hey all, was in town last night and was going down the road towards jetty surf to turn up to go to hungry jacks, (at about 10:45pm) and happened to go through an orange light just near jetty surf, i would of stopped but i didnt realise it was orange untill i was just near the line, and i got pulled over and booked 3 points and $80 for "failing to stop at a yellow signal"...now can one person here put their hand up and tell me this is fair? because i sure dont think it is, thinking of desputing it, needing some help on what to say if anyone has some suggestions they would be greatful....
thanks heaps people
Full Version: Bulls#!t Fine
according to the book you only have to stop for a yellow if you can do so safely... as long as your wheels are over the line before its red it should be good... according to the book that is
well i assume it was orange before i got to the line but i didnt notice, but i was over the other line before it was red, and there was F#$cking no one about at all, apart from jake (harolto) behind me!!!
gggrrrr wish the 5-0 would just to their job and leave me alone, they should go arrest all those lifeless kents stealing cars and stuff from cars!! GGGRRR
gggrrrr wish the 5-0 would just to their job and leave me alone, they should go arrest all those lifeless kents stealing cars and stuff from cars!! GGGRRR
what speed were you travelling at? could you have 'safely' stopped i.e. there were/weren't car behind you?
if you really think you could not have stopped safely, you should dispute the infringement.
i suggest you write an appeal letter now and send it in tomorrow to the police commisioner. more often than not, they will reject your appeal since this infringement is largely based on either recorded evidence or on the discretion of the police officer.
after which, send a request for discovery, which is in essence an obligation of govt. bodies to citizens regarding 'free' information under the commonwealth 'freedom of information act' . in this request, ask for any recording evidence of you crossing the traffic light, and thus causing a hazard to other road users. if they do have any evidence, pay up and take the points.
if they don't, prepared to get legal counsel or represent yourself.
likely scenarios:
1) you will end up paying more than 80 bucks+3 points (inclusive of court costs and legal fees)
2) if the police officer who booked you does not turn up in court (don't count on it), the fine is written off.
3) your counsel is able to plea bargain, lightening your fine. (most of the time, you just pay the fine and not take the points) but this also depends on whether you have any prior convictions or have a bad driving record.
if you do need legal counsel, pm me. i work for a fairly large legal firm which specializes in such cases.
if you really think you could not have stopped safely, you should dispute the infringement.
i suggest you write an appeal letter now and send it in tomorrow to the police commisioner. more often than not, they will reject your appeal since this infringement is largely based on either recorded evidence or on the discretion of the police officer.
after which, send a request for discovery, which is in essence an obligation of govt. bodies to citizens regarding 'free' information under the commonwealth 'freedom of information act' . in this request, ask for any recording evidence of you crossing the traffic light, and thus causing a hazard to other road users. if they do have any evidence, pay up and take the points.
if they don't, prepared to get legal counsel or represent yourself.
likely scenarios:
1) you will end up paying more than 80 bucks+3 points (inclusive of court costs and legal fees)
2) if the police officer who booked you does not turn up in court (don't count on it), the fine is written off.
3) your counsel is able to plea bargain, lightening your fine. (most of the time, you just pay the fine and not take the points) but this also depends on whether you have any prior convictions or have a bad driving record.
if you do need legal counsel, pm me. i work for a fairly large legal firm which specializes in such cases.
Its fair... i attemted to take mine to court and still got done... i was on my p's and they booked me 3pts 110 bucks for failing to obey a yellow traffic signal. amd 1 pnt for failing to display a P plate.. (plate was on the parcel shelf) and anyone that can count knows thats 4pnts and no licence... so unfortunatly theres fuck all you can do
QUOTE(sillycarpetey @ Oct 1 2006, 05:49 PM) [snapback]1280308149[/snapback]
gggrrrr wish the 5-0 would just to their job and leave me alone, they should go arrest all those lifeless kents stealing cars and stuff from cars!! GGGRRR
I could not agree more there mate!!!
QUOTE(badkarma85 @ Oct 1 2006, 06:00 PM) [snapback]1280308194[/snapback]
what speed were you travelling at? could you have 'safely' stopped i.e. there were/weren't car behind you?
if you really think you could not have stopped safely, you should dispute the infringement.
i suggest you write an appeal letter now and send it in tomorrow to the police commisioner. more often than not, they will reject your appeal since this infringement is largely based on either recorded evidence or on the discretion of the police officer.
after which, send a request for discovery, which is in essence an obligation of govt. bodies to citizens regarding 'free' information under the commonwealth 'freedom of information act' . in this request, ask for any recording evidence of you crossing the traffic light, and thus causing a hazard to other road users. if they do have any evidence, pay up and take the points.
if they don't, prepared to get legal counsel or represent yourself.
likely scenarios:
1) you will end up paying more than 80 bucks+3 points (inclusive of court costs and legal fees)
2) if the police officer who booked you does not turn up in court (don't count on it), the fine is written off.
