel too tho. if you went that route, maybe a 4 channel for the two sets in the front, then a 4 channel for the rears and subs... possibilities are pretty broad, depends where you want oomph and if you want to save weight, power, heat, room or just want as much kick out of your system as possible.

im a fan of response. had them in many cars.
grab some specs then and have a look what Response are offering sounds the go!

here are the options
http://www.jaycar.com.au/productResults.asp?FORM=CAT

Amp part number CAT. NO. AA0426
2 of these would be fine. Very well priced and discounts if you buy 2.
I would Think this model would be suffcient. But thats all depending on Specs of the subs and speakers of course.
unless u want to go hard core and use the Class D precisions.

cheers

Shaun i was thinking that you could maye dial in the front dash items off the headunit to act like tweeter and run the 6" fronts via the amp for a deeper sound.

my 2c lol

ohh thats not a bad idea benny, maybe run a crossover cos i dont know if pioneer has the options..and i'd be keeping the rears turned down on the amp cos i hate hearing sound coming from behind minus bass

Ide use a jaycar responce amp for the subs definatly, 2 x 150rms with bass turned up runs really well with 2 12inch subs, Ive got it running now in a car, Verry happy with responce amps and quality of sound,

Depending on how good the subs are, You could also use a jaycar 4 x 100rms amp, Once again i have this running in a car with 2 12inch subs, bridged, Bridging is no problem, Its basicly just putting the wires in a different slot in the amp giving u total of 2 x 300rms output from ur amp into ur subs,

Theres the subs solved for anywhere from $150 - $300 for either a 2nd hand jaycar amp or a brand new one for 299 i think if u chose that option,

did u mean 6 by 9's in ur parcel shelf? either way, you could get a small amp to run them, depending on ur rms of ur speakers, could get a small amp for like $30 - $100, I have a mate that has a small 2 channel amp at the moment... i think he wants like $30 for it..

Ide then put both amps onto 1 switch in the dash somwhere, Once again simple, a $3 switch from jaycar and u split you remote wire and hook onto the switch, This way u can cut ur subs instantly, If ya see a cop switch ya sub off etc etc,

Have the smaller speakers the 6inches and the 4 inches both running off the head unit, Front and back speakers, This way if u get sick of the doof doof u can have a nice surround front and back speaker system u can control/fade from the head unit, and flick ya switch ya can have ya good speakers cranked and a massive boost of doof doof

My personal choice, had similar in lots of my cars, havn a head ache flick the switch and got some nice cruisy treble happenen

Also 8 guage wire would be fine to power both ur amps, also get this from jaycar LoL, most of my cars have been sponsored by jaycar,

Oh and with the subs, Yea a monoblock, Once again from jaycar could be a good way to go

my 2 cents worth

Only 6" speakers in parcel shelf
I don't have any 6"x9"

would be much better to run a mono for the subs, that way the amp will have the adjustability for subsonic filters, proper low pass filters etc etc...

used to have a dual voice coil 12, ran each coil off a 2x150 jaycar amp bridged to around 400rms, and then put in a 800rms class d mono jaycar amp, and that blew the 2 amp setup out of the water....

but if your budget is rather decent, i highly recommend the alpine pdx series, beautiful little amps, and good bang for buck...

so i suggest a 4 channel for speakers, and mono for subs

Anthony I think you should travel to Mexico and wire it up for me :-p

Beware border security if you do.

if not pimpin customs hold mexican citizenship.

lol... ill be down that way next monday or tuesday if you have gear and stuff by then before loss of licence haha

Nah won't have it before then, have to re carpet the boot and finish the sub box first

Thanks for the opinions and tips guys, greatly appreciated

yeah i'd go a mono block amp for your subs for sure.. I'll +1 on the jaycar band wagon, got one of their 4x100rms digital amps running my alpine type R splits and coaxals and its a sick amp for the price, id never buy anything else unless i was rich and could afford super high end stuff and then i wouldn't be running type R's lol.

