The power is sorted in my S14 (240rwkw) so now im about to order some suspension parts to start drifting my S14 at the local track.

Here is the list of mods planned so far -

Coilovers
Strut Braces
Castor Rods
Pineapples
Rear wheel spacers

Will this be enough to get me slidin alright, i know the mod list could go on and on but is there any other small things i should do, the budget is starting to get stretched already so i wont be modding the car to a D1 spec or anything like that.

that should be enough!

invest in a racing seat if you havent already.

pic of s14?

lsd will help alot

Fuel!!!

an aftermarket steering wheel would be ok to make sure its a round 1, but u should be fine with wat u got now

Coilovers
LSD
Tie rod ends/spacers
Alloy cradle bushes
Swaybars

The standard LSD will have to do for now.

Are the tierod end spacers what gives it more steering lock?

Yes the rack end spacers do help achieve more lock.

However a good LSD is more important than extra steering lock at this stage. As a beginner, you most likely won't even use ALL of your current steering lock, let alone the extra given by spacers.

So a standard S14 LSD isnt much good for drifting?

Nope. A proper 2 way lsd will do wonders. (expect to pay around $800-$1000 though..) Also make sure your cooling system is up to the job. Wouldnt worry about lock at this stage. A good durable Clutch is also a wise investment... But with 250rwk im guessing your ok in that department?

Oh ok, someone told me a standard S14 diff wouldnt be too bad.

Whats the difference between a 1.5 and 2 way LSD?

with a 2 way both wheels both spin at the same rate

with a 1.5 the inner wheel spins at half the rate of the outter wheel(correct me if its the other way around)

Fortunetly the budget does allow for a 2 way LSD, ive got a KAAZ item lined up through CJ motor on NissanSilvia

For the street you might be better off with a Nismo LSD but Kaaz are ok

depending on how much drifitng you are going to be do a bigger oil pan and a fuel surge tank would be a good idea so you engine doesnt lean out on fuel or oil while you are throwing the car around.

some stiff sway bars.

Go for some stiff coil overs like the TEIN super drifts if you have the money or HKS Hypermax III sport.

If your on a budget..and it sounds like you may be, then dont worry about the fuel surge tank..you wont need it as long as you head out there with a full tank of fuel. Just dont let it drop below a 1/4 of a tank else you may start having surge problems. And dont worry about the bigger Oil pan either LOL its not really necessary. Alot of guys run stock sumps without any dramas. Nissan sumps usually have the oil pickup pretty close to the bottom of the pan anyway. One Handy note is to check your oil levels when you pit. Nothing wrong with the Ol' Kaaz lsd's, there usually a good price too.

I hate to quote wiki, but I don't believe that's correct:


"If there is no additional coupling on over run, the LSD is 1 way. This is a safer LSD, as soon as the driver lifts the throttle, the LSD unlocks and behaves somewhat like a conventional open differential. This is also the best for FWD cars, as it allows the car to turn in on throttle release, instead of plowing forward. [1]

If the LSD increases coupling in the same way regardless of whether the input torque is forwards or reverse, it is a 2 way differential. Some drifters prefer this type as the LSD behaves the same regardless of their erratic throttle input, and lets them keep the wheels spinning all the way through a corner. An inexperienced driver can easily spin the car when using a 2 way LSD if they lift the throttle suddenly, expecting the car to settle like a conventional open differential.

If the LSD behaves somewhere in between these two extremes, it is a 1.5 way differential, which is a compromise between sportiness and safety. Generally a 1.5 way creates a stronger lock under acceleration than deceleration."

Yer ill go with the KAAZ lsd.

Im goin with HSD coilovers, HR model, they are a comprimise between street and drift, thats what i need.

What are some good quality for money Sway Bars and Strut Braces i should go with? where can i get them?

What about Castor Rods, are they necessary for a begineer drifter? what do they do?

Mods to start, for an absolute beginner, in this order should be

1. 2way LSD
2. Coilovers
3. Seat
4. Radiator
5. Castor rods maybe

Thats my opinion, but for someone learning you dont need shit like tie rods and lock spacers, or rear adjustable arms or any of that bullshit. Once you get some skills maybe look into the cradle bushes and swaybars.

