Well the response in the paper has been rather good, only few negative people with the single mentality that all car enthusiasts are hoons.



Hoons dominate SMS messages

http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2007/09/28/2168_ntnews.html

Re jeff on hoons. Hidden valey race track has been opend to streetcars 4 years. Beat the heat 4 drags. North australian motor sports club run lap sprints and streetcar shootout events 4 track events. http://www.namsc.org.au. Simon, palmo

Its a shame that these young guys get labelled hoons no matter what they do. There is a difference between a hoon and a car enthusiast. One is an offense (and offensive), the other is a hobby. Tim

I told the journo i was joking bout the 'beating all commodores' thing but it didn't go in print. Sorry rattler =) ed, jingili

Bein one of the 'hoons with hearts of gold' i was unhappy bein labeled a hoon. We try to break the label barrier by being responsible. Zac, virginia.

Its fantastic to see true car enthusiasts coming together for a great cause, its just a shame they had to be labeled hoons and their wonderful story being related to the tragedy that was caused by true hoons, a label the people in the charity cruise do not deserve. Fantastic work to the group of kind hearted car enthusiasts. Bravo. Alex, Alawa.

Turbo stuart park. My thoughts exactly mate. 2 many car enthusiasts get lumped in with the idiots. Dave tiwi

How is it that everyone that drives a car is a hoon?

So is the editor goin to preach for financial penalties for ALL crimes to be in proportion to what he is advocating for so called hoons? I doubt it! There is no concept of proportional justice in aus!

Hoons young'n'old... I couldnt count the times ive been lined up 4 a street race. NAMSC open the hidden valley race circit once a month to poor #s i dont recon 2mny could beat me and my 253 vh hldn take it off the street/ carl CBD

Woohoo, thats me thats me!!

Its great to see the other people of the community also disagree with the 'big brush of hoon labels'.

Great to see some people aren't caught up with all the BS the paper prints.

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im a hoon and proud of it

Thats OK Hotrodders get the same thing "Hotrod crashes into public" and was a HJ Holden......
Hoon is the media's new HOTROD term

For those who are interested technically a Hotrod is a PRE-1948 vehicle extensively modified from stock usually american originated but not totally nessesary.
Just keep on the media's back and apolite phone call regarding a little education goes a long way...... vehicle enthusiast Vs hoon etc......

lets face it....we will always be veiwed as hoons. recent media coverage proves it,no mater what we do or how much charity fundraising we do.we will always be hoons. it sells the paper,makes news headlines and gets all the do gooders ranting about us.when was the last time a rx2 or old holden monaro wrapped around a power pole made headlines??????/ never! but a 16 yr old in dads commy drink driving with the car packed full of his buddies crashes,resulting in a death....bang automaticlly they were hoons....NO THEY WERENT, THEY WERE DICKHEADS THAT GIVE ALL OF US CAR ENTHUSIASTS A BAD NAME. my 2 cents worth.

With you on this one!!
Proof in last week paper where some fools hit a ute parked at the Coolalinga United servo. Papers front cover read hoons, truth is they were all 17 and 18 year olds pissed from a rugby grand final after party!!!!

thats true. i guess a hoon is someone being stupid (or disturbing the peace) whilst NOT under the influence of anything

but eh. you get that..... tina kanis

hoon
Austral./NZ informal
• noun a lout.
• verb behave like a lout.

and according to Wikiepedia - The term "Hoon" was first used in Australia at the turn of the 20th century where it referred to a man living off immoral earnings [1] (i.e. a pimp). The origin of its current usage is currently unknown but is widely believed to be a shortened form of "hooligan" [2]. In more recent times it has been used to describe any young male or female who drives in a manner which is anti-social towards the standards of modern day society. Generally, a hoon is any person who drives any vehicle dangerously and/or fast.

Would reporting facts irreponsibly or in a manner that offendes responsible car owners and enthusiasts constitute the phrase 'journalistic Hoons' perhaps........? Na, dont go there hehehhehe just being mischievous.