I guess moe uses jaycar stuff for a reason, so if he thinks they are good enough i will use them no doubt

run rears off headunit as the only reason rears should be in a car is for passangers in the back....

get a good decent priced amp for the front splitz with Good tuning options. ALpine jvc eclipse.... anything but sony lol

responce is good if your on a budget... but you get what you pay for with them.

buy a amp that will over power your subs as well they can take more than they say.. and its better to have a large amp running less than a small amp running MAX.

good speaker wire and amp wires are a must.... thicker the better

twisted RCa cables (stinger) is the way to go as it really reduces all engine or static noise.

and ask for trade everywhere cuz they can all do it and most do when you ask

that how i would do it

or yeh monoblock or nothing when it comes to sub's

Run the 4" & front 6" of a 4 channel amp but run the 4s as though they where tweeters (hi pass only) and your 6" in the front doors as your mids the rear run off the head unit turnt down low so you can just hear them as you only need rear fill . the subs just bite the bullet and buy a decent mono-block amp (jay-car alpine etc).

get splitz

GO RAMPAGE BRO

preludes come stock with splits, so jess why are you running 4" speakers anywyz?

[quote name='Nichy' date='Apr 30 2009, 05:46 PM' post='1283988469']
run rears off headunit as the only reason rears should be in a car is for passangers in the back....

not true, rear fill is great, will get a better sound,

get a good decent priced amp for the front splitz with Good tuning options. ALpine jvc eclipse.... anything but sony lol

definatley go a good amp for the front speakers, and a reasonable amp for the subs,


buy a amp that will over power your subs as well they can take more than they say.. and its better to have a large amp running less than a small amp running MAX.

thats if you realy want mega bass, subs at full power will be stupidly loud mostly, you can underpower them if you want, just make sure you get them tuned

good speaker wire and amp wires are a must.... thicker the better

the thicker the wire the more expensive, just go with the thickness you need, otherwise you will be wasting money, 0 gauge wire for front tweeters would be stupid!! and 64 gauge for an amp would burn out pretty quickly

twisted RCa cables (stinger) is the way to go as it really reduces all engine or static noise.

so does running the wires properly,

and ask for trade everywhere cuz they can all do it and most do when you ask

Jess i will give you cost at JB, just make sure you ASK for me next time you come in!!!

or yeh monoblock or nothing when it comes to sub's

yep definatley, isnt worth the hassle running two amps, and if they arnt running right, the subs can cancel eachother out!!!

When I bought my car there were only 4" speakers in the doors and 4" speakers in the parcel shelf

Thanks for the advice and opinions, will take it all into account when making a choice

maybe the S model didnt come standard wit those options , did it look like it was all stock jess?

Can't remember to be honest, but doesn't really matter now, I've changed it all anyway ;-)

S type comes with splits in there. my tweeters r gone though, will be doing the 4" thing in dash of mine, have some 6" kenwoods to go in the front and 6X9 pioneers in boxes on the back seats (sound like a tryhard sub if in the boot. reason they in boxes is decent 6X9's have a decent sized magnet, which will not fit in the parcel shelf of 4th gen ludes, so jess, do not buy 6X9's for your parcel shelf as they wont fit, unless u play hacksaw with ur boot lid setup...

wonder y there were 4" speakers in urs Jess...?
mine had hektik xplod 6" ones in the back, they are the 3 way ones, and were falling aprt, typical xplod. need to get some spacers for some 6" pioneers for the back...stick the 6X9's in my daily (when i get it lol)

Nath she doesnt need dirty 6X9's if she has subs why ruin decent sound with 6x9's meh I dont know why people do it

exactly right... heaps better off to run some 6's in the rear... not only will it sound better, it will save you some money... 6x9's are more for those who arent going to run a sub, so they have something to fill that bass void left from no sub...

and they sound like poo lol

go fully sick rampage twins in the cardboard boxes they come in! its hektik as!

haha i got POS US audio sub in box, amp screwd to box. bouncing around in the boot. 2 rampage 6x9s in boxes jamed inbetween the rear window and parcell shelf, that come out when i slide. then i got 2 6" explods in the doors, revers mounted becoz the window rail was in the way. so the magnets stick out thru the door cards haha! but thats the bluey, goin a decent job for the supra once its on the road. all very decent. the bluey dont matter though haha

uh, was just saying don't get 6X9's cos they wont fit, ie. trying to give some advice... yes they suck, 1st hand experience talking there. however as uber sich doof doof isnt really a priority for me, i'm sure i'll cope with my 6X9's

Looking at buying JVC Monoblock & JVC 4 Channel

Will wait until I have re-carpeted the boot and built the sub box first, then I can decide where I'm going to put them and re-wire it all first

Cheers for the advice, 6"x9" won't fit in parcel shelf and 6" are good enuff for me seeing as though there will be 2 x 12" subs in the boot and no one ever sits in my back seat ;-)