3) your counsel is able to plea bargain, lightening your fine. (most of the time, you just pay the fine and not take the points) but this also depends on whether you have any prior convictions or have a bad driving record.
if you do need legal counsel, pm me. i work for a fairly large legal firm which specializes in such cases.
Id be going to court to dispute the situation as well!!!
yeah i was behind him, it would of been unsafe for him to stop as he was probably 2m before the line when the lights turned yellow, doing 50
then the cop doing over 60km/h with no lights on, from the middle lane turned infrount of me around the corner, with no lights on, and no warning at all (could of been dangerous if there were pedestrians) then light went green, i went, was about 2m from the cop car (where he had pulled peto over) and he swung his door open, causing me to break heavily and swerve into the on comming lane. i was abit shaken up and thinkin 'wtf' so pulled over, went upto the officer and said "WTF i just nearly hit your door" he said "i saw you comming mate you were no where near it" then i said "fair enuff whats your badge number?" then the passenger said "piss off" and rolled the window up,
good police work there by those 2 officers, oh well i got their rego and i will be making a formal complaint about both of them tomorrow. and write a letter to transport complaining about the dangerous driving.
-Jake
then the cop doing over 60km/h with no lights on, from the middle lane turned infrount of me around the corner, with no lights on, and no warning at all (could of been dangerous if there were pedestrians) then light went green, i went, was about 2m from the cop car (where he had pulled peto over) and he swung his door open, causing me to break heavily and swerve into the on comming lane. i was abit shaken up and thinkin 'wtf' so pulled over, went upto the officer and said "WTF i just nearly hit your door" he said "i saw you comming mate you were no where near it" then i said "fair enuff whats your badge number?" then the passenger said "piss off" and rolled the window up,
good police work there by those 2 officers, oh well i got their rego and i will be making a formal complaint about both of them tomorrow. and write a letter to transport complaining about the dangerous driving.
-Jake
^^^ Nice work man! Its our turn now!!!!!!!!! FUCKIN COPS!!!!!!
QUOTE(harolto @ Oct 1 2006, 06:23 PM) [snapback]1280308293[/snapback]
yeah i was behind him, it would of been unsafe for him to stop as he was probably 2m before the line when the lights turned yellow, doing 50
then the cop doing over 60km/h with no lights on, from the middle lane turned infrount of me around the corner, with no lights on, and no warning at all (could of been dangerous if there were pedestrians) then light went green, i went, was about 2m from the cop car (where he had pulled peto over) and he swung his door open, causing me to break heavily and swerve into the on comming lane. i was abit shaken up and thinkin 'wtf' so pulled over, went upto the officer and said "WTF i just nearly hit your door" he said "i saw you comming mate you were no where near it" then i said "fair enuff whats your badge number?" then the passenger said "piss off" and rolled the window up,
good police work there by those 2 officers, oh well i got their rego and i will be making a formal complaint about both of them tomorrow. and write a letter to transport complaining about the dangerous driving.
-Jake
Yeah, and I bet that if we said 'piss off' to them, we'd get raped for it!!!
Their attitudes are getting so much worse now...
i bet if you had of hit the door they would have found something to charge you with aswell.. damaging police property unsafe driving etc..
tis bad luck petey.. this is similar to what a mate of mine got done for
tis bad luck petey.. this is similar to what a mate of mine got done for
AAAGGGGHHHH this really bites the big one! i have written a letter and just dribbling the usual shit, and i am just goin to hope for the best, and if it goes to court, then so be it, im sure jakey boy will help me out and tell them what happened too!!
i swear we should protest, some of the shit ppl are getting done for is just stupid!
i swear we should protest, some of the shit ppl are getting done for is just stupid!
its up to you if you want to take it to court.. i know a good lawyer, if you want his details send me a pm.. he likes to get everything right down to the very last detail.. and might annoy you a little.. but fark he was good when i needed a lawyer 
cheers 'Nova, if its come to that ill let u know, hope not, but lets all cross our fingers... ha ha ha
Speaking of cops get this.....
Driving down Elizabeth Street inbound in VU_SS_UTE's poser mobile and we approach this cop car doing about 20 clicks. Im thinking ok so someones having a biff outside The Don they must be about to pull over....
NUP
..... i realised there is a car in front of them. Blue Datto 1000 i think thats the model, fucked paint, roof racks, greenie stickers all over it, charfing out a piston each minute through the exhaust, no headlights, park lights, functioning indicators or brake lights and swerving all over the road whilst doing 20 clicks MAX.
So what do they do, THEY PULL INTO SHELL NORTH HOBART!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT THAAAAAAA FUCK!!!!
