I have attached the link to the QLD Transport legislation for commercial vehicles
It lays out the rules regarding wheel modification and lowering of vehicles.
Hopefully this will clear up some of the confusion about whether or not wheels can be used and should slow the amount of wheel threads

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/resources/...s_and_tyres.pdf

Hope this helps.

Nova

ATTENTION:

Changes to Light Truck Tyre / Commercial Vehicle Modifications

In Qld we can now legally put aftermarket wheels/tyres on 2wd commercial vehicles. This was released to the public on January 12th 2009. As long as the wheels and tyres are load rated to suit the vehicle then all is fine. If you want a passenger tyre to be fitted to your commercial vehicle then the max kg tyre load rating of the vehicle is to be multiplied by 10% (otherwise known as 1.1) which will give you the load rating in kgs required to use a passenger tyre construction on your commercial vehicle.

E.g. Original LT tyre load rating 104 = 900kgs

To legally use a passenger tyre you will need a 10% higher load rating than the commercial tyre (1.1 rule) = 990kgs

To legally use a passenger tyre on your commercial vehicle, you will need a passenger tyre load rating of 108 = 1000kg

Full details are available here: http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/resources/...ds_vehicles.pdf 

Thanks Nova.

Nathan

mm cheers

So my understanding is that they are still investigating if legislation changes will eb made.

Or is this just a open iinvestigation that will never be completed lol

DOT way of saying " Yes BUT No" answer

A good breakdown of that is on here..

http://www.roadsmart.com.au/laws/licensing...ions/index.html

Dated 2005. Surely there's been updates?




From what i read, only really applies to passenger vehicles.

That's correct.

Although it's a useful reference anyway for the rest of it.

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These are great. I especially appreciate the quick summary on vehicle modifications. I think we would all agree that, although it is within our rights to modify our vehicles as we see fit, it still is important to consider road safety. Both for our sake and other people plying the exact same road.

Thanks guys very useful.

http://www.roadsmart.com.au/laws/licensing...ions/index.html

... For under body lights, they cannot be distracting to other driver’s, this means you cannot see the source of the light...

thats a quote from under the lighting section of that site.. so you can have neons as long as they cant be seen?

yea but check the disclaimer at the bottem of the page....

next year it all changes
so i would warn you guys to hold off until we all know whats going on
been told reductions in load ratings will be allowed but cant confirm

That's correct.

However it's at a police officer's discretion as to what they classify as 'distracting'. So drive with them on at your own risk.

The disclaimer is there to cover the site's own backside.

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Changes to Light Truck Tyre / Commercial Vehice Regulations:



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Don't get all trigger happy you dip shit deathtrap ute owners with your flat brim hats.

The rims and rubber still has meet the MINIMUM specs that the manafacture specifys. Being a UTE, with a decent capacity, will be high. Rubber will be expensive...

not really...i got just got tyres for my rims...load rated and evrything...only $150 each (and no their not them cheap chinese ones)

and the best they said they had were only $250...much better than the $355 per tyre for my 4wd

LOL at twincam

are you in the gov.?
sounds like it assuming that every ute with mags is a deathtrap,


thanks for the info nova/rookie,
keen to put mine back on =] (yes all load rated, wheels and tyres)

Anyone here know about 185/195 R14 Tyres? They are load rated at 100/106. So I am mean't to go off the 106 load rating when going bigger tyre?

Hi, I'm new to this so go easy
I have been looking into replacing the stock wheels on my single cab Ford Courier, i was hoping to upsize to a 18'' or 19'' chrome wheel from my 15'' steel stock.
I spoke to a guy at Bob Jane Tmart about upsizing my wheels and he said (refering to these new lwas) that although changing the wheels are now legal (provided you comply with the load ratings) upsizing my rims anything past 16'' would be impossible as no tyres are made to fit such rims with high enough load ratings.
Does anyone know if this is a fact or if you can actually find such wheels to fit larger rims and are still load rated.
all information would be greatly appreciated
thanks

u must be a wanted man the way u talk about ppl as soon as u mention twincam16 to anyone that go,s on boost they all say the same thing, that u r a keyboard basher and if they ran into u in the street

but this is awsome for the minitruckin boys

its not the rims that are the problem when you go over 16inch wheels as there is plenty of rims with high enough load ratings. its finding tyres to suit the load index in a size that will fit in the gaurds of australias 2wd utes. the smallest tyre in a 17 which is really the largest you can go as this tyre is on the limit to fitting properly is a 235/55/17 it will fit but will probably scrub on occasions.

more rims/tyres with the correct load rating are made in a 14,15,16inch variety from the large wheel/tyre brands. for a set of 16inch advanti load rated wheels with the correct tyres is usually like $1200ish. go into a 17 and the price jumps a lot as the tyres can be anywhere from $250each.