Guys, its a battle we cant win...catchy or frivilous headlines are used to get public attention so they buy papers. Its something we gotta live with I am afraid. By knee jerking with responses you simply continue to fuel the fire of public debate and help sell papers.

Now THIS is hooning....!

Check out this site...http://www.barstoolracing.net/images/Simons5.JPG

The ultimate motor racing thrill.....the Harley powered stool is good but the jet powered one gets my vote!

hahaha trust carl to say something like that but it is a damn quick car

marks comment above

fantastic, and love the video's

"Generally, a hoon is any person who drives any vehicle dangerously and/or fast."

I'm a hoon on my pushbike. which is my vehicle and no one seems to complain about it too much

You should see the mad skids marks at TDZ lights.... traffic lights cleaned the fuck out

i saw that today.. idiotas.

Who cares what people think now it is evident that people will always be against us so it doesn't matter just keep up with the charity ideas and see where it goes but dont expect big things.

As for the lights at TDZ i hope they got what they deserve police wize

actually olskool a hotrod is a glass bodied trailer bitch that only gets driven from the ramps to the hall holding the show and shine. on the other hand... a street rod is a PRE-1948 steel bodied vehicle extensively modified from stock and driven daily

but if you read the definition of a hoon , it means that cops are hoons when they 1: speed down the road 2:Loud noise's coming from the car 3: Flashing lights as well as sponser stickers all over it (self sponsered)

No there just doing there job when you call them in a emergency....

it was a sarcastic comment , they provide a public servie which conforms to the very nature of a civil society.

^^yeah wot he said.

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"I think hoons are getting a bit of a bad rap," he said.

I think that should read car enthusiasts are getting bit of a bad rap.

Still labeling us with the hoons out there.

that is true. but its been mentioned so many times that until the track GETS more support from us and other enthusiasts, we wont get more support from open days at the track.

it is expensive to run, which is why the track days are expensive. although i think its definitely more costly doing it on the street now with the higher fines and the demerit points.

look it it this way... at least hey are not calling us coons

[quote]The NT Government loves motor sports," he said.

"We have recently upgraded Hidden Valley, the Speedway and the Karts facilities."

"We support various motorsport events including the [b]V8's, PowerCruise, Crusty Demons and the drags."[quote]

Why is it that the govt always looks at the big picture??

Is it because they are a money hungry bunch of mofo's, and unless it's a big event, and they dont get money or recognition for, they're not interested??

Maybe they should have a look in their backyards for a change, and start fixing some problems instead of whinging about them. On a smaller scale that is.

thats very true......

did anybody read the story in todays paper about you tube. JUST LIKE TO SAY GOOD ON THE IDIOT WHO WAS DUMB ENOUGH TO BRAG TO THE PAPER . YOU ARE A REAL DUMB ASS MATE..... some ppl just dont think !

what a nong. i don't think he's going to have much fun next time he's out. you don't actually see that many white XF falcons out cruising.

Do any of the police cars up here have Video recording/monitoring? like they do in the US?

i'm pretty sure they do. there was a big deal about it when it was fitted.

a friend of mine haha, at least he did it for the right reasons, and didnt give anything away, the person at the NT News contacted him actually



that particular car was actually wrapped around a pole at 200km/h
so you wont see it around anymore

good. not really helping with the whole hoon debate though.we dont need negativity like that in the paper.ppl like him is the reason we get all the hassles. its 1 thing to do it but then tell the paper how often it happens. thats what they want.
yeah they may have contacted him,but A NO COMMENT would have been better,instead of feeding fuel to a already hot fire.

hope no-one was hurt when he wrapped the car.
also hope it was a wake up call for him.

i do not encourage/promote illegal street hooning.