They leave the Datto to continue on its way at 20 clicks causing serious emissions damage to the environment (so bad i had to wind the window up
).
I hold no remorse for being done twice this year and copping it on the chin, but this shit is fucking unacceptable! Pity i was that stunned they pulled over to look at the rego plate.
Driving down Elizabeth Street inbound in VU_SS_UTE's poser mobile and we approach this cop car doing about 20 clicks. Im thinking ok so someones having a biff outside The Don they must be about to pull over....
NUP
..... i realised there is a car in front of them. Blue Datto 1000 i think thats the model, fucked paint, roof racks, greenie stickers all over it, charfing out a piston each minute through the exhaust, no headlights, park lights, functioning indicators or brake lights and swerving all over the road whilst doing 20 clicks MAX.So what do they do, THEY PULL INTO SHELL NORTH HOBART!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT THAAAAAAA FUCK!!!!
They leave the Datto to continue on its way at 20 clicks causing serious emissions damage to the environment (so bad i had to wind the window up
).I hold no remorse for being done twice this year and copping it on the chin, but this shit is fucking unacceptable! Pity i was that stunned they pulled over to look at the rego plate.
yet if they see a nice well looked after car with some big wheels and a body kit they just have to pull it over and give u the shits its bullshit isnt it, it must be because they are a "hoon" or something and they like their car quick book him, they must have a police training course on how to be a stupid c#nt, im always seeing stuff like what u saw Tas180.
Thats bullshit Petey, at least you have a good alibi in haralto who saw everything. Take it to court, challenge the fine and win.
Couldn't agree more with the attitude / wrong approach to policing. I've never had an issue with the police other than being pulled over more for driving an older car.
BUT what happend to me a couple of months ago really changed my mind about them... heres what I posted on another forum, can't be stuffed typing it again:
Just can't believe how unfair things are, they apparantly don't have to show you any evidence, then if you aren't happy whats happened and write a letter to them (even though it was probably a bit strongly worded) they can just upgrade the caution / fine out of spite. So much for freedom of speech and being able to defend yourself.
So the moral of the story is if you drive an old / modified car and so much as breath the wrong way and your on their priority list to be pulled over / arse raped..... but drive a new unmodified Camry (or similar) and get away with blue murder.
*End of rant*
BUT what happend to me a couple of months ago really changed my mind about them... heres what I posted on another forum, can't be stuffed typing it again:
QUOTE
Ok... a month ago I in my Gemini heading back from a mates place. I was at a set of lights turning right, with Mr Plod waiting at the same set of lights to go straight ahead (heading in the same direction as me.)
Anyway I knew he would most probably pull me over as there wasn't much traffic around that time of the morning so I made sure I stuck right on the speed limit. (I have a GPS system in the car that gives you an exact readout of your speed, so I know I was DEFINATELY doing the speed limit.)
Anyway a bit less than a kilometre up the road I see him fly up behind me and pull me over straight away.
I was actually expecting a licence check and bretho, so I had my licence out ready.
Anyway he basically questioned me about the speed I was doing, to which I thought he was having a joke. I let him no there was no way I was speeding and pointed him to the GPS device I had on... to which he said "must be wrong because I had to do 120km's to catch up". I thought this was pretty dodgy him saying that (and will possibly look like i'm exagerating if I quote him in court).
Anyway telling him the truth didn't get me anywhere and he took my licence back to his car to write me out a caution. On presenting me with the caution I let him know I wasn't going to accept it, as he was not behind me long enough to estimate my speed and just assumed that because he had to do a claimed 120km/h, after waiting at the lights, to catch up to me really does not prove I was speading.
This is the caution:
Now as you can imagine I was majorly pissed off about it, so decided to write a letter to the police commissioner:
...which ended up making me worse off:
Not really fair, question a caution and they up it to an actual fine... but I wasn't going to accept being cautioned for something I didn't do.
Anyway I'm determined to take it to court. (At best I will win, at worse I pay the $80 plus a $50 summons fee). Just after any advice / stories from other people that have been in a similar predicament, and how you have gone in court if it went that far.
Anyway I knew he would most probably pull me over as there wasn't much traffic around that time of the morning so I made sure I stuck right on the speed limit. (I have a GPS system in the car that gives you an exact readout of your speed, so I know I was DEFINATELY doing the speed limit.)
Anyway a bit less than a kilometre up the road I see him fly up behind me and pull me over straight away.
I was actually expecting a licence check and bretho, so I had my licence out ready.
Anyway he basically questioned me about the speed I was doing, to which I thought he was having a joke. I let him no there was no way I was speeding and pointed him to the GPS device I had on... to which he said "must be wrong because I had to do 120km's to catch up". I thought this was pretty dodgy him saying that (and will possibly look like i'm exagerating if I quote him in court).
