I' m rebuilding Vh 253 as was wondering if anyone could help out with anything Cheers.

lol just lol.

You could maybe powerslide it but not with the anchor of a 253.

first a turbo would be a good start for the torque as well as a manual gearbox. shitty tyres and you'll be fine

cheers for the reply my big issue is i know fuck all bout engines, turbos etc. body work is my area. what turbo would suit it and what other mods would i need. thanks


a powerglide would be sick can ya get 4 speeds??

is this a pisstake?

vh and any of the commodores before vn had frickin awesome chassis for slideways action! y i found it soo hard to let go of my vl and vk. i do know theres a guy in sweden that has a black vh drifter! goes nuts!

mmmm not a power glide mate u need a manual


i wuld throw a 3540 or a 35r on it and a locker and it mite slide ok

iv personally got a gutted VN that im building for drift with an RB30 and form what iv been told, welding the suspension solid seems the be the way to go for sliding purposes.

dont always need an import to go drifting...... just their motors!

sorry, just to add to that info, obviously i have a VL xmember to fit the motor, but ill be jamming VR V8 control arms, brakes, and struts under it to kick out the front track for stability.

which in theory, should also fit under your VH guards, with GroupC flares of course, and that with VR coilovers would be a great combination. for the front end at least...

And theres no such thing as a 4 speed power glide, id be going manual if i was you

go with turbo rb30, turboing the old 253 will prove to be worthless

drive it off a pier and then buy a scuba diving boat and run drive charters to the sunken vn so you can make some money to buy a track car so you can have a turbod car and still be on your P's

why wont anyone take this idea seriously ive got a vb with a fullworked 308 with these cars i think at the end of the day it comes down to suspension set up as well as having enuff power to slide the heavy gurl around but i belive it cn be done just with the right advice so all your holden jokes and the like off^^^^^^^^^^^ keep it to your self and give the guy some helpfull advice to all those who have given helpfull advice keep it coming.

i have been and still on going ..building a vh drift pig im running a mild 308, m21 4 speed, vl 28sline mini spool diff(just a temp until my salsbury 355 is together), rear superlow kings, front selby superlows, with f**ked out shocks allround, rear strut brace, sem welded front and back strut towers, vn ss front brakes, vl disk brake rear, 15/7 pursuits and 215/60 on the front, 14inch 185 skid tyres on the rear, k-mac camber kit, manual steer rack..so far..it drifts but my driving is crap at the moment. i,ve been out to archy twice less problems each time tho.. its well possible.. hope that helps goodluck..

okay i know that alot off people dont think much of old school commodores and setting them up for drift.
Whats wrong with being different? Well i have my car on this site for sale i know that it has enough grunt under the bonnet to drift and i know that it also needs to be a manual was just hoping that some one on here would be able to give me some advice on setting up the susspension for drift it has pedders shortend shocks as well as super low kings on the front and lows on the back as well as a bt1 interceptor vl swaybar up front so yeah im just after some tips and advice incase my car does not sell as talent is going to waste also i thought it would be diff to see a vb commy drifting with the best of them also i know that weight is an issue so any tips there would be sweet how about steering lock so as to get more angle etc .

thanks for postive feedback and comments and any negative comments keep them to your self.
cheers

You dont understand - we're not being negative specifically due to it being a commodore, or even because its different. Its purely because as a drift car, it is impractical.

You dont see lots of import drift cars purely because they are imports - its because they are easy to setup up, well suited suspension and chassis wise, and because there is a huge abundance of cheap parts and experience to draw on for these vehicles.

fair enough but who is the judge on whats practical for drifting and whats not why be a sheep and follow the trend wen you can stand out with something diff. everyone gets skylines silvias etc im just after some advice on the suspension side of things etc thats all but if all else fails will end up being a sheep and following trend .

with the money you would spend on it to drift good... you could probly pick up a half decent s13 to slide around ......

seen you out there.
stiffer suspension will help you so much dude!
props on getting out there instead of just talking about it!




whats practical is judged on common sense. Putting stiff suspension and the parts associated with a drift car into an old holden is difficult/costly. Setting up the car in general is difficult/costly. Therefore it is not practical.

In regard to not being a sheep, grow up and stop trying to get attention. Your gunna suck when you start. the less attention you get, the better. once you can steer then think about standing out.

