Just thought this might be a good topic to give the truck load of people out there who love the aussie family V8 and actually want to make it unique some ideas just how to go about it.

My suggestion to a trades assistant the other day would be to fit a V10 of some sort then super charged/ turbo chargerd or both at least it won't be a V8.

if anyone has ideas fire away or just let this topic die

Id like to do up a panel van like back in the good old days but have airbags fitted

Remove 1 spark plug and have a supercharged 7 cylinder.

Aussie family car unique...hmmm you could make it reliable?

I've always wondered what dads XR would be like when it's twin-turbo'd.

I guess fitting a "rare" body kit, getting wheels that suit it nicely and a non factory color would make it look different.

Dad wants to fit 20's on the XR, but not those bling bling shit, wants sort of a racing style look to it. And a $5000 exhaust system is coming in pretty soon.

take 1 top of the range ve gts

take out motor, gearbox, electrics, brakes

crush commonwhore, sell to sims

use parts for a real car (pre 79)

done

quin once again just get out

turn around and just keep running till u HAVE to stop

Jason's idea is a nice one at that.

Tis funny, younger bro bought a vz sv6 with "monaro bonnet"

minute later he discovered he had a twin in our suburb

D&T will do that

aahaaahaha

and it will sound shit and produce less hp

i have a VZII S.
i always wanted to drop the roof 2-3 inches.
but would need to drop the seats a bit too.

gahhhh roof chops fail on anything post 1980 imo

Id love to get a m5 v10 in to my XR8 and make it XR10 but i really doubt it would ever happen

why not?

lazyness on my part and probably wouldnt be cheap

I'll probably get pwnd for this suggestion, and it wouldn't be worthwhile on a current model Commodore, but...

What about getting an early-ish Commodore (VB-VS) and ditching the V6/V8 and using a modern four cylinder motor? Obviously a four cylinder Commodore has been attempted before, and it was the fail (Starfire = bad), but it was proved that the concept could work with a Mitsubishi Astron II 2.6L engine.

As far as which engine to use, I can't think of anything from GM that would do the trick off the top of my head - the 176kW, 320Nm 2.0L HSV Astra motor could be used, but something of a bit bigger capacity and higher torque would be better. I'm thinking something around 2.5L with a turbo so it's still got good horsepower and torque, around 200-250hp, and 350-400Nm. That way it would match or better the V6 (and in some cases the V8), but with a modern all-alloy four cylinder, it would be WAY lighter, giving better weight distribution and therefore better handling, with greater acceleration than the factory vehicles.

Alternatively, a modern direct injection diesel four cylinder would be interesting, not so much for performance, but would definitely be different. The current four cylinder turbo diesels that are being sold by European manufacturers are amazing - how about a 2.0L turbo diesel BMW engine with 125kW and 340Nm? And performance wouldn't be too bad - the BMW 520D with this engine, which weighs 1520kg does 0-100km/h in 8.6 seconds. Not mind blowing, but not far off the pace of a V6 VE Omega.

Or if more acceleration is desired, how about a turbo diesel V6, like the 176kW, 500Nm 3.0L from the Audi A4? It weighs 1690kg and does 0-100km/h in 6.2 seconds. That should prove much quicker in an early Commodore.

take 1 top of the range ve gts

take out motor, gearbox, electrics, brakes

crush commonwhore, sell to sims

use parts for a real car (pre 79)

done




you have won my vote


p.s try a burnout without the water tonight

Get a xy, lumpy cams, huge holley, big zhorts dumped at the diffs, paint it a nice simple colour, and a nice set of 18"s and slam it,

Absolutely. Unfortunately, holden and ford are 5 years behind the rest of the world and that wont change.

The 3.0TDi Audi is a fucking great engine.

was gonna say if it had a pole in the side of it but no thats getting a bit popular these days

Why?



Yep that's where we went for that

an LS7 would go schweet in a commo.. hasnt been done to many times.. probly due to teh cost of teh motor me thinks.

haha who would have thought someone would put an LS engine into a commonwhore..??

outstanding stuff

LS in a Ford?

that'd piss the ford/holden fans off. kinda like a KKK member marrying an african american...