Anyway telling him the truth didn't get me anywhere and he took my licence back to his car to write me out a caution. On presenting me with the caution I let him know I wasn't going to accept it, as he was not behind me long enough to estimate my speed and just assumed that because he had to do a claimed 120km/h, after waiting at the lights, to catch up to me really does not prove I was speading.
This is the caution:
Now as you can imagine I was majorly pissed off about it, so decided to write a letter to the police commissioner:
...which ended up making me worse off:
Not really fair, question a caution and they up it to an actual fine... but I wasn't going to accept being cautioned for something I didn't do.
Anyway I'm determined to take it to court. (At best I will win, at worse I pay the $80 plus a $50 summons fee). Just after any advice / stories from other people that have been in a similar predicament, and how you have gone in court if it went that far.
Just can't believe how unfair things are, they apparantly don't have to show you any evidence, then if you aren't happy whats happened and write a letter to them (even though it was probably a bit strongly worded) they can just upgrade the caution / fine out of spite.
So much for freedom of speech and being able to defend yourself. So the moral of the story is if you drive an old / modified car and so much as breath the wrong way and your on their priority list to be pulled over / arse raped..... but drive a new unmodified Camry (or similar) and get away with blue murder.
*End of rant*
Well, I got pulled over in Old Beach this morning on the way to the shops to get them morning paper.
My front drivers side indicator was out and I've been into the auto sparky already but they are too busy (faulty wiring, not globe!) to fix it straight away.
Cop was OK about it all, older guy sucking a coffee into himself. Explained that the auto sparky was looking at the car on Friday and fixing it next week so he let me off with a warning.
Meanwhile, I notice he was sitting in his unmarked silver VZ, engine running. Hmmm.....no seatbelt, leaving a running vehicle unattended etc...
He was nice enough to me but as above, why piss around with little matters when there are crooks out there doing real damage to society.
Cheers, Greg.
P.S. $2 of dual core wire and 2 hours labour in my driveway saw the power from my side indicator being spliced into the bumper bar and viola, a working indicator!!
Oh, good luck on beating the charge. We all know Jake is a honest, upstanding member of the community with an impeccible driving record!!! He'll be perfect on your side in court!!
My front drivers side indicator was out and I've been into the auto sparky already but they are too busy (faulty wiring, not globe!) to fix it straight away.
Cop was OK about it all, older guy sucking a coffee into himself. Explained that the auto sparky was looking at the car on Friday and fixing it next week so he let me off with a warning.
Meanwhile, I notice he was sitting in his unmarked silver VZ, engine running. Hmmm.....no seatbelt, leaving a running vehicle unattended etc...
He was nice enough to me but as above, why piss around with little matters when there are crooks out there doing real damage to society.
Cheers, Greg.
P.S. $2 of dual core wire and 2 hours labour in my driveway saw the power from my side indicator being spliced into the bumper bar and viola, a working indicator!!
Oh, good luck on beating the charge. We all know Jake is a honest, upstanding member of the community with an impeccible driving record!!! He'll be perfect on your side in court!!
QUOTE(1985TGSLX @ Oct 1 2006, 10:33 PM) [snapback]1280309349[/snapback]
Couldn't agree more with the attitude / wrong approach to policing. I've never had an issue with the police other than being pulled over more for driving an older car.
BUT what happend to me a couple of months ago really changed my mind about them... heres what I posted on another forum, can't be stuffed typing it again:
Just can't believe how unfair things are, they apparantly don't have to show you any evidence, then if you aren't happy whats happened and write a letter to them (even though it was probably a bit strongly worded) they can just upgrade the caution / fine out of spite.
So much for freedom of speech and being able to defend yourself. So the moral of the story is if you drive an old / modified car and so much as breath the wrong way and your on their priority list to be pulled over / arse raped..... but drive a new unmodified Camry (or similar) and get away with blue murder.
*End of rant*
Far out man!!! I could not belive what I was reading there dude...
I would have spew'd so hard about that. I showed it to my old man and he couldnt belive it either
the coppers love me... just ask Delazy!
I leave them alone... and they leave me alone!
I leave them alone... and they leave me alone!
[quote name='harolto' date='Oct 1 2006, 05:23 PM' post='1280308293']
i said "fair enuff whats your badge number?" then the passenger said "piss off" and rolled the window up[/quote]
The beauty about that is that police officers are required by law to state their badge number when requested by a citizen.
The other good thing is that Sillycarpety has a witness.[/quote]
[quote name='1985TGSLX' date='Oct 1 2006, 09:33 PM' post='1280309349']Just can't believe how unfair things are, they apparantly don't have to show you any evidence, then if you aren't happy whats happened and write a letter to them (even though it was probably a bit strongly worded) they can just upgrade the caution / fine out of spite. So much for freedom of speech and being able to defend yourself. [/quote]
I sincerely hope you disputed the fine handed down by the Commander! Take it to court mate. No speed reading = no offence. I have been pulled over for speeding on two occasions, both times I was only verbally cautioned for speeding as they didnt have a reading to prove it. I didnt even need to ask them for a reading, they knew they didnt have one so didnt try to book me for it!