But the above mods will get you hours of happy drifting.

Yeah ^^ pretty much in that order too.

handbrake button.

Instead of spending all your cash so that your car is shit hot then going out and hitting the track for the first time I'd be more inclined to say should just practise as much as you can. On the track of course...

That way instead of having spent all this money on parts, potentially not know what to do with, you can add parts as you find you need them. Some items such as coilovers would be a given. But just hit up the track, later on if you find you need more lock look into rack end spacers or whatever. What I'm saying is just have a go and then see what you personally need, not what you feel you should have in order for it to be a 'drift car'.

Well on my s14 I started with:

Cusco 1 way (as its a streeter)
Then alloy pineapples (they will shit the stock rubbers)
Apexi adjustable struts ( in it when I got it)

That was enough to get me on track and doing fairly well for half a dozen or so outtings.

Then went rack spacers & front wheel spacers to make the tyres clear.

Now i've been about a dozen times i've gotten all the adjustable rear arms to give it better grip and tyre usage.

Ron

ive been on track 2 times now and have tie rod end spacers giving me more lock and they have definately been a good mod. for $30 or whatever they you cant go wrong, get them installed and get a wheel alignment by someone that knows drift car setups ask them for a bit of a drift setup eg. bit of toe out for better turn in.

before i went out on track i did nismo 2 way, bride seat, coilovers and i belive im already exhausting just those mods, i believe i wouldnt have improved as much as quick without these.

make sure your handbrake is nice and tight cause mine was pretty much non existant first time out and i struggled a bit, but once adjusted i was killin it.

Nick

wow alot of people know nothing about diffs. A 2 way locks equally under both accell and decell a one way will only lock on accell and a 1.5 will lock fully on accell and partly on decell.

get it low and tight, a good clutch and go out slidin, alot of people talk no much doing....

lol yep.

coilovers and shim up your standard r200 or r180 diff.
perhaps a few thermo fans and a good service of the car including flushing the radiator and all oils.


treat it right and she'll do the same

I just reshimmed my stock diff and it is tight as fuck.Fine for a beginner in the wonderful sport of drifting. I would say get coilovers a good clutch lots of tyres and adjust your handbrake. You will use it alot. Do a good service on your car and hit the track as is. You dont need rack ends and shit like that. A good set of Sway bars prob from cusco or whiteline would be good. And i mean a full set being front and rear tower braces adn underbody sway bars to.


Then go out and have a fat time on the track.

The Kaaz LSD are good Im not disputing it but if the car is driven on the road they are very hardcore diffs, quite loud and with a 2 way the car will skip.

the Nismo ones dont and are much quieter.

Both do an excellent job at the track just the Nismo one is better for the street.



Coil overs - go for something like the GReddy Type S, TEIN Monoflex or HKS Hypermax III, they are all top class quality monotube coil overs that have a stiff enough spring rate for drifting while offering a decent ride on the street.

Don't forget the Tie Rod And Tie Rod ends - almost essential for drifting to stop bump steer and offer more lock.

Sway Bars - almost more imporant than the coil overs, and as far as handling on the street more so. Some stiff whileline bars can be adjusted for street, drag, circuit and drift.

Castor Rods - probably dont need replacing at this stage they offer greater straight line stability and braking which isn't as important in drifting.


Along with an LSD the top 3 will see you drifting very well, have fun

you need heeps of guages, not only do they tell you information they look really cool, especially if you have a passenger

Straight up ppl suspension mods are a waste of time other than a good stiff set of schocks and maybe rear camber arms pending on the rear camber, i had a s13 that i put a diff, rear camber arms and some coilovers in and some 17inch grippy as shit tires and i could put the car anywere i wonted, from experiance there is no need to go for more steering lock its the biggest waste of time, i never ran out of steering lock backing my car in to a corner and s14's have more lock than s13's stock, even those drift pineapple things are a waste of time in my opinion. What i would do- 1- Diff 2-Stiff shocks then use it and replace things as they brake.