Leave it stock.

Saves you money and it's unique because every other man and his dog is wasting money/changing stuff to make theirs unique.

+ Everyone knows REAL stock HOLDEN motors do the best skids.

Indestructable.

its been done


pfft LS7, GMPP new LSX454 crate motor

There isn't much uniqueness happening in this thread, apart from mr cullen's crazy suggestion:P

i like the expression session in the latest street machine. there is a vn based hotrod there with no front guards, red firewall and lots of cool.

The other thing I thought of was using an LT5 in a Commodore. Probably hasn't been done before, but it wouldn't be that different really. Would be ideal if the LT5 heads could be used on an LS bottom end - probably can't be done though.

What about fitting about 10 JADO rockets in the back of a commodore and firing it into orbit.. that would pretty unique. Better yet, set it up in a decaying orbit, track it, then watch it burn up on re-entry.

I'll dontate the Commodore if somone dontes the rockets.

JADO? It is JATO.....

Jet
Assisted
Take
Off

verry much liking your style there shano

I'm still thinking how to make a Falcon or Commodore unique - body wise.

Something you don't see everyday, is a commo or XR with a supercar body kit driving on the streets. That would be something different, it's probably been done before, but I haven't seen one yet - maybe I spend too much time inside?

Another thing I've noticed with the Falcons, is the wheels. They look shit, no matter what's been put on. I've seen a blue Falcon with bling rims, another purple one with 20's up front and 22's at the rear, yet again, bling style. Even though the rims are bigger/wider, they still tuck in under the car too much. I don't know if this is what people prefer, but let's say a Falcon is fitted with 20's racing style rims - such as the ones pictured below, would they be able to be "pushed out" a little more? Just curious as I have never seen this done? Only times when a rim seems to look good on a Falcon is when it's either 17 or 18 inch, with dish.

what your referring to quin about pushing out relates to offset and width....
imo i reckon a failcon would look good with a set or work meisters or some other jap wheels, just for a change

I believe one of the moderators has himself a xr6t with some jap wheels on it.

i dont think u can get TE37s in 20 inchs

Yep, you can.

http://www.upgrademotoring.com/wheels/te37.htm

http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/volk-ra...43-p-35289.html

Even 20x11

any size, width and offset

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I reckon your on to something there Joe. Besides, some of the tidiest cars i've seen getting round lately have been completely stock from factory.

If ya really wanna make either one unique i reckon get a ute (either model) then chuck a worked 2jz in the bloody thing with super huge hair dryers and more chrome bits than a NASA space shuttle.

yeah i just wasnt sure, as i dont see the need for such big light weight racing rims on cars

Only used that pic as an example

Yeah, why I got rid of the 18's on my EG and put on some light weight 15's.

what about putting a fpv turbo 4L 310kw 565Nm,
in a VL

Thatll do the job.

You might be onto something there..... in a way.

I've always liked the idea of new tech in old school cars. Putting a Ford (FPV) motor into a VL (Holden) just doesn't seem right to me somehow. Putting a VE Clubsport V8 into a VL however, would be a whole different ball game, and would be totally awesome !!!!!

I don't think the FPV series have the same reputation (personal opinion) as the HSV series, therefor I (personally) wouldn't bother with the FPV - Falcon transplant, however, VE Clubsport V8 into a VY SS would be something different.

I dunno, it seems like these cars are totally shit in the modifying scene..... as far as body work goes.


Example:

To make a XR6 (yes I'm imagining dads car ) different I'd keep the original motor, but twin turbo it as I haven't seen this done before - it probably has been, but yet again I spend too much time on here Would also love to have the skills/determination to make my own XR body kit (and other models/makes)

1 your dads falcon
2 vr38dett (r35 engine)
3 convert to rwd
4 ????????
5 profit

3sgte in anything.. Besides Datsuns...

????

Your out of your mind mate, no idea.

One word for VT onwards Commodore ............... CONVERTABLE!!

Of course u would need to lose rear doors however the "hips" in the bodyshape would suit a ragtop conversion nicely.....mmmmm

And you could fill it with nubile bikini-clad babes also because I've never seen that in a Commodore either.

no point

Good idea though