Fuckin stupid forum cant even quote properly now!
i said "fair enuff whats your badge number?" then the passenger said "piss off" and rolled the window up[/quote]
The beauty about that is that police officers are required by law to state their badge number when requested by a citizen.
The other good thing is that Sillycarpety has a witness.[/quote]
[quote name='1985TGSLX' date='Oct 1 2006, 09:33 PM' post='1280309349']Just can't believe how unfair things are, they apparantly don't have to show you any evidence, then if you aren't happy whats happened and write a letter to them (even though it was probably a bit strongly worded) they can just upgrade the caution / fine out of spite.
So much for freedom of speech and being able to defend yourself. [/quote]I sincerely hope you disputed the fine handed down by the Commander! Take it to court mate. No speed reading = no offence. I have been pulled over for speeding on two occasions, both times I was only verbally cautioned for speeding as they didnt have a reading to prove it. I didnt even need to ask them for a reading, they knew they didnt have one so didnt try to book me for it!
Fuckin stupid forum cant even quote properly now!
yeah, mum works at transport, and she said compaining to the station, and to trainsport is the way to go, stating i have done a defensive driving couse, and saying that the way the drove/acted was not defensive at all, oh well, solicitor tomorrow, then comapint on wednesday for those fuckola cops, 6 witnesses saw that they opened their door at the wrong time, and took a corner in town at 60+ where poidestrians could of been harmed.
Fg 6245 can lick my nuts for a long time,
after being abused by a few cop after the past 6months, i wont pull over for any cop out of a populated ared, with out confermation from 000.
BEam white sucks cock but im drikningn it
-JAie
Fg 6245 can lick my nuts for a long time,
after being abused by a few cop after the past 6months, i wont pull over for any cop out of a populated ared, with out confermation from 000.
BEam white sucks cock but im drikningn it
-JAie
"i would of stopped but i didnt realise it was orange untill i was just near the line"
inattentive driving maybe? not tryin to start a fight or anything but this may not work in your favour if thats the case.....
inattentive driving maybe? not tryin to start a fight or anything but this may not work in your favour if thats the case.....
Hmmm yeah cops are c#nts to people in modified cars. I got done the other day by a lovely young orange haired female cop >.< Was going along Bligh St. right to the end the po-po are always sitting near the last round a bout so I was watching my speed. Went through the round about and turned around at the end and coming back up. The officer had turned around and was now coming at me with lights on so I pulled over, She comes up to me and goes do you know you only have on P-Plate up, I was like WTF you made all that effort to turn around and caution me for not having a P-Plate up... That was in the Skyline... I only ever have one up when I'm driving the Pintara and I have never been pulled up for it... sitting next to police officers at lights have them behind me past me etc... They need some real work to do picking on stupid issues like we have seen in this post is absolutely stupid!
fark, i dont remebmer writing that up there last night :S
QUOTE(timmy_o @ Oct 2 2006, 03:37 PM) [snapback]1280311490[/snapback]
Hmmm yeah cops are c#nts to people in modified cars. I got done the other day by a lovely young orange haired female cop >.< Was going along Bligh St. right to the end the po-po are always sitting near the last round a bout so I was watching my speed. Went through the round about and turned around at the end and coming back up. The officer had turned around and was now coming at me with lights on so I pulled over, She comes up to me and goes do you know you only have on P-Plate up, I was like WTF you made all that effort to turn around and caution me for not having a P-Plate up... That was in the Skyline... I only ever have one up when I'm driving the Pintara and I have never been pulled up for it... sitting next to police officers at lights have them behind me past me etc... They need some real work to do picking on stupid issues like we have seen in this post is absolutely stupid!
How hard is it to put another plate up? If you did then there is one less reason to be pulled over. No use whinging about something that you can stop!!
yeah cops are really turning into cocky bastards n always seem 2 find a way 2 get u...
2 bad about ur fine dude, but i say fight it cause it sounds like a load of shit
2 bad about ur fine dude, but i say fight it cause it sounds like a load of shit
QUOTE(acarr87 @ Oct 2 2006, 02:39 PM) [snapback]1280311237[/snapback]
"i would of stopped but i didnt realise it was orange untill i was just near the line"
inattentive driving maybe? not tryin to start a fight or anything but this may not work in your favour if thats the case.....
yeh i was thinking about that, and that sucks balls! i guess i could try it anyway, because i reckon everyone who has driven a car/bike has at one stage gone throught an orange light, and sometimes not even know they did so, have sent a letter off today and i just hope who ever reads it got some mighty good sex the night before and lets me off lol!