-tyler

thankyou tyler very helpful !

I have a set of 20's with 99 load rated Pirelli P-zero tyres. I have 285's under the rear and 245's under the front. Rims are 40 offset. No wheel spacers, No scrubbing at all and no wheel hanging out front or rear. Mind you my hilux is not on it's guts either.

correct me if im wrong...but sure thats the right load rating you need?

every ute iv seen would need at least over a hundred...

i dont know if this is true but a mate of mine told me that as of Jan 09 any commercial vehicle could have any size wheel as long as it doesnt affect the speedometer eg: it came with 14'' wheels and you decided to put 20''

Wrong. Read the update at the top of this topic, it covers the new legislation

No your not wrong. I should have 107's to match the load rating of the tyres fitted originally. Not quite legal but close enough for me. 99 load rating is high enough in reality. That's 775kg per tyre. That gives me a rear axle weight of 1550kg. Total vehicle weight unloaded is 1370kg for the vehicle. With only 460kg unloaded over the rear axle and 1460 loaded, I should have 90kg up my sleeve (if I ever actually loaded a ton in the back).

yeah thought so

i have to say i completely agree with what you said though

what is the laws on airbag suspension? can anyone tell me?

This is example is grossly misleading.

On the door jamb of a 89-96 hilux 4x2 ute, there is a tyre placard. On it , it says, min load index of 93

which is about 650kg.

So in the case of an 89-96 hilux the rating would only have to be 715kg (650x1.1)
There are many passenger tyres in large sizes and thin profiles that would fit the bill.

So don't go off commercial tyre ratings, go off your tyre placards!

You can use airbags, only to "assist" a standard suspension system. The unmodified stock leaf springs have to be left in there and the bag is mounted between the axle housing and the chassis rail (where your bump stop is located)

but there is a loophole. You can have a full bag set up just like the other states, but you need to prove it is intended to be used for the likes of assisting handicapped persons. If it's all blinged up with rims and paint, there's no way it will pass.

Here's a transit van I spotted in stockholm, sweden. It was used for moving people in wheelchairs.

im pretty sure there laws over in sweden are alot different to in australia.

www.tubularsuspensionsystems.com seem to know there stuff when it comes to air bag suspension. have a read on there site or email them

No shit dick tracy. Let me guess, you go there on holiday every year right?

If you took the time to read my post, you would understand that the picture was put there as an example of the type of vehicle that could be allowed on Qld roads according to Qld legislation.

Why don't you do a bit of research before shooting your mouth off.

eghhh. ok. im kinda new at all this stuff. but i have an 06 hilux and I cant quite get the gist of all this. is it saying that if I can put on any wheels and tyres i want as long as it complies with the load ratings?

pretty much. though i think it said something bout if your using passenger tyres etc then you must follow the 1.1 rule. couldn't be bothered reading it again

Thanks for sharing the info, mate. This will definitely save us from future hassle and, possibly, arrests.

Should edit away the old legislation if the new one is differnt?

just confusing that the gov thing says you cant have aftermarket rims but you say the new legi is out, but not linked.

and is within the size requirements

can any one tell me this i'd be great if they could, i own a wb one tonner and am doing ALOT of research into this and i want to run 315 50 r 15's on the ass on 15 x 10 rims, load rated at 105 or around that which is 900kg, and being pre 85 or around there the weight load is the gvm divided by 4 meaning i only need 650 per wheel... is says on the qt site that The following sub-sections outline the legal requirements for replacement rims and tyres fitted to a passenger car or derivative, or an off-road passenger car (but not light commercial), which will ensure your vehicle continues to comply with Queensland legislation while allowing for your individual preferences. in the sub sections it states that the tyre must not be more than 1.3 times the manufactorers width from factory so does this mean i can run my 315's or 295's as its slightly more in my price range haha legally as it only came out with 195's.....???

No it will be illegal. If you check the link in the first post it says clause '(b)(i)' applies to commercial vehicles regarding tyre width. Which is 1.3 times the original width as you stated.

However I reckon you'd have to be pretty unlucky to get caught for that.

Can anyone tell me why you couldn't start a new thread?

I think his question suited the thread, so what's the problem?