never run a 1/4 before and was just wondering about something. can my wheels be turning before i get the green light if i'm crossing the line ??????

I dont understand , can you explain that a bit better please

he wants to know either can he be doing a skid at the lights OR ! can he get a run up answer is no and why would you want too ?

no if my car is still but my wheels are spinning. my cars an auto

The strat line beams work off your front wheels so if the back ones are spinning it is technically not going to affect the timers. Is that what you meant? I am still struggling to understand here. Most drag cars are auto's !!!

yeh thats what i'm saying, is there a rule saying i can't do it. my car has standard auto no stally.

I think I know what you mean.

Mal, you know when you see commodores or falcons (these are the main cars I have seen do this) come into to stage, one foot on the brake, one foot on the accetarator, start to build their rev's up and their rear wheels start to turn. Not hugely just enough to turn not dkid or move the car

Our VN used to do this and did not affect anything as Mal said, the staging beams go off your front wheels alone

but its pointless why do it ? its not going to improve your et other wise if it did i wouldnt have got a 4200 converter and trasbrake built c4 i would of jsut stuck witht he 4l60 and shift kit ...

I beg to differ.

Leaving the line with revs rather than just driving off will drop your ET. Case in point, my old AU ute I had, drove off and got a 16.7

Left with revs under the belt and got a 16.3, pathetic times yes, but thats besides the point.

i agree launching at 2500rpm is obviously gonna be quicker than 1000rpm (or under).

I think you guys are missing the point.....if your wheels are turning before you have any forward momentum you are only going to make it harder to get any. While there is always a percentage of "tyre slip" factored into a good launching car, there is a reason you don't see ANY Group 1, 2, 3 or 4 drag car doing what is being discussed!

Spend the money & get some stickier tyres & a slightly higher stall converter.

buh bow ! wrong haha its called a converter it will flash up to that stall speed witha big mash .. example my rig on an 11 psi tune 11.80 with a 4800 transbrake launch on PUMP fuel and a 11.90 driving it off the line now you cant compare a transbrake to stalling it up ont he foot brake but you get the idea theres not aot in it its pointless .. IMHO if you boys are running the times you are and wnat to make the times better.. spend the dollars ... jsut my opinionbut hey who am i to tell any one how to race i only crew on a group 2 car...... and 3 st289 cars..

i'm sure you know alot about drag racing good cars. of course a stall converter would be faster but its just common sense (in my car anyway)

My advice is stall it up but don't let the wheels break traction - Everyone laughs at the cars that have a sad little line lock going at the lights before they leave the line.

Best advice of the thread.
garthkate, any benefit your car has from leaving with the revs higher will be nullified by the time you lose having the tyres spinning.

Just go to the startline, stage the car, press the brake has hard as you can and then push the accelerator slightly, then slightly more, as much as you can without the car creeping forward or having the tyres spin. Once you work out this sweet spot you will be getting good times consistently.

I've seen a car doing that at the drags. I think it might have something to do with the guy driving getting out of 12 months home detention for ecstasy dealing that week and hadn't quite got the hang of his new 200sx.

sorry offtopic but is auto DEFINITELY faster than a man trans down the 1/4? couple ppl at my old work seemed to think man was faster and i cudn't b fucked telling them otherwise

How do you figure that?

its not soo much that its faster ... its jsut alot ALOT easier to get down and better for changing .. i.e no clutch no drop in revs not a great deal of movment in the shift autos are better upuntill you start runing things like lenco and liberty shifted transmissions like prostock cars and other droup one cars then you get to the top of the tree with top fuelers which have 2 speeds forwards and backwards... and its all about timing the clutch plates to come in at the right time withthe right amount of pressure.. imho auto much faster for a street car with a reescpectable amount of power

Autos are better for drag racing. as consistancy will get you the win in bracket racing, not power.
obviously autos are more consistant with no room for error. Launch at same revs, change at same revs then it just comes down to the reaction time.

on the man/auto thing im pretty sure the group 1 cars are manual and they dont run a clutch and the gears are run through compressed air somehow but not really sure aye

just thought id throw that in there

i know some or all of the b&l cars run like thiss