Mate, just tell the 'truth' and stick with it...
How long have you had your licence? Not TOO long? Just say with your minimal driving experence (makes them think they are older and more experenced, also makes them feel good about themselves
) you didn't feel it was safe for YOU to try and attempt to stop for the light as you were so close to the intersection when the light changed.
You may also play the 'there was a car close behind you and you were unsure if they would stop in time too'.
Worked for a good mate of mine!
Hope it helps,
Todd
How long have you had your licence? Not TOO long? Just say with your minimal driving experence (makes them think they are older and more experenced, also makes them feel good about themselves
) you didn't feel it was safe for YOU to try and attempt to stop for the light as you were so close to the intersection when the light changed.You may also play the 'there was a car close behind you and you were unsure if they would stop in time too'.
Worked for a good mate of mine!
Hope it helps,
Todd
i think he has lost his license already todd might make it a bit hard to get off on the inexperience thing. just write a good stat dec and hope for the best, they might make u pay the fine but let u keep your points
might make it a bit hard to get off on the inexperience thing. just write a good stat dec and hope for the best, they might make u pay the fine but let u keep your points
i love it when cops tailgate, i tapped my brakes one time on them hahaha. got pulled over straight away and i complained.. they left without even taking any of my details or anything. wish i'd got their number. i also love the random illegal u-turns they do to chase after me sticking to the speed limit, i think next time i'll do one right back at them
i've hated traffic police since i was fined 3 weeks after writing off my car and almost another in an accident in peak hour. fuckers
i've hated traffic police since i was fined 3 weeks after writing off my car and almost another in an accident in peak hour. fuckers
Heres a link for yoos http://www.magistratescourt.tas.gov.au/lists/Hobart_Criminal don't feel lonely fellas, you fit the polices discription of 'undesireable person' and are extremely profitable. Most of you should be fairly aware of the 'local' situation anyway, look up Tasmainian Times for some idea...
Even if its just the delay before you get some points back, it is usually worth disputing and the more times this happens brings pressure from the courts to bear on the cops, and makes them(the courts) more sympathitic to you.
If you want to win use the link above and go and watch check the courts out, we are dealing with people here and judges have different personalities. Pick the one you would prefer and see what washes with him, then when your case comes up if it is not with the right one adjourn.
Most importantly, get a statement from any witness's IMMEDIATELY 'cos a fresh memory carries more weight, get it witnessed by JC, this also includes your own statement. From now on it has nothing to do with the police any correspondance with them is via a Lawyer (search llllaaaawwwwyyyeeerrr Duncan kerr for prices and hold them to it) Then its presentation presentation, sorry fellas hipsters are not good!
Alternately you could chuck on some Greens stickers.
Christ!! Check this out!!
Any relation Rainey?
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WILSON, Louise Victoria 24238/2005 PLE HBT 7 10:00 AM
1 count of Exceed speed limit - (Speed-limit sign).
1 WILSON, Louise Victoria 3012/2002 MEN HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
3 WILSON, Louise Victoria 3123/2002 MEN HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
6 WILSON, Louise Victoria 13718/2000 MEN HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
5 WILSON, Louise Victoria 13543/2000 MEN HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
7 WILSON, Louise Victoria 65195/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
8 WILSON, Louise Victoria 65221/2001 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
9 WILSON, Louise Victoria 65244/2001 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
10 WILSON, Louise Victoria 65247/2001 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
11 WILSON, Louise Victoria 65281/2001 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
12 WILSON, Louise Victoria 65314/2001 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
13 WILSON, Louise Victoria 66050/2001 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
14 WILSON, Louise Victoria 66849/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
15 WILSON, Louise Victoria 67144/2001 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
16 WILSON, Louise Victoria 67686/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
30 WILSON, Louise Victoria 72894/1999 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
31 WILSON, Louise Victoria 91521/2001 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
4 WILSON, Louise Victoria 12965/2000 MEN HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
2 WILSON, Louise Victoria 3120/2002 MEN HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
17 WILSON, Louise Victoria 68321/2001 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
18 WILSON, Louise Victoria 69205/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
19 WILSON, Louise Victoria 69515/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
20 WILSON, Louise Victoria 70568/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
21 WILSON, Louise Victoria 71061/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
22 WILSON, Louise Victoria 71254/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
23 WILSON, Louise Victoria 71979/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
24 WILSON, Louise Victoria 71987/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
25 WILSON, Louise Victoria 72023/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
26 WILSON, Louise Victoria 72027/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
29 WILSON, Louise Victoria 72724/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
28 WILSON, Louise Victoria 72127/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
27 WILSON, Louise Victoria 72077/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
1 count of Exceed speed limit - (Speed-limit sign).
