Hey guys

just brought myself a 89 Landcruiser troopie, Its bog stock. Just wondering wat sort of mods i should get done before going four wheel driving at saw city veiw and stuff

I am saving for 33inch Muds and rims atm

Fanki man go a 2" lift, not really much bigger, being a troopie its already top heavy. depends on how seriously you want to get over stuff, atm you would be able to do a little bit in it, although obviously with the 33's and lift would be able to do more. Buy a snatch strap though man, $75 and some proper shackles so if you get stuck either out there or somewhere else, you can get snatched out. Nothing worse than going somewhere and not having a snatch if you get into trouble.

i can more in my patrol with 31's and standard suspension than most my mates can in their cruisers with muds and lifts. dont get me wrong im getting a 2" lift very shortly, just gotta put my new winch in first

you should be able to tackle quite a bit, however its only gonna be as capable as the person behind the wheel. tag along to some of the meetings and get the feel of it before you throw money into it. i have a pretty stock feroza and havent been left behind as yet.

Let us know when you want to go out fanki, ill come out if im not doing anything

I definately need some kind of wheels atm the has stock 16inch split rims with narrow as mud and snow tyres i think.

Anyone know of anything cheap let me know

I also have some 18 alloys off a Pajero i tried to fit but offest wasnt right they have near new yokohama rubber if anyone knows of someone that would want them

fanki www.outerlimits4x4.com man, heaps of good info and shit for sale on there cheap

www.downunder4x4.net/forum
alot of friendly NO BS advise


your best bet is a suspension lift
some sliders to protect your sills and 31 or 33's with a MT tyre and if your rich get yourself "locked"

good luck trying to buy 4x4 tyres for the 18",there from an import pajero. better of selling them to a minitrucker, bolt straight onto rodeos and tritons etc

im always keen for a bash so pm me when your heading out.

How much u reckon could get for the 18's without the tyres take tyres to tyre shop for a trade in

let me know how much you want to sell the pajero rims. my mate has a triton and is looking for rims.

You guys recommend Body or Suspension lift first? I was originally think bout Suspension but they aint cheap. had one quote for 2000, I found 2inch body lift For around the 200.

get body lift

my 2" susppension is guna cost me $998

well my old cost me 1500k thats parts and labour

or my new ride 2inch lift 4-500 if i do it myself
whats stopping you from buying the parts and spending a weekend or day replacing the old stuff it aint that hard you know


thats what i got planned this time round.

Just remember to buy lengthened brake lines if your doing the body lift Fanki lol

Get suspension Lift First because then atleast you get a better ride and actual travel to keep the wheels on the ground, not just clearance for tires, You can fit 33" mud tires with standard suspension and you wont have any troubles anyway.

Rancho Shocks are the best either the RS5000's or RS9000 adjustable.

Anyone recommend a place to buy the suspension lift components and what i'll need i wanna give it ago myself.

Also advice of doing diff breathers

ARB,TJM etc etc. look under the yellow pages my friend

the last ones I priced were around $350ea in a highway terrain, and that was 285 wide. The rims are only 7" wide so the will be too narrow for the tyres.





you can buy components from any 4x4 store, id reccomend on track 4x4 in moss street. they done bodylift on my surf and there has been no probs.

before you buy id join outerlimits4x4.com and ask what people are running and how they find them, you will get really good advice from there from people who have used it and not trying to sell it.

easy to do diff breathers, just buy universal fuel filter from supercheap and some rubber hose the right size and run it up to your engine bay, use the filter in the end of the line to stop dust and shit.

Fanki

dont buy your stuff from ARB or TJM etc..they will just sell you overpriced gear..get onto some secondhand stuff or i will ask around for you ...being leaf spring higher lifts arent always better as some just use heavier springs to get lift..these wont flex at all and will leave you with wheels in the air and going nowhere.. it will actually be worse than standard...there is so much different stuff that you can do...

if you want a good reputable retailer then call Ryan, Jamie or Dave B at Fourbys 07 3892 2766 and tell them i said to look after you...

air lockers wil cost you arond $1000 a pop and $300 for the compressor, auto lockers (similar to a detroit) will be around $400 a pop the only disadvantage being you cant turn the lockers off like you can with air lockers

get some sliders to protect your sills (i make these along with all other types of barwork etc)..