Man, being a jerk is fun.

well i used to compete in nz and i am good and no how to drift im not a newbie just starting out was there from the begining in nz along with justin rood and jarius wharerau was one of the first to own a drift spec a31 along with the two people that i just mentioned. so if you want to be a jerk then keep it to urself as i was just making a statement in that the drift scene is dominated by imports and i love my imports as well as muscle. it would just be good to see something different all good i will more than likely swap sell my holden for an import i just wanted some advice in case it does not sell.as im getting ichy feet and hands not being behind the wheel of a drifter. do you drift toy boy well if you do one day i hope that we battle bud then you will eat your words. no disrepect intendid bud. just dont like been judged you dont know me and do not know my drifting capabilities.

i do drift, but i'm pretty rubbish. would be keen to battle regardless
if you've been around then you should know all of what i said. it can be done, but it's not practical unless you're either going to do it on a low level just for the fun of it, or spend good time and money on setting it up.

sweet i know that it can be done was hoping somebody on this site would have some knowledge in setting the car up its so much more easy to set up an import been told heaps of ways to set my holden up however its all conflicting info but yeah no dramas bud ill get out there asap archy stadium drift then upwards and onwards cheers bud.

Honestly just get a set of high rate springs and a fat swaybar for the rear. Run some grippy tyres or youll be ploughing heavy from understeer, if you can get a higher ration steering rack that will help you a whole lot. Thats about as good as you will get without spending big bucks on conversions.
The biggest issue is that your technology in that car comes from a vehicle that is about 35 years old... shitty suspension geometry and not a lot of ways of upgrading it, without running a tubular suspension setup.
You'll only ever drift as well as your car can, and thats going to be your hinderance, not your skill. IMO, keep the VH as a streeter. im a big fan of VH commodores - the last of the chrome bumpers! Personally I have a VT commodore that will rip a great skid, but its no drifter and without a LOT of money, it never will be, so i keep it on the street and bought a cheap R31 5speed with a 3L motor to drift, and its a great car with only the minor mods i have done.

how does an m21 hold up with drifting? ive blown 4 of these behind a 253 and i mean rebuilt ones too...

obvioulsy not very well, if youve blown four of them.

my m21 was rebuilt to handle a mild 308 so it holding up ok but i've got a supra 5 speed convernion lined up for it.. i get my suspenion tunied at pedders capalaba they have set it up the same as a circuit car would be to help with the corning etc. i use a vh-vk manual steer rack as its turn-cirule is 10.2m thats the best turning any commy ever come out with.. im going to powersteering soon the best power steer turn cirule i,ve come across is vn-vp 10.4m.. i went with a commy because they are cheaper to set up.. mine owes me $1500 so far. thats starting with a 202 auto. if you go and put adjustable everything in them then the prize tag will differently go up..my car will be back out in a couple of weeks just fixing some shit upgrating feul system more welding etc. hope that helps..

im with maverick_drfda. why not be unique and run an oldschool commy. if i had the funds id run my vk for drifting. im all for the idea mate. go for your life and slide that VH.

Well it looks like you can go one of two ways, mate.
Practical, simple and cost effective results, or Unique, expensive, and a lot of hassle with unknown results due to low numbers of those cars being used for this purpose.
I would choose the car to suit the need, not just build it up because it happens to be what you have. Why bother, when you can get a 5spd R31 for $500? Just doesnt make sense to me.
But if you are dead set keen on making your VH a drifter, then just make some good power, and eliminate your body roll. Stiff springs and shocks, thick swaybars etc.
But remember that no matter what you spend, you will always still have outdated suspension geometry and a car with a sloppy chassis and body, built from a 35 year old design.
Personally i think the VH is a great looking car and the end of an era, id keep it on the road and keep it tidy! buy a pig to drift!

why not stuff vl stuff under it? use r31 coilovers and bits and peices, might need some modification but possibly the easiest way to go about it? might have problems with solid rear? anyone else can see any problems there?

only problem i can see is spending millions on it and ending up unhappy because you get shown up by stockish s13s who spent half the money, not knocking commodores i use to love them, but in my opinion there is a reason people use imports to drift, as said a million times before they are easy to setup and the chassis are much better suited to it.

Hope that helps...

There isn't anythg wrong with a commodore, bogans give them a bad name because they are cheap and thats all they can affod on there dole wage lol im currently buiding up a drift vp commodore and have faith in the old guy, y not have a challenge they might be big a heavy but nothing is impossible. yes imports may drift the best but i chose a commodore because its different. right all im running is the standard strut because coil overs are too expensive so im using a pedders lowered spring, kyb agx shock allround which has adjustable damping, i use a circuit strut top with up to -5 camble available, im running adjustable radious rods and nolathane bushes. i have a 28mm front sway bar and a adjustable rear, all the usall strut braces ect. really i have'nt spend a great deal of money well under the 3000 grand mark and yeah i think it will drift.everything is adjustable except for spring tention. power wise i will run a turbocharged v6 with the motor in the build now im hoping to enter sum of the practice drift days to set her up and c how we go. go the commy lol cheerss