1 WILSON, Louise Victoria 3012/2002 MEN HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
3 WILSON, Louise Victoria 3123/2002 MEN HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
6 WILSON, Louise Victoria 13718/2000 MEN HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
5 WILSON, Louise Victoria 13543/2000 MEN HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
7 WILSON, Louise Victoria 65195/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
8 WILSON, Louise Victoria 65221/2001 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
9 WILSON, Louise Victoria 65244/2001 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
10 WILSON, Louise Victoria 65247/2001 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
11 WILSON, Louise Victoria 65281/2001 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
12 WILSON, Louise Victoria 65314/2001 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
13 WILSON, Louise Victoria 66050/2001 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
14 WILSON, Louise Victoria 66849/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
15 WILSON, Louise Victoria 67144/2001 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
16 WILSON, Louise Victoria 67686/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
30 WILSON, Louise Victoria 72894/1999 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
31 WILSON, Louise Victoria 91521/2001 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
4 WILSON, Louise Victoria 12965/2000 MEN HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
2 WILSON, Louise Victoria 3120/2002 MEN HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
17 WILSON, Louise Victoria 68321/2001 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
18 WILSON, Louise Victoria 69205/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
19 WILSON, Louise Victoria 69515/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
20 WILSON, Louise Victoria 70568/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
21 WILSON, Louise Victoria 71061/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
22 WILSON, Louise Victoria 71254/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
23 WILSON, Louise Victoria 71979/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
24 WILSON, Louise Victoria 71987/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
25 WILSON, Louise Victoria 72023/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
26 WILSON, Louise Victoria 72027/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
29 WILSON, Louise Victoria 72724/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
28 WILSON, Louise Victoria 72127/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
27 WILSON, Louise Victoria 72077/2000 HRG HBT 3 02:15 PM
1 count of Failure to pay fines and costs
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25 RAINBIRD, Carmen Vanessa 24050/2005 PLE HBT 7 10:00 AM
1 count of Exceed speed limit (Speed-limit sign)
182 RAINBIRD, Jamie 24184/2005 PLE HBT 7 10:00 AM
1 count of Exceed speed-limit in a built up area.
1 count of Exceed speed limit (Speed-limit sign)
182 RAINBIRD, Jamie 24184/2005 PLE HBT 7 10:00 AM
1 count of Exceed speed-limit in a built up area.
Any relation Rainey?
has anyone noticed cops parking their cars in the middle of the street all the time for no apparent reason? i was out saturday night and the amount of times they just stop in the middle of the road its like they do it just because they can. they even leave the car unattended for ages with doors open and lights going, engine running and they dont seem to be actually doing anything, i just seen this happen about 5 times in one night and they never use their bloody indicators, they should still obide by the law if they are going to inforce it on others the stinky pig fuckers. no wonder no one likes them.
I wonder if this has anything to do with JDS taking over the old Car Doctor premises...
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1. H21766/06 M J Rowlands -V- Brendden Dimsey T/as Car Doctor
my mate lost his licence for speeding over a speed hump! down at clifton beach where i have never ever! seen a cop b4 and i lived there for about 16 years! and i was in the middle of no were heading to bicheno and got pulled over for unrego car that was only 1 day out of rego and got fined $360! 
Yeah the popo love car enthusiasts!!
I remember once i was working on my car (putting carpet in) on the side of road outside my place in west hobart and i saw this cop car come up the street. My street is tiny and the only other time i've seen cops up there was when i called them cos my car got stolen. Anyway they cruise up the road and pull up next to this totally trashed commodore which is always parked there. They stuff around for five minutes so i go back to work. Anyway i hear them start up and roll down the street but i don't hear them go past. i pull my head out from under the dash and this hell sexy blonde cop is grinning at me through the drivers side window. I'm thinking oh no there going to book me for having tools and carpet all over the foot path, but she just waves at me then they drive off!!!
I just couldn't believe how fine that cop was!! What a waste!
Cerby
I remember once i was working on my car (putting carpet in) on the side of road outside my place in west hobart and i saw this cop car come up the street. My street is tiny and the only other time i've seen cops up there was when i called them cos my car got stolen. Anyway they cruise up the road and pull up next to this totally trashed commodore which is always parked there. They stuff around for five minutes so i go back to work. Anyway i hear them start up and roll down the street but i don't hear them go past. i pull my head out from under the dash and this hell sexy blonde cop is grinning at me through the drivers side window. I'm thinking oh no there going to book me for having tools and carpet all over the foot path, but she just waves at me then they drive off!!!
I just couldn't believe how fine that cop was!! What a waste!