Did it for the right reasons? You mean whinging that Hidden Valley is too expensive? Perhaps if he used the correct figures of <$90 rather than the $150 quoted, which of course becomes exponentially cheaper when you go to the track more than once and purchase year insurance and membership. And of course, seeing as this champion has stated that it happens 'every night of the week' sometimes, he should have no problem getting down to hidden valley once a month, which as I have already outlined, makes it much, much cheaper.
To his credit he didn't completely shoot the collective car community in the foot, but gawd dammit, feeding the sensationalist crap of the NT News like this is not what we need.

actually the price was inputted by the Lady from NT News, theres an underground, so what??

99% sure the patrol cars are fitted with such devices.

I've heard (know) of someone being caught with evidence up here.

i wonder if burnouts kill as many people as smoking....drinking (alcohol abuse)..... both of which are taxed by the government....

maybe we would be able to thrash our cars if they create a "hoon" tax???

some of our "hoon" tax bills may be a litle high tho.....

people choose to drink. you can also choose to walk away from someone smoking, reducing the damage. you have no say if someone looses it around a corner and crashes through your house, or if you are waiting at an intersection and someone cleans you up.

fuckin hoons.

we'll all just have to vote for labour as the paper said so we get a burnout pad that'll be locked up 99% of the time

being available only 1% of the time is still better than nothing!!!

easy tiger.

after reading an email today the burnout pad wont be of any use to me anyway. miss incubus and myself maybe moving very shortly.

about bloody time the gov. coughed up some money to give us something we actually need and want

I apologise if your mate did not misquote the cost of racing at Hidden Valley, another example of crappy journalism I suppose.
In regards to 'the underground' ...... roflezcoptahlawlrus .... I hardly call clowns doing skids an underground.

If your mate is interested in getting down to the track and honing his driving skills I have no doubt there are plenty of people that will help him out. To get started head to www.namsc.org.au and follow the links to check out pricing and requirements.

Well there was a thing on the news today about quite a few I think fatal crashes on the weekend in VIC.

They showed quite a few, saying how people had died, but only once did they mention age, and that was when 3 people were involved in a crash that we aged under 22.

There was a lot more crashes but the ages weren't even mentioned.

So yet again the press making big story about when people under a certain age have an accident and perish or just have an accident, unlike the large amount of people over that age, but don't get much of a mention.

12 deaths over 4 days. 5 under 25's in that lot.

what about the children and babies that can't adam. I hate this argument, cause personally the amount of people that die of other cause that the government tax's it doesn't even come close. put it into perspective.

People in other country's have over 100000 people die each year on the roads

so what's a 1000 compared to the amount that die of skin cancer, smoking / drinking related deaths


and kudos 2 mark doing the work he did for the track, but i wont vote for them for that reason, not on my life!

and to come down to the track and say if u vote for us we will do this! but i guess that's how governement work!

ah, you've got me there.

other countries may have that many die every year. but nt has a pretty high ratio.

Didn't we work out in another thread that the majority of road deaths in the NT is caused by drink driving, particularly on dirt roads?

If thats what you wish for it yes, but im sure that the facility's will be up for hire like the rest of the hidden valley complex, on the same terms as they are now.

What's to say a club similar to TEDA may be formed for skids, and have regular skid days/burnout comps???

I dont understand why ppl have to be so negative about positive changes

Im the Idiot who the article was written about, i now realise what a stupid mistake it was, i was a bit drunk at the time i wrote her the email but that aint an excuse, as usual the reporter went and mixed around everything i said anyway, i didnt tell her how many time a week we go out in numbers all i said is that we go out whenever we feel like it, and i wasnt saying that hidden valley is too expensive, i was just stating that it only happens once a month and the price was added in by the reporter. I used to race at the track in clubsport 16 and 1 day hope 2 have a race car of my own, that video of the xf wasnt me driving, and i think the government should concentrate more on drink driving and the more serious matters rather then picking on the easy targets such as hoons and taking away the open speed limits.. i know im gonna get the shit ripped outta me but thats fine, i wanna hear what you's all have 2 say about what i've done...