hey all

I took my car in to get my rear brake pads replaced(yes i was been a lazy fuck)
they told me i need new brake rotors and to rebuild the rear calipers and the front isn't far of it.
i asked for a quote they quoted me $1,100 just to rebuild the rear calipers and replace the rotors
i was thinking get fucked.

So i figured this is the best time to upgrade to 5 stud and get bigger brakes.

I been looking around for kits and have found this one



My questions are:

What do you think of the price for what i get?

Do i need S14 lower control arms?
Some people are telling me i don't need them.
if i don't "need" them is there any difference in them?
If so the S14 ones would be better wouldn't they?
i found these quotes




Do stock R33 rims clear the front brake calipers?
if not how bigger bolt on spacers do i need?
whats the off set for the stockies?

how big is the nut holding the hub on?
(making sure i/we have the right tools before we start)

I was told i should use thread lock where i can?
what do you guys think?
any brand/type suitable?

I think his is all...


cheers for any help

i hope i have made this easy to follow


Edit:
This car may or may not me used on the road
This car may or may not me a track only car

you don't need the lower control arms, just the hubs. you'll also obviously need pads and discs. and you need to either mod the fuck outta your standard handbrake cable, or adapt other shit to work. yes r33 wheels will clear. s14/r33/maxima are the same wheel.

pads and disc's aren't they the same thing?

maxima wheels don't clear the front calipers due to the off set..... from what i know


can your please explain m about the hand brake.


Oh also i was told i should get S14 brake lines so they fit/work better? can you share some light on this/?

No, pads are what clip into your calipers and push against the disc to stop the hub and therefore the wheel.

I have a few Q's about the 5 stud conversion on an s13, I don't want to change the brakes at the moment I just want to run 5x114.3 wheels. So far i've gathered that all I need to do this is s14/s15 hubs and discs/rotors, and the process would seem to be:

Remove assembly, take to machine shop and have the original 4 stud hub removed and the s14/s15 hub pressed in hydraulically? Is that correct?

Then it's just a matter of putting the assembly back on, placing the 5 stud rotor on the hub and bolting it all back up again? Am I on track, or is my knowledge misfounded?

Any help greatly appreciated.

you can do the how lot at home.
you do need a custom hand brake cable if up grading the rear cailpers

the hubs have a single bolt that holds them to the knuckle.

usually ppl swap the whole knuckle/hub over for the front so you dont remove the hubs. The rear you remove the hubs but the rear doesnt require any special press to swap them over just a monster socket and a big breaker bar. *Think its 36mm? (havent broken an axle in a long time so cant remember)



The s14/s15 knuckles have slightly different taper in the mounting hole to the lower control arm ball joint. so if you use an s14/15 knuckle then you either need to make sure you mod it so it fits correctly onto the s13 lower control arm ball joint OR just fit s14 lower control arms. S14 lower control arms will add ~10mm extra track per side.

the twin piston rear calipers have a different hand brake set up and the single piston hand brake cables dont fit so you need to custom up a handbrake line to suit.

complete kit for $950 seems fair but its one of those things where if you find a clueless wrecker or some one parting out a wrecked s14 you could get lucky and get it a lot cheaper.

This is a good brake upgrade (specifically the front) and also 5 stud conversion gives you about eleventy billion more wheel choices. Definitely worth doing if you are thinking about it.

can you please tell us what brakes hubs and rotors bolt on to an S13?



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S13-S14-S15 rear brakes are the same so they all bolt on



S14-S15 front brakes and hubs bolt on



R33 front brakes and hubs bolt on



R32 front brakes and hubs bolt on



R32 GTR Rear cradle bolt on(also need the diff)-i am not to sure about this.

i have done this conversion

i recommend you also upgrade your brake master cylinder.


you can get a tool that helps pop the hubs off the ball joints, makes the job 1000 times easier

personally i would get the S14 ball joints pressed into the s13 LCA's to keep the stock track

thats one bonus with the nissan brakes is that most of it is the same pattern. z32 stuff bolts up aswell as gtr brembos. most of the calipers and rotors are very similar though. s14,s15,r32,r32gtr,z32 etc are all pretty similar/same. the r33 skyline rotors caliper setup is slightly larger than the silvia and earilier skylines.

any change from the standard s13 brakes to a 4 piston setup will be a huge difference.

use the front 5 stud hubs i sell make it a direct bolt on no fuss... look in my topics

seems to easy and to dear also an brake up grade would still work right?

i dont really get what your on about...

i dont have any rears available just use skyline ones

brake upgrade bolts on as per factory ... direct bolt on

since we are on the topic

do all the brake booster and master brake cylinder bolt on from skyline and s14-15?

and can i fit these items before i upgrade my brakes?

I *think* most of them are the same pattern and the boosters swap over, although dont quote me on that.

the difference is that the skyine / 4 piston master cylinders are slightly larger. Issue with running more caliper piston area with the smaller s13 master cylinder is that the brake pedal will have more throw and feel kind of spongey.

So by fitting the larger master cylinder with the smaller calipers it might make the brakes pretty sensitive.

On my car Ive gone 5 stud but only upgraded the front calipers to r33 and Im still running the s13 master. Brake pedal is a little mushy but really not that bad and feels good enough that I cant be bothered swapping in a larger master cylinder.