Cerby
QUOTE(TE72-TURBO @ Oct 4 2006, 10:47 PM) [snapback]1280323555[/snapback]
has anyone noticed cops parking their cars in the middle of the street all the time for no apparent reason? i was out saturday night and the amount of times they just stop in the middle of the road its like they do it just because they can. they even leave the car unattended for ages with doors open and lights going, engine running and they dont seem to be actually doing anything, i just seen this happen about 5 times in one night and they never use their bloody indicators, they should still obide by the law if they are going to inforce it on others the stinky pig fuckers. no wonder no one likes them.
Yeah man, I had that happen to me outside Iso...
They just stopped, for NO reason... And they were still sitting in their car! I have no horn, so I have the loud pedal a few hard and long presses and they moved finally
rice cutter is right
the best bet is to have no direct contact with the police it should all be done via lawyer.
Today i was going along the brooker doing the speed limit and i kept getting orange lights.
i don't care what they say i didn't feel confident braking that hard to avoid it so i accelerated and got thru b4 it turned red.
the best bet is to have no direct contact with the police it should all be done via lawyer.
Today i was going along the brooker doing the speed limit and i kept getting orange lights.
i don't care what they say i didn't feel confident braking that hard to avoid it so i accelerated and got thru b4 it turned red.
Hmmmm I could make a few informed comments but will keep my thoughts to myself.... for now at least
QUOTE(VTEC_YO @ Oct 9 2006, 06:47 PM) [snapback]1280339680[/snapback]
Hmmmm I could make a few informed comments but will keep my thoughts to myself.... for now at least
Please share them with us Ben. Would be interesting to hear the other side of the story.
^ I agree, might as well tell us now that you have us interested!
yer same think happend to me. Bit i couldnt get off it.
Pricks. Insteed of worring about little yellow light fines. get off there ass and do somethink with the c%#ts tha are steeling the cars and braking into people house's.
The Law. YER RIGHT
Pricks. Insteed of worring about little yellow light fines. get off there ass and do somethink with the c%#ts tha are steeling the cars and braking into people house's.
The Law. YER RIGHT
QUOTE(VTEC_YO @ Oct 9 2006, 06:47 PM) [snapback]1280339680[/snapback]
Hmmmm I could make a few informed comments but will keep my thoughts to myself.... for now at least
please share with us what you think, i would love to know what the G O is...we all know how everyone feels on here but i think i speak for eveyone when i say we would like to know the other side of the story.....and i still think the police should spend a bit more time and money on cracking down on car thieves
QUOTE(sillycarpetey @ Oct 9 2006, 08:06 PM) [snapback]1280339945[/snapback]
i still think the police should spend a bit more time and money on cracking down on car thieves
I actually questioned a couple of cops who broke up a CKCP meet a while back why they were harrassing us instead of putting their resources to better use catching those who sell drugs to kids and rape innocent women. Needless to say I didnt get a direct answer.
I have a mate who is a cop up North He said you're all a bunch of whingeing 'kents', and i told him all cops are fags (or at least him) and im going to beat the shit out of him next time i see him?
As for running lights, everyone runs reds down here
, prolly the biggest thing i noticed from moving from north, as its rare to see anyone do it up there, so I dunno what they would worry about oranges for.
As for running lights, everyone runs reds down here
, prolly the biggest thing i noticed from moving from north, as its rare to see anyone do it up there, so I dunno what they would worry about oranges for.
QUOTE(CAMEL @ Oct 9 2006, 11:48 PM) [snapback]1280340935[/snapback]
I have a mate who is a cop up North He said you're all a bunch of whingeing 'kents', and i told him all cops are fags (or at least him) and im going to beat the shit out of him next time i see him?
As for running lights, everyone runs reds down here
, prolly the biggest thing i noticed from moving from north, as its rare to see anyone do it up there, so I dunno what they would worry about oranges for.drink the home brews again mate??
QUOTE(delazy @ Oct 9 2006, 11:54 PM) [snapback]1280340941[/snapback]
drink the home brews again mate??
Mmmm homebrew. Mine will be ready to drink soon!
QUOTE(delazy @ Oct 9 2006, 11:54 PM) [snapback]1280340941[/snapback]
drink the home brews again mate??
Nope.
hmmmm, i guess if the 5-0 "dislike" us "car enthusiasts" as much as we "dislike" them, then its no wonder we are getting pulled up and fined so often, i just think its getting way out of hand for no reason! ggrr....
just remebered once, i was sitting at BP clarence street (just bought a drink etc) was with one other car, and the po-po 5-0 came in and searched both our cars and patted all of us down...wouldnt tell us why and there wasnt any reason for it to happen, its shit like this that pisses me off and makes me feel violated!
just remebered once, i was sitting at BP clarence street (just bought a drink etc) was with one other car, and the po-po 5-0 came in and searched both our cars and patted all of us down...wouldnt tell us why and there wasnt any reason for it to happen, its shit like this that pisses me off and makes me feel violated!
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