carrols springs at Wacol are the gurus..take the car in there and tell them what you want the car to do and they will tailor something to suit you...if you go for a really soft leaf spring then you will need a track bar in the rear to prevent axle wrap (the diff twists under torque and will banana the leaves) although these style of leaves are only really used in comp trucks and i doubt they would recommend that style for your truck

with the diff breathers just run the hose up into the engine bay for the front one and as high as you can get it for the rear one (even into the engine bay as well is best) and make sure you keep the hoses clean...disconnect them (from the diff end)every now and then and blow them out with compressed air

if all else fails do what i did and get yourself one of these

dave

diff locks are gay IMO, because once they are in, you either have an open diff or locked diff, no LSD effect at all, so you pretty much have to use them all the time, at least with a auto locker or LSD it's always there, get a winch before lockers anyway

i have a 2wd f100. i put a detroit easy locker in it. this was probably the best mod i have made. if one wheel has traction, i go forward. factory lsd's, particularly toyota ones, lose their lsd effect quickly. you can shim them up tighter, and they don't work too bad. what about spending some money on fuel, and seeing where it will go ? this will soon identify what you need to change.

thats why you would get an air locker

Why the hell would you get a winch before a locker? Chances are he would only use the winch maybe 10 times in its whole life, whereas a air locker he could use everytime he went out. Much better to spend the money on the airlocker first in my opinion.

an airlocker will get you more places than a suspension lift or wheels and tyres will.

of coarse he's going to use lockers more, because once the lockers are in there is no LSD effect at all, so he has to use them, did you not read my other post at all. and you get a winch before a locker because if you are in a bog that you got into and lockers can't get you out how do you get out? a winch perhaps

Lol. Completely out of context there mate. AIR LOCKER. As for the winch scenario, either use a snatch or a hand winch, half the cost, less wank factor. Have a chat to a few shops, guys who have been around for a while will tell you they will take a hand winch over a electric winch any day of the week.

what if you are by yourself, are you going to pull yourself out with a snatch. and i think i'd prefer an electric winch over a hand winch anyday. and how is a winch wank factor, i think your the wanker here

Rofl. Of course you do. Bit lazy are we? Of course your not going to pull yourself out with a snatch you illiterate tool, bit hard to do when theres no other vehicle. But then if your stupid enough to try to do a bog crossing without another vehicle present to help you out, thats your own issue. Hand winches are multi purpose, can be used to shift a vehicle forwards, backwards and also sideways. I dont see your lazy ass electrnic winch being capable of that, do I? Oh hang on a sec, if you mounted a winch on all sides of the car, then you could! Yay for laziness and complete waste of money!

i was being sarcastic when i said about snatching yourself out knob, actually yes my winch can move me sideways and forwards, and yes theres a setup on overlander forums to winch backwards too. and another advantage is the fact you can drive and use the electric winch at the same time, can't see your piece of shit hand winch doing that, unless someone else does it, thats nice and safe isn't it. and i can do a bog crossing without another vehicle, do you know why, cause i have a winch. i think your just too cheap to spend money on recovery gear. head up north to the gulf and see how many times it takes before you get sick and tired of using the hand winch

Jesus you really are full of yourself arent you? If your heading to the gulf, you build your vehicle to the conditions. This is not the gulf mate. This is Fanki. Fanki wants to go 4wding. Fanki doesnt want to try to drive a mud bog thats over his bonnet, drive up the side of Mt Tibrogargan or drive cross country across the Sahara desert. Suggestion still stands, AIR LOCKER OVER WINCH. Your suggestion has no merits for what he wants to do so i suggest you crawl back into that mud hole and wallow there for a while.

I KNOW HE'S NOT GOING TO THE GULF, YOU STARTED AN ARGUMENT ABOUT HAND WINCHES AND ELECTRIC WINCHES, SO I ARGUED BACK, AND GIVE FRANKI SOME REASONS WHY IT'S AIRLOCKER OVER WINCH, a winch will get you out of more trouble then your stupid air lockers will any day, i havnt seen any reasons why air lockers are better yet, are you going to fill me in

Seriously mate its like a broken record. an Air locker will suit what Fanki wants to do, more than what a goddamn winch will. He wants to drive up hills, not winch up them. Can you comprehend that mate, or are you just going te retailiate with another bout of "broken record" syndrome?

so you have no real reason why lockers would be better than a winch? your the one repeating yourself, airlocker over winch, air locker over winch, airlocker over winch, wheres some reasons why?

didnt think this would happen but i actually agree with HSV here... for what this fella wants to do, air lockers are a much more viable option over a winch... yes each have their advantages but in this situation airlockers would prove to be the better option because of his use... buy gear that you will use... not gear that you bought just to say you have it and then only use it on rare ocasions...




air lockers will more often than not get you out of situations that could require a winch... although lockers make the 4wding experience that much easier and more adventurous...

i still have no reasons why an air locker would be better, did i also mention a winch is cheaper

practicality mate... think about how often you are going to use a winch when 4wding and how often you are gonna use your air locker...

My dads had to use a snatch to rescue him in his tow truck many times ... lucky for him there's always a tree around I guess.

This thread just seems to be a means for someone to argue ... time.